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Critics of Canceling Student Debt Aren’t Afraid It Won’t Work—They’re Afraid It Will
https://fair.org/home/critics-of-cancelling-student-debt-arent-afraid-
it-wont-work-theyre-afraid-it-will/
The business media’s fairness argument against forgiving student debts is made in bad faith: Canceling student debt doesn’t negate other policies that would benefit blue-collar workers or the unemployed. Sanders voters who want to forgive student debt also support increased jobless benefits and stimulus payouts across the board, as well as universal healthcare, which would untether medical costs from employment.
Forgiving student debt is the perfect way to inject life into the economy. As the vaccine is distributed and we need the economy to come back, what better way then to inject 2 trillion dollars into it. That's how much money is tied up in student loans. It also helps lift those burdened with this debt. It used to be getting a mortgage was the major debt people took on. Now education in many cases dwarfs the cost of a mortgage. If we're going to compete globally we need to lesson the cost of higher ed.
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Too bad for all those stoopid suckers who worked hard to pay their student loans off. There goes another set of college educated people who won't be voting D any time soon.
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Too bad for all those stoopid suckers who worked hard to pay their student loans off. There goes another set of college educated people who won't be voting D any time soon.
If the government paid off student loans, they're giving free money to the most upwardly mobile, mostly young white middle-class people in the country.
Great idea.
What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)
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The fight to reform or abolish the electoral college began almost as soon as it was created, by those who created it. In 1802, Alexander Hamilton, one of the original architects of the electoral college, was so displeased with how it was being executed that he helped draft a constitutional amendment to fix it. Since then there have been more than 700 efforts to reform or abolish it, according to the Congressional Research Service.
The electoral college is once again confounding the country as it prepares to meet Dec. 14 to ratify the election of Joe Biden as the 46th president of the United States. Just one problem: President Trump refuses to concede to Biden, making baseless claims of fraud while his surrogates urge Michigan legislators to overturn the election by appointing their own electors.
Biden is expected to win the electoral college by the same margin Trump did in 2016. Back then, Trump declared his victory a landslide, though he trailed in the popular vote by nearly 3 million while this time Biden leads the popular vote by nearly 7 million.
The closest the country has ever come to abolishing the electoral college was after segregationist Gov. George Wallace’s presidential campaign nearly threw the 1968 election.
Wallace was a man accustomed to winning power on technicalities. The state constitution in Alabama forbade governors from serving two consecutive terms. When his first term as governor was running out in 1966, his wife Lurleen ran to succeed him, promising to “continue, with my husband’s help, the same type of government.” She won in a landslide.
So, when he decided to run for president in 1968 as a third-party candidate, he had a trick up his sleeve there, too. His goal wasn’t to beat the Democratic or Republican candidates for the White House; it was to deprive both men of the 270 electoral votes needed to win, thus kicking the decision to the House. Then, as his biographer Dan Carter put it in a 2001 PBS documentary, Wallace would be “in a position to dictate to either candidate, ‘Alright, if you support me on the following issues, then I’ll deliver the presidency.’ ” And what were those issues? An end to federal desegregation efforts, for starters.
By this time, Wallace had learned the art of the dog whistle and was no longer saying things like “segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever” out loud. But he still inflamed rally crowds with his talk of rioters, hippies and anarchists. In the chaos of 1968, many White voters flocked to him. By October, polls showed him with 22 percent support nationally, more than enough for his electoral college hack to work.
But then Wallace dealt himself his own October surprise. He announced his running mate, Curtis LeMay, a retired Air Force general, who promptly told a room full of reporters he wasn’t opposed to nuking Vietnam.
In the end, Wallace got 14 percent of the popular vote, and 46 electoral votes, carrying most of the South. But Republican Richard M. Nixon got 301 electoral votes, foiling Wallace’s plan. Had Wallace gotten 50,000 more votes in Tennessee and had Democrat Hubert Humphrey gotten 91,000 more votes in Ohio, it would have been successful.
The near miss was enough to spur Congress to action. Why did the amendment fail to pass Congress? Because Southern senators led by South Carolina’s Strom Thurmond were perfectly happy with the system as it was. As Wallace had demonstrated, the electoral college increased the importance of the Southern White vote and, very important, effectively canceled out the Black vote so long as Southern Blacks remained the minority in each state. Senator Thurmond blocked the amendment from moving forward with a filibuster.
More at https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2020/12/04/abolish-electoral-co
llege-george-wallace-trump-bayh/
Who was Senator Strom Thurmond? Originally a Democrat, he was reelected as a Republican to seven consecutive terms. In 1996 he became the oldest person to serve in Congress and the following year became the longest-serving U.S. senator.
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Too bad for all those stoopid suckers who worked hard to pay their student loans off. There goes another set of college educated people who won't be voting D any time soon.
Once again comrade kiki displays her two dimensional thinking; black or white. Her response allows for no consideration of the state of the economy today, and how and why it differs from times past. Differs due to the incompetency of her chosen president. I won't waste any more time discussing this with a Russian troll. We need to forgive student loan debt as a way to boost the economy.
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Quote:You cry like a bitch. Education should be free. No one should have to go into debt for it. We need people with knowledge and skills. It would pay for itself 10 times over.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Too bad for all those stoopid suckers who worked hard to pay their student loans off. There goes another set of college educated people who won't be voting D any time soon.
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Donald Trump can – and should – be stopped from running in 2024
This is the moment to send a clear message that democracy need not supply its enemies with the means to destroy it
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/dec/04/donald-trump-pre
sidential-run-20204
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