Assange arrested
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UK judge denies US request to extradite Julian Assange
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/04/uk/julian-assange-extradition-wikil
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Trump should pardon Assange.
The first draft of anything is shit. :)
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A British judge denied bail on Wednesday for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, after she rejected a US request on Monday to extradite him to America.
Judge Vanessa Baraitser said in her Wednesday ruling that "there are substantial grounds for believing that if Mr. Assange is released today he would fail to surrender to court and face the appeal proceedings."
The US said it would appeal against the decision on Monday and asked for Assange to be remanded in custody while that process was ongoing. US prosecutors had argued on Wednesday that Assange had already shown he was "capable of going to extraordinary lengths to avoid extradition," noting his seven-year stay inside a Ecuadorian embassy in London.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/06/uk/julian-assange-bail-denied-gbr-intl/
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Releasing this video caused most of Assange's legal troubles.
WikiLeaks video: 'Collateral murder' in Iraq
WikiLeaks, a website that publishes anonymously sourced documents, has released a video showing what apparently is a US military helicopter firing at unarmed civilians in Iraq. WikiLeaks said the footage, filmed from a helicopter cockpit, shows a missile strike and shooting on a square in a Baghdad neighbourhood in July 2007. The website said 12 civilians were killed in the attack, including two journalists, Namir Nour El Deen and Saeed Chmagh, who worked for the Reuters news agency. This is the full, unedited version of the footage.
An in-depth analysis of a leaked military video showing a US army helicopter firing on Iraqis.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:At the very beginning of this thread, I posted
Originally posted by second:
A British judge denied bail on Wednesday for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, after she rejected a US request on Monday to extradite him to America.
Judge Vanessa Baraitser said in her Wednesday ruling that "there are substantial grounds for believing that if Mr. Assange is released today he would fail to surrender to court and face the appeal proceedings."
The US said it would appeal against the decision on Monday and asked for Assange to be remanded in custody while that process was ongoing. US prosecutors had argued on Wednesday that Assange had already shown he was "capable of going to extraordinary lengths to avoid extradition," noting his seven-year stay inside a Ecuadorian embassy in London.
Releasing this video caused most of Assange's legal troubles.
WikiLeaks, a website that publishes anonymously sourced documents, has released a video showing what apparently is a US military helicopter firing at unarmed civilians in Iraq. WikiLeaks said the footage, filmed from a helicopter cockpit, shows a missile strike and shooting on a square in a Baghdad neighbourhood in July 2007. The website said 12 civilians were killed in the attack, including two journalists, Namir Nour El Deen and Saeed Chmagh, who worked for the Reuters news agency. This is the full, unedited version of the footage.
An in-depth analysis of a leaked military video showing a US army helicopter firing on Iraqis.
Quote:Which SECOND poo-pooed, of course.
For what? The Swedish charges against him were dropped a long time ago. Assange will probably be extradited to the USA for being a journalist and publishing things that the USA deep state would rather he didn't.
Now, SECOND is making my case for me.
Once upon a time, the publisher of the Pentagon Papers got a Pulitzer. Today they would be rotting in maximum security in Colorado.
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The Democrats I like to remember on FFF.net thought that Assange wes a hero.
I'd like to think that they're still out there and that the ones we're left here don't really represent reality.
The first draft of anything is shit. :)
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Quote:It is up to the President to right whatever wrongs the jury system failed to handle, but we all know that Presidents don't look into every trial, don't we? On the other hand, Assange never had a trial because of his flightiness. A President still could have pardoned him before a trial, but that doesn't happen except in very rare cases where the President has some personal connection to the potential defendant. One huge example of a personal connection: President Andrew Johnson pardoned all the slave-owners after the Civil War because he was also a slave-owner. President Johnson was also taking bribes from the people he pardoned, but Johnson was as crooked as a person can be.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Now, SECOND is making my case for me.
Once upon a time, the publisher of the Pentagon Papers got a Pulitzer. Today they would be rotting in maximum security in Colorado.
I don’t know why Assange is still being pursued by Trump’s people, maybe because there hasn't been a trial or because Trump has no personal connection to Assange, but Manning, who gave the information to Assange, was released by Obama. Let me repeat from April 2019:
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63040&mid=10739
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Quote:Obama stated that Manning's original 35-year prison sentence was "very disproportionate relative to what other leakers have received" and that "it makes sense to commute — and not pardon — her sentence."
Originally posted by rue:
But when Obama waged war on whistle-blowers it was ok?
Let me hear you raise just one objection to Obama's heinous actions. Just one.
Obama was absolutely right, but he did NOT go after a whistle-blower, no matter how many times you mischaracterize it. It was the Pentagon, not Obama's fault. Military Justice is to justice as Military Music is to music. Nothing Obama can do about that.
Obama was faced with the dilemma of Manning screwing up perfectly justifiable whistle-blowing: Chelsea Manning had access to classified databases. In early 2010, she leaked classified information to WikiLeaks and confided this to Adrian Lamo, an online acquaintance. Lamo indirectly informed the Army's Criminal Investigation Command, and Manning was arrested in May that same year. If Manning had a tiny bit of sense, and not told Lamo, Manning would have stayed out of jail. Whistle-blowing was a great idea. Getting caught was idiotic of Manning. Obama couldn't save Manning from the Military law because Obama takes law enforcement seriously, unlike Trump.
Obama had to enforce the law about stealing secrets, but also Obama obviously approved of the whistle-blowing because he commuted Chelsea Manning's sentence. He did not have to do that.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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... While this [TRUMP] administration has acted in unprecedented ways, ignoring the norms set before them, the accusations of treason are merely a Trumpian escalation of President Barack Obama’s war on whistleblowers.
While there are protected avenues for sharing concerns about government wrongdoing and abuse, seeking any outside channel for sharing secret information leaves a whistleblower vulnerable to being charged under the Espionage Act of 1917, which was written to prosecute spies against the United States during wartime. President Obama, a constitutional-law scholar, weaponized the Espionage Act against whistleblowers like no administration before.
“Under the Obama administration was a complete misuse of the Espionage Act to target whistleblowers and to create an example of these individuals who came forward to blow the whistle on really serious intelligence community abuses of power,” says Liz Hempowicz, director of public policy at the Project on Government Oversight. Only 13 people have been charged under the Espionage Act, but eight of these cases occurred during President Barack Obama’s two terms.
SECOND is trying to cover for Obama, whose prosecution (persecution) of whistleblowers extended to many more than just Chelsea Manning.
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Yup.
Trump should pardon Snowden too.
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Quote:I think Signym's brain is either overheating or Signym is an extreme partisan. Or both.
Originally posted by SignyM:
SECOND is trying to cover for Obama, whose prosecution (persecution) of whistleblowers extended to many more than just Chelsea Manning.
I am sorry to tell you, Signym, but I don’t see Obama’s fingerprints on these cases, except for Manning, who Obama showed mercy toward after Manning got crushed by the machinery of Military Law. Manning wasn't charged by Obama with anything. It was Military Justice, all the way, which is nothing like Justice Department Justice.
There is a list of people charged under the Espionage Act of 1917 while Obama was President:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espionage_Act_of_1917#21st_century
First on the list:
Jeffrey Alexander Sterling is an American lawyer and former CIA employee who was arrested, charged, and convicted of violating the Espionage Act for revealing details about Operation Merlin (covert operation to supply Iran with flawed nuclear warhead blueprints) to journalist James Risen. In May 2015, Sterling was sentenced to 3½ years in prison, but was released early, in January 2018.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Alexander_Sterling
Second on the list:
Thomas Andrews Drake. On June 9, 2011, all 10 original charges against him were dropped. He eventually pleaded to one misdemeanor count for exceeding authorized use of a computer. The judge noted that Drake had been financially devastated, spending $82,000 on his defense, losing his $154,600 job at the NSA and his pension, and being fired from his university teaching position. He sentenced Drake to one year of probation and 240 hours of community service.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_A._Drake
Third on the list:
Shamai K. Leibowitz – In May 2010, Shamai K. Leibowitz, a translator for the FBI, admitted sharing information with a blogger and pleaded guilty to one count of disclosure of classified information. As part of a plea bargain, he was sentenced to 20 months in prison.
He is interesting. Mr. Leibowitz, an Israeli-American lawyer, told the court he now understood that he should have gone to the Inspector General of the Justice Department instead. “I used bad judgment and made a terrible decision. I would like to emphasize,” he told the judge in a written statement, “that I was not motivated by greed, fame, personal ambition, or foreign interests. I made a mistake but only because I believed it was in the best interests of the American people. I truly regret that my misguided patriotism led me to make a mistake that is wholly uncharacteristic of me.”
https://fas.org/blogs/secrecy/2010/05/jail_leak/
Fourth on the list:
In August 2010, Stephen Jin-Woo Kim, a contractor for the State Department and a specialist in nuclear proliferation, was indicted under 18 U.S.C. § 793(d) for alleged disclosure in June 2009 of national defense information to reporter James Rosen of Fox News Channel, related to North Korea's plans to test a nuclear weapon.
In June 2009, Kim allegedly had a conversation with Rosen about North Korea planning a nuclear bomb test. The alleged false statements to the FBI occurred in September 2009, regarding whether or not Kim had any contact with Rosen (whom he allegedly met around March 2009). Kim was sentenced to a 13-month prison term.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Jin-Woo_Kim
Fifth on the list:
Chelsea Manning, who was released by Obama.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_Manning
Sixth and last on the list of people charged while Obama was President:
Edward Joseph Snowden. That’s an interesting story because he now lives in Russia, for some reason. He’d be a hero, except he never showed up in Federal Court, so it is kind of hard for him to win his case and receive the Medal of Freedom from Obama for service to his country. Obama probably would have awarded him, but Snowden didn’t stick around.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden#Flight_from_the_United_St
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All were prosecuted by Obama's DOJ.
It's funny... except it's not ... that you hold Trump responsible for every little bitty thing that happened under his Presidency, AND for a lot of things that DIDN'T happen (like collusion with Russia) but you give Obama a pass on everything.
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