Russia wants to upend Western democracy
POSTED BY: THGRRI
UPDATED: Monday, August 31, 2026 20:48
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Quote:If by Turd you mean Trump, the whole world smells him, except for Trump voters.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Right on cue, I see.
What did I tell you T?
You can smell that turd from a mile away.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63460
Wherever possible there must be independent confirmation of the facts.
Encourage substantive debate on the evidence by knowledgeable proponents of all points of view.
Arguments from authority carry little weight (in science there are no "authorities").
Spin more than one hypothesis - don't simply run with the first idea that caught your fancy.
Try not to get overly attached to a hypothesis just because it's yours.
Quantify, wherever possible.
If there is a chain of argument every link in the chain must work.
Occam's razor - if there are two hypotheses that explain the data equally well choose the simpler.
Ask whether the hypothesis can, at least in principle, be falsified (shown to be false by some unambiguous test). In other words, it is testable? Can others duplicate the experiment and get the same result?
http://carlsagan.com/index_ideascontent.htm
Quote:Wherever possible there must be independent confirmation of the facts.
As we all know,
Arguments from authority carry little weight (in science there are no "authorities").
Quote:Wherever possible there must be independent confirmation of the facts.
Donald Trump spent many months last year trying to
Encourage substantive debate on the evidence by knowledgeable proponents of all points of view.
Quantify, wherever possible.
Arguments from authority carry little weight (in science there are no "authorities").
Quote:Wherever possible there must be independent confirmation of the facts. (in this case the evidence in the testimony disproves this statement)
force
(because of that, every following statement should be read with the understanding that this requirement was failed: If there is a chain of argument every link in the chain must work.)
Spin more than one hypothesis - don't simply run with the first idea that caught your fancy. (or caters to your hatreds)
Quote:Wherever possible there must be independent confirmation of the facts. (in this case the evidence in the transcript disproves this statement)
Ukraine to announce an investigation into Hunter Biden’s work
Quote:Wherever possible there must be independent confirmation of the facts. (in this case the evidence in the transcript shows Burisma wasn't mentioned by name at all)
for a Ukrainian energy company called Burisma Holdings.
Quote:Arguments from authority carry little weight (in science there are no "authorities").
The idea
Spin more than one hypothesis - don't simply run with the first idea that caught your fancy.
Quote:Arguments from authority carry little weight (in science there are no "authorities").
was to imply that (a) Hunter was employed solely to curry favor with Joe Biden, and (b) Joe Biden therefore treated Burisma favorably when he was vice president.
Spin more than one hypothesis - don't simply run with the first idea that caught your fancy.
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but Trump tried and tried
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to extort
Arguments from authority carry little weight (in science there are no "authorities").
Spin more than one hypothesis - don't simply run with the first idea that caught your fancy.
Quote:Wherever possible there must be independent confirmation of the facts.
Ukrainian officials into insinuating it anyway. This failed, and eventually led to impeachment charges in Congress.
Arguments from authority carry little weight (in science there are no "authorities").
Spin more than one hypothesis
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Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:If by Turd you mean Trump...
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Right on cue, I see.
What did I tell you T?
You can smell that turd from a mile away.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Nope. I meant you and you're extremely predictable behavior.
We can set a clock to you.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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As true today as when I started this thread and now with Biden and a renewed relationship with our allies, the shit is going to hit the fan.
T 
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Just responding to your title:
SO WHAT?
Russia can't "upend" anything if we don't let them.
That means that we have clean and auditable elections, and robust discussion of the issues under the banner of freedom of speech.
If you depend on censorhip and propaganda and mob rule to "enforce" your "democracy" then YOU HAVE JUST UPENDED IT YOURSELF.
It's like WISHY wanting to impose a Reign of Terror and kill 99.999% of the people on the globe, all in the name of "freedom" ... it's kind of self-contradictory, wouldn't you say?
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
#WEARAMASK
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Quote:Coming straight from a Russian troll who works for a Russian troll farm. ^
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Just responding to your title:
SO WHAT?
Russia can't "upend" anything if we don't let them.
That means that we have clean and auditable elections, and robust discussion of the issues under the banner of freedom of speech.
If you depend on censorhip and propaganda and mob rule to "enforce" your "democracy" then YOU HAVE JUST UPENDED IT YOURSELF.
It's like WISHY wanting to impose a Reign of Terror and kill 99.999% of the people on the globe, all in the name of "freedom" ... it's kind of self-contradictory, wouldn't you say?
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
#WEARAMASK
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Once again, RF has no ON TOPIC response. Because ...
... RF is an idiot. It's that simple.
And btw, RF, if you EVER happen to accidentally stumble into an OP response, I'll address your post OP. Until then, you get what you dish out.
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Originally posted by reaverfan:Quote:Coming straight from a Russian troll who works for a Russian troll farm. ^
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Just responding to your title:
SO WHAT?
Russia can't "upend" anything if we don't let them.
That means that we have clean and auditable elections, and robust discussion of the issues under the banner of freedom of speech.
If you depend on censorhip and propaganda and mob rule to "enforce" your "democracy" then YOU HAVE JUST UPENDED IT YOURSELF.
It's like WISHY wanting to impose a Reign of Terror and kill 99.999% of the people on the globe, all in the name of "freedom" ... it's kind of self-contradictory, wouldn't you say?
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
#WEARAMASK
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Yanno, I kind of look at REAVERBOT'S libel as points on my scoreboard. Every time he has to resort to "Russian troll" because he (literally) has no on-point rebuttal*, I feel I've made a particulary solid argument.
And when he has to add a cartoon?
BONUS POINTS!
So, thanks for the points, REAVERBOT!
AND the bump!
* Also, a perfect example of someone who wants to upend democracy, because he relies on (attempted) intimidation to impose his POV, not logical fact-based argument exercised under the protections of free speech.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
#WEARAMASK
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Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Former Ukraine finance minister:
Russia's interference in the U.S. election was but the latest and most audacious episode in Moscow's ongoing effort to destroy liberal democracy and the Trans-Atlantic partnership, says a top Ukrainian leader. "The information attacks, the propaganda, the cyberattacks. We've lived through all the things they tested first in Ukraine," Natalie Jaresko, the country's former finance minister told David Axelrod on The Axe Files podcast, a joint production of CNN and the University of Chicago's Institute of Politics.
"It's shocking that they would take the risk of doing that in the United States. And now it appears -- I've seen reports -- Germany, France and elsewhere. "
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/30/politics/natalie-jaresko-axe-files/index
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And Trump is his best ally in this.
T
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