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MARCO (MINI ME) TRUMP
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It may well be that Germans have a special inclination to panic at specters from the past, and I admit that this alarmism annoys me at times. Yet watching President Trump’s “Stop the Steal” campaign since Election Day, I can’t help but see a parallel to one of the most dreadful episodes from Germany’s history.
One hundred years ago, amid the implosions of Imperial Germany, powerful conservatives who led the country into war refused to accept that they had lost. Their denial gave birth to arguably the most potent and disastrous political lie of the 20th century — the Dolchstosslegende, or stab-in-the-back myth.
Its core claim was that Imperial Germany never lost World War I. Defeat, its proponents said, was declared but not warranted. It was a conspiracy, a con, a capitulation — a grave betrayal that forever stained the nation. That the claim was palpably false didn’t matter. Among a sizable number of Germans, it stirred resentment, humiliation and anger. And the one figure who knew best how to exploit their frustration was Adolf Hitler.
Don’t get me wrong: This is not about comparing Mr. Trump to Hitler, which would be absurd. But the Dolchstosslegende provides a warning. It’s tempting to dismiss Mr. Trump’s irrational claim that the election was “rigged” as a laughable last convulsion of his reign or a cynical bid to heighten the market value for the TV personality he might once again intend to become, especially as he appears to be giving up on his effort to overturn the election result.
But that would be a grave error. Instead, the campaign should be seen as what it is: an attempt to elevate “They stole it” to the level of legend, perhaps seeding for the future social polarization and division on a scale America has never seen.
Mr. Trump’s baseless accusations about electoral fraud could do serious harm. A staggering 88 percent of Trump voters believe that the election result is illegitimate, according to a YouGov poll. A myth of betrayal and injustice is well underway.
It took another war and decades of reappraisal for the Dolchstosslegende to be exposed as a disastrous, fatal fallacy. If it has any worth today, it is in the lessons it can teach other nations. First among them: Beware the beginnings.
More at https://web.archive.org/web/20201201234106/https://www.nytimes.com/202
0/11/30/opinion/trump-conspiracy-germany-1918.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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If Democratic Senate candidate Raphael Warnock is worried about the deluge of negative ads coming from Republican incumbent Kelly Loeffler and her allies, he isn’t letting Georgia voters see him sweat.
In a 30-second TV response, the 51-year-old pastor was shown walking his Beagle down a tree-lined suburban street holding a bag of dog feces while telling supporters he knew the “smear ads” were coming.
“Loeffler is trying to scare voters by taking things I’ve said out of context from over 25 years of being a pastor.
But I think Georgians will see her ads for what they are.”
Warnock dropped the bag into the trash and looked at the pup and asked:
“Don’t you?”
https://angrybearblog.com/2020/12/kelly-loefflers-smears-of-raphael-wa
rnock-are-met-with-a-metaphor.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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The Show Is Over. The Fat Horror Is Still Here.
Defeating Trump was never going to be enough.
Open calls for martial law? Sure. Plans to disrupt the electoral count are floated. Deranged speech about throwing out votes? Why not? Out of the corners of my eyes I can see the White House superspreader Christmas events and clock the ranting and huffing of the almost-former commander in chief as he spreads chaos and doubt on his way out of office. It’s just another moneymaking venture, but holy hell, the cost to a functional future democracy is high.
We are still at the mercy of this guy who just won’t leave. It doesn’t matter if it’s meant to be a joke, or lavish slow-release trolling—it feels frightening to sit in this calm after the storm and imagine what the next storm will be. Maybe it’s what Trump will do with his followers after he leaves office, or maybe it’s what “sane” Republicans will do even after Trump is gone. We don’t know yet; all that we currently can see is that if this decisive election couldn’t bring relief, what can?
In a few weeks’ time, when Trump has squeezed the last penny out of the last true Trump enthusiasts, and several thousands more have died silently and pointlessly from a pandemic that we never addressed, Republican leadership will largely admit what it knew months earlier: that Joe Biden in fact won the election. Until then, we wait. There are, one gathers, still-lingering lawsuits. Trump has clawed back a transition in favor of a bonus period in which to loot and destroy. There appears to be no mechanism, legal or political, to stop him.
There is a fresh sadness to the way Trump’s actions since the election have solidified the reality that there is no normal to which to revert, no path back toward compromise, because the problem was never just Trump, even a Trump who declines to leave. The problem was a party and a country that backed him, and we still have one each of those, even when he is out the door.
https://web.archive.org/web/20201203175615/https://slate.com/news-and-
politics/2020/12/trump-show-finally-over.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Life After Trump
I’ve been basically optimistic about life after Trump. It’s certainly true that Trump is a symptom of the rot in the Republican Party, not a cause of it, and it’s also true that he has personally taken the party to a whole new level of toxicity. He could only do that because he’s a unique personality. I figured that once he was gone the party would forget he ever existed and quietly settle back into its usual role of kowtowing to millionaires and white evangelical Christians. Trump, I thought, was a blip, not a harbinger of things to come.
I still believe that, but only if Trump actually goes away. That’s why stories like this unnerve me:
President Trump has raised $495 million since mid-October, with $207.5 million of it pouring in after Election Day — an extraordinary haul resulting from Trump’s post-election fundraising effort using a blizzard of misleading appeals about the integrity of the vote.
….Much of the money raised since the election probably will go into Save America, a political action committee that the president can use for various activities after he leaves office. Some of the contributions will go toward what is left of the president’s legal fights over the certification of election results, which have failed to gain traction in the courts.
If this really is pure grift, and Trump uses the money to build a new wing at Mar-a-Lago, I’ll breathe a sigh of relief. But probably not. This kind of fundraising suggests pretty strongly that Trump plans to stay very, very active—maybe on TV, maybe doing rallies, maybe creating a whole new cable channel just for himself and his buddies. And I don’t know how to think about that. If he does this, will he retain his deathlike grip on the Republican Party? Or will he eventually fade away, like Sarah Palin?
I don’t know. But I can say that I’m a little less optimistic than I used to be.
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2020/12/how-long-will-it-be-until-donal
d-trump-goes-away/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:
It’s certainly true that Trump is a symptom of the rot in the Democratic Party
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The sooner you figure that out, the better off the country will be.
What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)
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Quote:My understanding of the Democratic and Republican Parties is built using a different methodology than yours -- I look at the everyday and ordinary contrast between the lives of voters for Democrats versus voters for Republicans. For example: Democrats can smell and complain about the rotting cadavers that are Trump's tax returns. Republicans can't smell the corruption because of stuffy noses. Democrats want to dig up the shallow graves in Trump's backyard to see if he buried a squirrel or a dog or if he buried people he murdered. In contrast, Republicans think that what Trump buried is nobody's business, although it is stinking up the neighborhood.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
It’s certainly true that Trump is a symptom of the rot in the Democratic Party
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The sooner you figure that out, the better off the country will be.
Trump tax cheating
https://www.google.com/search?q=trump+tax+cheating
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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AOC Shuts Down Republican Critics of Her ‘Tax the Rich’ Merch With a Perfect Comeback
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/aoc-shuts-down-republican-critics-
002832531.html
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A little Deadhead humor. 3 songs that are often segued together.
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Critics of Canceling Student Debt Aren’t Afraid It Won’t Work—They’re Afraid It Will
https://fair.org/home/critics-of-cancelling-student-debt-arent-afraid-
it-wont-work-theyre-afraid-it-will/
The business media’s fairness argument against forgiving student debts is made in bad faith: Canceling student debt doesn’t negate other policies that would benefit blue-collar workers or the unemployed. Sanders voters who want to forgive student debt also support increased jobless benefits and stimulus payouts across the board, as well as universal healthcare, which would untether medical costs from employment.
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