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Food quality, dietary habits, and health

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Saturday, November 21, 2020 10:53 PM

What is the relationship between calcification of the arteries and hardening of the arteries caused by plaque, which then causes High Blood Pressure?
I know Niacin can prevent plaque build-up, and therefore reduce HBP, but does calcification work the same way?
Can calcification be addressed through exercise, fitness?

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Saturday, November 21, 2020 10:57 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/arti
cles/calcification#arteries
Researchers suggest that 90% of men and 67% of women over 70 years of age have coronary artery calcification.

https://www.news-medical.net/health/Ca
lcification-of-the-Arteries.aspx
Arterial calcification is a gradual and progressive process that is seen in most people after the 6th decade of life.

very little at this site
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-co
nditions/aortic-stenosis/expert-answers/aortic-valve-calcification/faq-20058525
Calcification and stenosis generally affects people older than age 65.

Trying to fix this post for readability.

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Sunday, November 22, 2020 12:44 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
What is the relationship between calcification of the arteries and hardening of the arteries caused by plaque, which then causes High Blood Pressure?
I know Niacin can prevent plaque build-up, and therefore reduce HBP, but does calcification work the same way?
Can calcification be addressed through exercise, fitness?

Niacin can raise your "good" cholesterol, but this person I know took niacin for about 10 years (a gram a day) and there is little indication that it reduced arterial plaque.

Many studies don't show any actual benefit from taking niacin in terms of bp and cardiac events and from observing this person's experience I would have to agree. good numbers don't always mean good real-world outcomes. There's a lot "they" don't know about human health.

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Sunday, November 22, 2020 12:47 AM

But, taking a page from JSF's playbook, I've decided to save half of my dinner for bfast the following day, shifting more of my food from PM to AM.

Still working on regularizing my eating schedule, tho. It's been chaotic for YEARS (just like my sleep schedule) because of one family health crisis or another (including my own) and it will be a while before I fully institute some sort of regular habit.

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Sunday, November 22, 2020 2:53 AM


I find I can NOT get to sleep without eating something before bed. It's something I've noticed since I was in my 20's, so, whatever it is, it's been going on a long time. I need to figure out what that should be - that'll trigger whatever it needs to trigger so I can sleep, but not be a calorie bomb. So far, I figured out a cup of warm broth does not do it.

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Sunday, November 22, 2020 3:01 AM


JSF - there's a lot I haven't kept up on regarding arterial plaque (which leads to calcification), and a lot I've forgotten. But I doesn't just settle on arterial walls like snow on a sidewalk, deposits end up in lumps that actually grow and invade the CVS tissues, from the lining of the CVS walls (the intima) and into the surrounding CVS wall itself (the media).

Last I knew, a predictor of CVS 'event' was the thickness of your arterial walls (media) as measured in your carotid artery by ultrasound, but I don't know the basis for that, or if it's a theory-less useful observation.

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Tuesday, November 24, 2020 12:58 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
But, taking a page from JSF's playbook, I've decided to save half of my dinner for bfast the following day, shifting more of my food from PM to AM.

Still working on regularizing my eating schedule, tho. It's been chaotic for YEARS (just like my sleep schedule) because of one family health crisis or another (including my own) and it will be a while before I fully institute some sort of regular habit.

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Cool. The useful factor is moving that caloric intake from "immediatley prior to dormancy" to "before physical activity, increased metabolism" periods.
For reference, can you tell us if you have been feeling hungry when you awake, or most of the time you awake, up until now? And then after you try this adaptation, do you feel more hungry when you wake.

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Tuesday, November 24, 2020 1:06 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I find I can NOT get to sleep without eating something before bed. It's something I've noticed since I was in my 20's, so, whatever it is, it's been going on a long time. I need to figure out what that should be - that'll trigger whatever it needs to trigger so I can sleep, but not be a calorie bomb. So far, I figured out a cup of warm broth does not do it.

For purely putting me to sleep purposes, I find that root beer float, or hot chocolate, grapes, or wine work well for me. As a treat, add a shot of Amaretto t the hot chocolate, which is called a Hot Chocolate Bon Bon.

For late night hunger, I know that a can of mandarin orange will satisfy my hunger, but that normally provides a bunch of energy to me.
Other food I have taken late are can of peaches, beans, cream soups (mushroom, chicken, potato, broccoli), squash, chicken noodle soup, salad, baked potto, cranberry sauce.

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Tuesday, November 24, 2020 1:22 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
JSF - there's a lot I haven't kept up on regarding arterial plaque (which leads to calcification), and a lot I've forgotten. But I doesn't just settle on arterial walls like snow on a sidewalk, deposits end up in lumps that actually grow and invade the CVS tissues, from the lining of the CVS walls (the intima) and into the surrounding CVS wall itself (the media).

Last I knew, a predictor of CVS 'event' was the thickness of your arterial walls (media) as measured in your carotid artery by ultrasound, but I don't know the basis for that, or if it's a theory-less useful observation.

If I understand you, the arterial plaque builds up first, and then calcification sets in.

I had thought that plaque alone would cause hardening of the aerteries, perhaps I'm wrong.

Niacin daily just in time release was not what I had in mind.
I am talking about non-time release niacin, which gives a flush. The flush is a perceived hot sensation because the niacin expands the arteries and capillaries, and the temperature sensors are in the dermis, where many capillaries are.
For someone about 100 pounds, 100 milligrams can be enough to produce this flush. When I was 270, I think 3 or 4 tablets of 100 mg were right. Around 200 pounds I think 300 mg is about right. The flush is delayed about 10 minutes up to an hour, and lasts between 2-20 minutes, depending upon stomach contents. I flushing in this way, move your joints around to improve circulation to them, and massage bruises to flush out the stagnant blood there, etc.
Anyhow, this expansion of the arteries and capillaries is similar to what happens with exercise, but taking a pill is less strenuous. Either way, the flexing of the arterial walls makes it more difficult for plaque to establish hold.
Also, for people who are always feeling cold (which mostly seems to be women), this usually remedies that problem. I've known women who have been asking their doctors for years how to combat this, and they came up with drugs which did not work, or surgeries which the women knew enough not to have. But getting the flush solved their problems - one coworker di them for a winter, then next winter forgot how she solved it, was cold again, and after 2 flushes was warm the entire winter, even on her ski lift chair in the wind, and she put her electric blanket into storage.

I have never heard of how this affects calcification.

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Sunday, November 29, 2020 2:20 AM

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I am talking about non-time release niacin, which gives a flush.
This is the niacin this person was taking. It was SPECIFICALLY compounded as "fast acting" and rx'd specifically to promote flushing. It apparently has NO positive effect on cardiac events altho it raises "good" cholesterol.

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