So..5 people are dead as a result of Chumps stunts to avoid prosecution and litigations
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Quote:I don't think you know what it means.
Originally posted by THG:Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Is there a single person in this country surprised by this behavior anymore? The people storming the Capitol and the people defending it are the same people. Cops are the backbone of right wing militia movements. The police must be abolished.
https://twitter.com/_SecondThought/status/1346923120217780226?cn=Zmxle
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Sure there are plenty of bad cops but stating the police must be abolished is without doubt, the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I hope you have critical thinking skills and they left you for a moment when you wrote this. It's easy to find fault. It's much harder to see something for what it is. Then act in a thought out way. In this case fix what's wrong with law enforcement in this country.
That said, you need to look at as much footage as you can. You'll see law enforcement doing their stand up best against insurmountable odds trying to protect the capital. Not all, but most.
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Originally posted by reaverfan:Quote:Unlike you, English is my first language. Your inability to use reason and logic isn't my fault, Russian troll.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Did you READ the articles that you linked?
Apparently not!
Please re-read them. They don't say what you claim. (as usual)
It's the result of your low IQ.
Funny, I thought the titles of the articles reaver posted said what he was saying. Perhaps signym it is you who should read them again. I am declaring this area a no bullshit zone. I'm afraid you'll have to leave comrade.
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Quote:The article does not support the headline. But the M$M knows that many people don't read past the headline.
Originally posted by THG:Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:Quote:Unlike you, English is my first language. Your inability to use reason and logic isn't my fault, Russian troll.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Did you READ the articles that you linked?
Apparently not!
Please re-read them. They don't say what you claim. (as usual)
It's the result of your low IQ.
Funny, I thought the titles of the articles reaver posted said what he was saying. Perhaps signym it is you who should read them again. I am declaring this area a no bullshit zone. I'm afraid you'll have to leave comrade.
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This isn't the first, second, or even tenth time that the headline... or a poster's claim... wasn't supported by the actual text of the article. How many times have KIKI and I pointed out the actual content of an article that contradicted a claim?
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Quote:www.businessinsider.com/trump-attempted-coup-federal-law-enforcement-c
Originally posted by SignyM:
The article does not support the headline. But the M$M knows that many people don't read past the headline
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'Today I am briefing my government that we believe with a reasonable level of certainty that Donald Trump attempted a coup'
One NATO source set the stage, using terms more commonly used to describe unrest in developing countries.
"The defeated president gives a speech to a group of supporters where he tells them he was robbed of the election, denounces his own administration's members and party as traitors, and tells his supporters to storm the building where the voting is being held," the NATO intelligence official said.
"The supporters, many dressed in military attire and waving revolutionary-style flags, then storm the building where the federal law-enforcement agencies controlled by the current president do not establish a security cordon, and the protesters quickly overwhelm the last line of police.
"The president then makes a public statement to the supporters attacking the Capitol that he loves them but doesn't really tell them to stop," the official said. "Today I am briefing my government that we believe with a reasonable level of certainty that Donald Trump attempted a coup that failed when the system did not buckle.
"I can't believe this happened."
A law-enforcement official who trains with US forces believes someone interfered with the proper deployment of officers around Congress
The French police official said they believed that an investigation would find that someone interfered with the deployment of additional federal law-enforcement officials on the perimeter of the Capitol complex; the official has direct knowledge of the proper procedures for security of the facility.
The security of Congress is entrusted to the US Capitol Police, a federal agency that answers to Congress.
It is routine for the Capitol Police to coordinate with the federal Secret Service and the Park Police and local police in Washington, DC, before large demonstrations. The National Guard, commanded by the Department of Defense, is often on standby too.
On Wednesday, however, that coordination was late or absent.
'It's obvious that large parts of any successful plan were just ignored'
"You cannot tell me I don't know what they should have done. I can fly to Washington tomorrow and do that job, just as any police official in Washington can fly to Paris and do mine," the official said. The official directs public security in a central Paris police district filled with government buildings and tourist sites.
"These are not subtle principles" for managing demonstrations, "and they transfer to every situation," the official said. "This is why we train alongside the US federal law enforcement to handle these very matters, and it's obvious that large parts of any successful plan were just ignored."
Much more at https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-attempted-coup-federal-law-enfor
cement-capitol-police-2021-1
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Trump pressured Pence to engineer a coup, then put the VP in danger, source says
President Donald Trump and top White House officials did little to check in on Vice President Mike Pence while he and members of his family were inside the US Capitol when Trump-backed rioters stormed the halls of Congress on Wednesday, a source close to the vice president tells CNN.
Pence was joined by his wife Karen Pence, daughter Charlotte and brother, Rep. Greg Pence, R-Indiana, for the ceremonial counting of the electoral votes in Congress Wednesday. Several of the violent Trump supporters who were rampaging the US Capitol were heard screaming "where's Mike Pence," the source said, frightening the vice president and his family.
Yet, the President and his top aides barely lifted a finger to check in on Pence to make sure he and his family were unharmed, the source added. "Was he concerned at all that an angry mob that he commanded to march on the Capitol might injure the vice president or his family?" the source asked.
The White House did not respond on the record to a CNN request for comment.
People close to the vice president now believe he is being set up as a "scapegoat" to shoulder the blame inside Trump-world after Pence refused to buckle to the President's demands to engineer a procedural coup that would keep Trump in power.
On Tuesday, Pence came under intense pressure from Trump to toss out the election results during a meeting that lasted hours in the Oval Office. The vice president's chief of staff, Marc Short, was banned by Trump from entering the West Wing, the source said, as the President repeatedly warned with "thinly veiled threats" to Pence that he would suffer major political consequences if he refused to cooperate.
"The message was pretty clear," the source said.
The events Wednesday have left some aides to the vice president feeling Pence was betrayed by Trump as well as White House chief of staff Mark Meadows and the President's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani.
"Rudy, Meadows and their teams have been trying to set up the vice president to take the fall as opposed to admitting they laid out false hope in all of this," the source said.
"Trump just can't admit defeat and wants a scapegoat," the source added.
On Thursday, Charlotte Pence Bond, the vice president's daughter who had been at the US Capitol with him, tweeted her congratulations to President-elect Joe Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala Harris.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/07/politics/trump-pence-riot/index.html
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Quote:Except that's not what happened. Trump did not tell his supporters to storm ANY building, so this is just NATO bloviating.
SIGNYM:
The article does not support the headline. But the M$M knows that many people don't read past the headline.
SECOND www.businessinsider.com/trump-attempted-coup-federal-law-enforcement-c
apitol-police-2021-1
'Today I am briefing my government that we believe with a reasonable level of certainty that Donald Trump attempted a coup'
One NATO source set the stage, using terms more commonly used to describe unrest in developing countries.
"The defeated president gives a speech to a group of supporters where he tells them he was robbed of the election, denounces his own administration's members and party as traitors, and tells his supporters to storm the building where the voting is being held," the NATO intelligence official said.
There is no quote that you can find to back up this claim, so you kinda proved my point.
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Quote:Are you sure? Trump tweeted this just a minute before the Capitol Building riot started:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Except that's not what happened. Trump did not tell his supporters to storm ANY building, so this is just NATO bloviating.
There is no quote that you can find to back up this claim, so you kinda proved my point.
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. USA demands the truth!
1:24 PM · Jan 6, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1346900434540240897
Twitter marked that as: This claim of election fraud is disputed, and this Tweet can’t be replied to, Retweeted, or liked due to a risk of violence
Trump was telling the Capitol Building rioters to do what "Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution". Guess what happened next, Signym? It was on TV. The rioters stopped the counting of votes, which Mike Pence had refused to do for Trump.
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Why do you have to keep putting words in someone's mouth to make a point?
Maybe because you don't have a point to make.
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Quote:The words came out of Trump's mouth as reported by Fox News:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Why do you have to keep putting words in someone's mouth to make a point?
Maybe because you don't have a point to make.
Quote:https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-never-concede-pressures-pence-e
"We are supposed to protect our country and support our Constitution," Trump said. "States want to revote. The states got defrauded, they were given false information and now they want it back."
He added: "All Pence has to do is send it back to the states…and we become president, and you are the happiest people."
Trump said that Pence acting "doesn’t take courage," but "what takes courage is to do nothing."
"And then we’re stuck with a president who lost the election by a lot, and we have to live with that for the next four years," Trump said, referring to his Democratic rival Joe Biden. "We’re not going to let that happen."
The president, in recent hours, has increasingly put pressure on Pence to intervene during the joint session, tweeting early Wednesday: "Do it Mike, this is a time for extreme courage!"
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When Mike Pence failed to stop the vote, the rioters showed their courage by stopping the vote. "We’re not going to let that happen," said Trump by which he meant not letting the votes be counted for Biden.
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By Thursday, Pence appeared to have become the target of bizarre attacks by Trump supporters that are typically reserved for Democrats and celebrities.
Tom Groves, a civil engineer from California, said he believed that Pence was a pedophile and member of the so-called deep state, a common accusation QAnon supporters make without evidence or reason. Trump, he said, had offered Pence a second chance to mend his ways for the unfounded and unsupported transgressions, and Pence had, in return, stabbed his boss in the back.
"It's my own opinion that he is deep state," Groves said, later adding that he made his way to the top of the Capitol steps Wednesday. "I'm critical of everything I hear, but from a lot of sources I've heard that."
Pence was at the center of supporters' ire Thursday.
Indeed, it was his announcement, many Trump supporters said, that changed the tenor of the protest. It appears that many got the news after they were given their marching orders to Capitol Hill by Trump, who said they should go to pressure Congress as it counted the electors.
"Because you'll never take back our country with weakness," he told them Wednesday. "You have to show strength, and you have to be strong."
Sharmane and Colleen, Trump supporters who asked that their last names not be used for fear of the backlash they might get for having attended the protest, drove to Washington from South Florida. They said there was an immediate shift in tone in the crowd when the news came out about Pence's decision. A demonstration in support of Trump turned terrifying as "patriots" became ferocious and angry about what they perceived as a double cross, they said.
They said they were pushed and jostled toward the steps of the Capitol. When they tried to leave before curfew, they were unable to get a taxi or a rideshare back to their hotel in Arlington, Virginia, and they were forced to return on foot — turning a 15-minute drive into an hourslong hike.
"I think you had a group of pissed-off patriots," Colleen said. "They just couldn't take it anymore. I think these pissed-off patriotic Americans, Republicans and Democrats, came up here to support Trump and then the Pence news came in? No, sir. Nope. No, sir."
Many Trump supporters maintained that there was rampant election fraud, and they claimed that Wednesday's chaos, which some lawmakers and commentators called an attempted coup or insurrection, was an attempt to hold the line against the downfall of American democracy, the destruction of Christian values and the rise of communism. Their belief in election fraud and the threat of the conspiracies is held deeply, even though there is no evidence for any of them.
More at https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/dejected-trump-supporters-leave-w
ashington-create-new-theories-capitol-violence-n1253407
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