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Tuesday, December 1, 2020 2:50 AM

I don't blame you for being optimistic.

You might want to dial that back a bit and remain cautiously optimistic.

Just a suggestion.



What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Tuesday, December 1, 2020 5:53 AM

The rich are getting richer and everyone else is getting poorer. That is exactly the plan
https://www.alternet.org/2020/11/us-economy/?utm_source=&utm_mediu
m=email&utm_campaign=5979


Most of us have a quaint, 19th century idea about free markets and all that up-by-the-bootstraps Horatio Alger stuff. You know, work hard, play by the rules, keep your nose clean, and you'll do well. That is certainly the cultural myth our society bathes us in.

But that's not how things actually work. It's the dissonance between how we imagine things work and how they really work that causes our perplexity and angst, and rage. It is also that dissonance that has been so deftly manipulated by Donald Trump and given rise to Trumpism.

Forty years ago, around 1980, the uber-wealthy decided they wanted to get their money out of the economy. There was too much political turmoil (Vietnam, Watergate), too much economic turbulence (Arab oil embargos, stagflation), and too high of a cost of production (high wages, environmental and labor protections).

They wanted to take their money somewhere where they could pay people 1/20th what they paid here (less than $1 an hour), where there were no environmental or labor laws, where the workforce was plentiful, hungry, and docile, and where politicians could be bought cheap.


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Tuesday, December 1, 2020 6:57 AM

I don't have any angst and rage.

Everything is copacetic here, buddy.


You should probably just stop enslaving yourself to debt for all that shit you don't need.

That is, assuming you haven't buried yourself so deep into it you can never get out. Especially since Bankruptcy won't get rid of all of those college loans for your CRT major.



What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Tuesday, December 1, 2020 4:21 PM




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Tuesday, December 1, 2020 4:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I don't have any angst and rage.


That's all you have.


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Tuesday, December 1, 2020 4:52 PM

Boy, they got ME pegged!



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Tuesday, December 1, 2020 5:05 PM



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Tuesday, December 1, 2020 5:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I don't have any angst and rage.

Everything is copacetic here, buddy.


You should probably just stop enslaving yourself to debt for all that shit you don't need.

That is, assuming you haven't buried yourself so deep into it you can never get out. Especially since Bankruptcy won't get rid of all of those college loans for your CRT major.

6ix, you would NOT have over-praised the movie Joker and raged against Democrats who hated that movie if things were going as well as you claim.
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63299&mid=10838
27#1083827

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=36&tid=63327&mid=10857
85#1085785


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, December 1, 2020 5:19 PM

The most important book I’ve read this year
https://www.vox.com/2020/11/30/21726563/kim-stanley-robinson-the-ezra-
klein-show-climate-change


If I could get policymakers, and citizens, everywhere to read just one book this year, it would be Kim Stanley Robinson’s The Ministry for the Future.

Best known for the Mars trilogy, Robinson is one of the greatest living science fiction writers. And in recent years, he’s become the greatest writer of what people now call cli-fi — climate fiction. The name is a bit of a misnomer: Climate fiction is less fictitious speculation than an attempt to envision a near future that we are likely to inhabit. It’s an attempt to take our present — and thus the future we’re ensuring — more seriously than we do. Robinson’s new book does exactly that.

In The Ministry for the Future, Robinson imagines a world wracked by climate catastrophe. Some nations begin unilateral geoengineering. Eco-violence arises as people begin to experience unchecked climate change as an act of war against them, and they respond in kind, using new technologies to hunt those they blame. Capitalism ruptures, changes, and is remade. Nations, and the relations between them, transform. Ultimately, humanity is successful, but it is a terrifying success — a success that involves making the kinds of choices that none of us want to even think about making.

This conversation with Robinson was fantastic. We discuss why the end of the world is easier to imagine than the end of capitalism; how changes to the biosphere will force humanity to rethink capitalism, borders, terrorism, and currency; the influence of eco-Marxism on Robinson’s thinking; how existing power relationships define the boundaries of what is considered violence; why science fiction as a discipline is particularly suited to grapple with climate change; what a complete rethinking of the global economic system could look like; why Robinson thinks geoengineering needs to be on the table; the vastly underrated importance of the Paris climate agreement, and much more.

https://www.vox.com/2020/11/30/21726563/kim-stanley-robinson-the-ezra-
klein-show-climate-change


The free book about what is ahead: http://gen.lib.rus.ec/fiction/?q=Kim+Stanley+Robinson+Ministry

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, December 1, 2020 6:06 PM




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