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A “Seditious Caucus” Stunt to Defraud America
Although the State Department’s final report on Clinton’s email use, issued in October 2019, declared there was no systematic or deliberate mishandling of classified information, the constant barrage of accusations made the email story the most important story of the 2016 election. It outweighed all the scandals involving then-candidate Donald Trump: the ones involving sexual assault, financial corruption, mocking of a disabled reporter, attacks on immigrants, and so on.
A study by Duncan J. Watts and David M. Rothschild in the Columbia Journalism Review noted that in the 2016 election season there were 65,000 sentences in the media about Clinton’s email use but only 40,000 about all of Trump’s scandals combined. There were twice as many sentences about Clinton’s emails than about her policies. The authors wrote, “in just six days, the New York Times ran as many cover stories about Hillary Clinton’s emails as they did about all policy issues combined in the 69 days leading up to the election.” The email scandal likely cost Clinton the 2016 election, and even now, after the State Department cleared her of wrongdoing, many Americans still think Clinton mishandled classified information in her emails.
Trump tried the same tactic in 2020. Smearing an opponent through investigations was at the heart of the Ukraine scandal of 2019. Trump pressured new Ukraine president Volodymyr Zelensky, not to start an investigation of Hunter Biden and the company on whose board he had sat, but rather simply to announce that he was starting an investigation. An announcement would be enough to get picked up by the American news media so that story after story would convince voters that Hunter Biden and, by extension, his father, were involved in corruption, even without evidence.
Then, just before the election, Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani drummed up the story that Hunter Biden had left a laptop that contained incriminating evidence against both Bidens at a repair shop, and Republican leadership clamored for investigations– this time to no avail because the story was so outrageous.
“Now,” they are alleging the need for an investigation into irregularities in the 2020 election, although they have failed repeatedly to produce any evidence of such irregularities in court. Their argument is that the country needs an investigation to relieve people’s worries about the legitimacy of the election, but those worries have been created precisely by the unjustified accusations of Republican leaders. An investigation would simply convince people that the election results are questionable. They are not.
The attempt of the senators to get Congress to appoint an investigatory committee into alleged fraud in the election is dangerous and unprecedented, and they know it. In their statement, they tried to suggest they are simply following the precedent established by Congress after the chaotic 1876 election, but the two situations are very different.
In 1876, elections were organized by the parties themselves and were notoriously corrupt. Parties printed their own ballots in a distinctive color with only their own slate of electors. Men dropped the ballots for their party, unmarked, into a box, but their votes were not secret: how men voted was obvious from the colored ballots, at the very least. Politicians watching the polls knew exactly what the counts would be, and it was not unusual for ballot boxes to be either stuffed or broken open before results were reported.
In Florida, Louisiana, and South Carolina in 1876, Democrats appeared to have won the election, but there was no dispute that they had terrorized Republican voters to keep them from the polls. The results were a hopeless mess: in South Carolina, for example, 101% of all eligible voters cast ballots. Florida and Louisiana both reported more reasonable numbers of voters, but they each sent competing sets of electors to Congress. In both states, different officials signed off on different certificates of election, so it was not a
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I have no problem with people who were blatantly cheated defending themselves.
The only coup was the Establishment cheating to throw Trump out.
Enjoy the next 4 years of war and getting nothing you thought you were voting for.
The first draft of anything is shit. :)
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from the LATimes (which is behind a paywall) republished in Yahoo
Republican congressional wins in California won't avert party's 'death spiral,' analysts say
https://news.yahoo.com/republican-congressional-wins-california-wont-1
40052398.html
Republicans regained 4 of 7 House seats in 2020 that they lost in 2018.
This article makes the same argument that the DNC* was aiming at prior to 2016 ... democrats*! because ... "demographics", as if people were born with Democratic* genes along with their personal identities. But none of the Asians I knew voted for Hillary*, and 2 of the seat-flippers of 2020 were Korean immigrants, speaking to the American dream of hard work and success. (Of course their successes are more complicated than being self-made women, but nuance is lost in politics.)
I don't think state or national democrats* have a lock on California politics due to "demographics". Democrats* will still have to earn votes.
Oh, and playing out in all this is a 'repeal Gov Newsom' (D*) push due to the pandemic.
If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?
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Quote:Biden got more votes.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I have no problem with people who were blatantly cheated defending themselves.
The only coup was the Establishment cheating to throw Trump out.
Enjoy the next 4 years of war and getting nothing you thought you were voting for.
The first draft of anything is shit. :)
Trump never got higher than about 40% approval, ever, because people with 3 digit IQs see him for the stupid, evil, openly criminal psycho he truly is.
Trump got his ass kicked because true American patriots stood up and got rid of him. No cheating required, dummy. Most fair election, ever.
Biden is our fairly elected next president. Trump will spend the rest of his life trying to avoid prison.
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CNN fact-checker Daniel Dale said President Donald Trump’s speech in Georgia on Monday night seemed to come from an “alternate universe” given how many lies it contained.
“The president is not even remotely connected to reality,” Dale told the news network’s Don Lemon. “Either he’s lying, his brain has been completely captured by internet weirdos, or both.”
But Dale said the most striking thing about Trump’s lie-filled speech in Georgia on Monday was that it boring.
“Have you ever sat at a family gathering, or at a bar or on a date and had someone just talk your ear off ? complete nonsense ? for like an hour, and you feel like you can’t escape?” he said. “That’s all of us right now because that’s the president right now.”
Then he got to the work of debunking Trump’s myriad lies:
More at https://www.huffpost.com/entry/daniel-dale-fact-checker-trump-brain_n_
5ff3fa66c5b65a92291106b0
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Watched the video reaver, dead on correct. Dead on correct.
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Quote:
Originally posted by second:
CNN fact-checker Daniel Dale said President Donald Trump’s speech in Georgia on Monday night seemed to come from an “alternate universe” given how many lies it contained.
“The president is not even remotely connected to reality,” Dale told the news network’s Don Lemon. “Either he’s lying, his brain has been completely captured by internet weirdos, or both.”
But Dale said the most striking thing about Trump’s lie-filled speech in Georgia on Monday was that it boring.
“Have you ever sat at a family gathering, or at a bar or on a date and had someone just talk your ear off ? complete nonsense ? for like an hour, and you feel like you can’t escape?” he said. “That’s all of us right now because that’s the president right now.”
Then he got to the work of debunking Trump’s myriad lies:
More at https://www.huffpost.com/entry/daniel-dale-fact-checker-trump-brain_n_
5ff3fa66c5b65a92291106b0
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
fascinating
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Ending Poverty in the United States Would Be Easy
Question: You both have worked with poor people in the United States for a long time. But you write that it took a while for you to come to your own realizations that our approach to confronting poverty is fundamentally flawed.
Answer: At the policy level, we create systems that make it hard for people to be self-sufficient.
For example, many people who are part of the TANF (Temporary Assistance for Needy Families) or workforce development programs are trained to become certified nursing assistants, CNAs. That’s a very important job that we need to do. But it is a poverty-wage job. By and large, people who work in those positions don’t have workplace benefits and are not paid a living wage. But the government trains someone to be a CNA and then it can feel like it’s done something because it’s gotten that person off of the rolls.
At the soup kitchen where I worked, you would always have people after the meal asking, “Do you have 75 cents for the bus?” I used to think, gosh, we should teach them planning skills, how to think more long-term. Because they knew when they came to the soup kitchen, they had to get back home. Later on, I realized: they were hungry, and they got 75 cents somehow to come to the soup kitchen to eat in the first place. That was the wise survival strategy.
So often we make judgments about poor people’s motivation and cognition that are really a reflection of not having resources. I do a lot of work in the criminal legal system, and motivation is a big deal. Do they show up for their appointments? Do they return phone calls?
Well, to show up for an appointment, you need transportation and childcare. To return phone calls, you need a working phone. The written notices may be written in a language they don’t speak. And on and on. It’s very much like that woman who didn’t have toilet paper: she didn’t need a lecture on being a better parent; she needed toilet paper. And the guys at the soup kitchen that I was making judgments about — they needed 75 cents for the bus.
Poverty is simply not having enough money to meet your needs. There is nothing more complicated about it than that. And we live in the richest nation in the world, where there is plenty of money. So if we have the political will, we could end poverty.
There are lots of different ways to do it. A living wage is necessary, and a universal basic income can help. We talk in the book about universal health care, housing supports, about making water and electricity and heat a public good. Other countries do all this, and there is no reason we could not do so as well.
Question: You mention other nations’ approaches to basic needs. The United States has a dramatically higher poverty rate than other wealthy nations and dramatically greater levels of income and wealth inequality. What are other countries doing right that we don’t do here?
Answer: They establish some sort of floor. There is no floor in the United States — there is no depth of poverty that you can’t fall to. We have made TANF time-limited, we have enacted policies to make SNAP [Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, formerly Food Stamps] time-limited. You can be literally left out in the cold here.
One of the biggest things that’s different about the United States than most other countries is that you can become bankrupt due to medical debt. Not having guaranteed health care and the likelihood of accumulating debt related to health care is uniquely American and incredibly dangerous. Many of the other issues poor people struggle with are smaller dollar numbers, but you can go into hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt for medical issues. You talk to people around the world, and they just are gobsmacked that we allow this.
More at https://www.jacobinmag.com/2020/12/broke-in-america-ending-us-poverty
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Eric Trump Warns Republicans 'Career Is Over' Unless Backing His Father's Election Fight
Eric Trump issued a warning to the Republicans in Congress who are not behind his father's efforts to overturn the 2020 election result, telling them their "political career is over" and touting the threat of primaries.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/eric-trump-warns-republicans-c
areer-is-over-unless-backing-his-father-s-election-fight/ar-BB1cwbhj?ocid=msedgntp
Can you say attempted blackmail. Can you say desperate. It's entirely possible Republicans' get pissed enough to go after Trump themselves. Wouldn't that be lovely.
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