Firefly Wars , battle of Serenity - What Period is it like ?

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FARSCAPEPKWARS

Monday, January 10, 2005 1:03 AM

Ok, we get a few descriptions and hints about the Big War in Firefly but what Time or Historical War do you think this is similar to ?
There are also some nice footage of flashbacks in the show, such as Zoe and Mal protecting their friend in 'The Message' and Mal n Zoe fighting the Alliance in the first episode, we also get many other clues about the war, there is talk on the Alliance and a little bit more in the DVD extras. So from what you've all watched what war do you think its like.

World War One ? The American Revolutionary Period aprox 1781, the Spanish Civil War ? The German Wars of Unification ? The American Civil War ? The Irish war against the British Empire ? The US in Vietnam ? Crimean war , Napoleonic Wars, The USA Conflict in Kosovo the Balkans? Russian Civil War....

...what war is it similar to ?

Napoleon war

Kosovo war

Rebels and Redcoats

JAYNEZTOWN

Monday, January 10, 2005 1:35 AM

kind of hard to say, but it seems similar to many

ECGORDON

Monday, January 10, 2005 2:17 AM

More of a combination of the American Revolutionary War and Civil War is the impression I got.

wo men ren ran zai fei xing.

RAT

Monday, January 10, 2005 2:38 AM

The War Between the States!(civil war)

MONTANAGIRL

Monday, January 10, 2005 3:38 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Rat:
The War Between the States!(civil war)

Don't you mean the War of Northern Aggression?

(My brother went to college in Carolina and that's how it was referred to by the guys in his frat.) And yes, I concur with reference to the above question.

Packer fans welcome.
All others tolerated.

RAT

Monday, January 10, 2005 4:16 AM

The War Between the States,
The War of Northern Aggression,

It's all Good!!

TIGER

Monday, January 10, 2005 4:29 AM

The war in the Firefly verse is definitely most similar to the American civil war, with two important differences:

1. It doesn't appear that slavery is unique to one side or the other in the conflict, nor that it had anything to do with the war.

2. In Firefly, the purpose of the war was to forcibly create an Alliance that didn't exist before, whereas the purpose of the ACW was to forcibly preserve a union that already existed.

DIRTYBROWNCOAT

Monday, January 10, 2005 4:37 AM

I seem to remember Joss mentioning Vietnam at some point.

Simon: You...you came for us.
Mal: You're on my crew.
Simon: Right. I guess I just didn't...you don't even like me.
Mal: You're on my crew. Why we still talking about this?
-Safe

TIGER

Monday, January 10, 2005 4:43 AM

Joss has said that Firefly was partially inspired by the civil war historical novel "Killer Angels". A great read, and you can see many similarities between the poor bastards that lost the war in both.

JAYNEZTOWN

Monday, January 10, 2005 6:39 AM

No doubt we have two very strong influences on the War-topic, the manner, the dress, weaponary on the worlds and guns,
one War being the American war of Independence and the other the US civil war

However their is also something that just kinda smells of colonialism, like when the Europeans went looking for land or when the British went to Australia and the Native Americans or Aboriginal people got a really bad deal. The dress, and settings are very good on the show, it may be somewhat inspired from other areas yet the war, the manner of battle, and weapons seem to point to the US civil War.

http://www.overlandtooz.com/diary-australia-topend.htm
http://www.mavericks.net.au/

There may of course be other inspirations such the Vietnam battles, or others like when the French Empire tried to expand into other areas such as N.Africa and Indo-China, or when the Russian-Soviets set up their USSR Empire. The Border world's or Independant world might be places like Latvia, Georgia, Chechnya, Taliban's Afghanistan ( which got support from the USA ), Estonia or Siberia. Except this time the French-Empire or the Soviet Iron Curtain remained
all other nations and places fell under the one Rulership.....and this time there was no USA to put pressure on the Soviets. In the Core of this Empire the folks in Moscow are very rich and looked after, but out on the borders near Afghanistan and Chechnya...it seems more like the Reavers are at work here.

http://encarta.msn.com/media_461540279_761553017_-1_1/Union_of_Soviet_
Socialist_Republics.html

http://www.wwnorton.com/college/history/ralph/resource/sovietun.htm

Unlike the Fall of the Russian Soviet Empire, this time the Union remained and the independants were said to be crushed

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