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So..5 people are dead as a result of Chumps stunts to avoid prosecution and litigations

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Friday, January 15, 2021 2:39 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Did Trump tell people to break into the building? Or even walk thru an open door?

There's a difference between "to" and "into". Since you don't get that, you fail basic English. Are you SURE you're American?

SECOND: It is simple: Trump said he won the election, but 50 states and 60 court cases say he did not. Yet he keeps insisting his White House was stolen (You've heard of it: "Stop the Steal") and he must recover his place. He repeats this falsehood frequently. His voters, the ones who believe his falsehood, intend to recover the stolen property for him. blah blah blah ...

SIGNY: What YOU THINK people "intended" is conjecture. Some of them may have been provocateurs. Some of them may have been carried away with the moment, like b that little old lady with the American flag.

Even if true, is Trump responsible for somebody's intentions? ESPECIALLY IF HE HAS GIVEN THEM EXPLICIT INSTRUCTIONS OTHERWISE?

You're working mighty hard to make this into something it wasn't. And as far as I'm concerned, you're the deluded one.[

SECONDRATE: Did you miss the part about Trump saying the election was stolen? He says it all day.



So what?

I happen to think he may be right. I think there needs to be a serious investigation into the vote, and recommendations on how to make it more transparent and secure. All of the "decisions" to accept the results were hasty, politically motivated, and done without investigation.

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People who voted for Trump have killed to recover what was stolen from Trump.
And how is this on Trump? Did he not EXPLICITLY tell the crowd to be peaceful?

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Trump is exactly the same as this crazy lady accusing somebody of stealing a phone that wasn't stolen: Police arrest L.A.-area woman who falsely accused Black teen of stealing her phone at NYC hotel; lawyer says she’s ’emotionally unwell’
But the police only charged her AFTER an investigation.

The rest of your post is just more blah blah blah... you must have a lot of cow manure in Texas, because it's coming out of your mouth.



Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

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Friday, January 15, 2021 3:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

So what?

I happen to think he may be right. I think there needs to be a serious investigation into the vote, and recommendations on how to make it more transparent and secure. All of the "decisions" to accept the results were hasty, politically motivated, and done without investigation.

You are repeating Trump's lies, Signym. The votes counts are over. The recounts are over. The court cases are over. It is over no matter what Trump says because there are deadlines set by law, not by Trump.

Inauguration will not move from January 20th and the winner was not Trump. Trump is starting a war. There will be more deaths if Trump continues beating the war drums with his Stop the Steal speeches.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, January 15, 2021 3:40 AM

Quote:

SIGNYM:

So what?

I happen to think he may be right. I think there needs to be a serious investigation into the vote, and recommendations on how to make it more transparent and secure. All of the "decisions" to accept the results were hasty, politically motivated, and done without investigation.


SECONDRATE: You are repeating Trump's lies, Signym. The votes counts are over. The recounts are over.

if you separate the ballot from it's outer envelope, and throw the envelopes away, that's throwing away the only evidence of the vote's legitimacy.


I know about chain of custody, I've been involved in multmillion dollar lawsuits ... the kind where the litigating attorneys bring their photocopier and photocopy every scrap of relevant paper that they can find (took 5 days) saved your the lab with questionnaires, and subject our analytical process to audit samples, and scour our email server for anything that may help their case.

What was done was a whitewashing. Our vote deserves better, don't you think?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

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Friday, January 15, 2021 3:41 AM


If votes are data, then you should know there's a difference between verifying data - the lowest level of scrutiny, which is what's been done in a very, very few select cases - and validating data, which is the highest level of scrutiny, which has never been officially done.

You know, the CalTech/ MIT Vote Project has been calling for vote validation for YEARS, specifically through a thorough statistical analysis of the votes.

Is SignyM repeating Vote Project lies?





If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

How about you? Are you any better than a republican?

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Friday, January 15, 2021 3:50 AM



BTW, there's been a lot of mind-reading going on about what motivates anybody, from the mind-reading in this thread title, to the mind-reading about the rioters - that they're white supremacists.

If they ARE white supremacists, it's not so threatening that the NYC Jewish press is alarmed:
Planned Violent Protests by Far Right Groups Against Inauguration Should Not Panic US Jewish Community, Say Experts
https://www.algemeiner.com/2021/01/14/planned-violent-protests-by-far-
right-groups-against-inauguration-should-not-panic-us-jewish-community-say-experts
/

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Friday, January 15, 2021 4:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
if you separate the ballot from it's outer envelope, and throw the envelopes away, that's throwing away the only evidence of the vote's legitimacy. . . .

What was done was a whitewashing. Our vote deserves better, don't you think?

It is too late to do better, Signym, but it is never too late to do worse: When Lincoln traveled to his first Inauguration, he changed trains to confuse assassins. Biden changed his plan to travel by train to his Inauguration because of assassination threats. Signym, all your talk about voting illegitimacy is a justification to murder Biden, since he cannot prove he won. Stop you goddamn nonsense, Signym.

1) On the eve of his first inauguration, President Lincoln snuck into Washington at night, evading the would-be assassins who waited for him in Baltimore
www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-unsuccessful-plot-to-kill-abraham-l
incoln-2013956
/

2) Biden forgoing Amtrak trip to Washington over security fears
https://apnews.com/article/biden-inauguration-train-security-ba7bcefad
3a65bf9432e9178633baadd




The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, January 15, 2021 5:00 AM


Find any quotes of Signy calling for assassination? Well ... no. Those quotes are YOUR territory.

Meanwhile, you post more mind-reading as a representative of our infamous group of mind-reading failures.



Also, I must highlight you for posting this:

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Biden ... cannot prove he won.



If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

How about you? Are you any better than a republican?

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Friday, January 15, 2021 5:56 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Find any quotes of Signy calling for assassination? Well ... no. Those quotes are YOUR territory.

Meanwhile, you post more mind-reading as a representative of our infamous group of mind-reading failures.

Also, I must highlight you for posting this:
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Biden ... cannot prove he won.

1kiki, what the fuck are you talking about? Why did you write "Signym calling for assassination"? There are people I know who do have the fantasy. Where I'm from, there is plenty of veiled talk of Biden being illegitimate, a tyrant, not worthy of the White House, a threat to Democracy, secretly destroying Capitalism, openly ruining the oil and gas industry for non-existent climate change, a Communist, a criminal, and on and on. Left unsaid by these knuckleheads is the word "assassinate" for the realistic reason that none of these Trumptards are capable of anything more violent than beating their wives. They'd be laughed at if they openly talked about assassination. But I don't know every Trumptard. There might be some more capable Trumptards, much like in the case of the assassination plot against Lincoln in Baltimore. Trump's talk about "Stop the Steal" can motivate an assassination plot. If Trump keeps pressing that button, somebody might assassinate Biden.

Read the article, 1kiki: Plot to Kill Lincoln
www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-unsuccessful-plot-to-kill-abraham-l
incoln-2013956
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, January 15, 2021 6:28 AM


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Signym, all your talk about voting illegitimacy is a justification to murder Biden
... see the implication there? Sure you do. Can you say LIE? Sure you can.

So, were all your threats against Trump real? A justification to murder?

Hmmm.

Good question.

If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

Are you better than a stupid republican?

Good question.

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Friday, January 15, 2021 7:17 AM

Biden* didn't win.


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