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Food quality, dietary habits, and health

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Friday, November 20, 2020 2:42 AM

Vitamin K2 update:

So while there are a lot of studies indicating that vitamin K2 is important for health ("People in the highest quintile of K2 blood concentration had the lowest incidence of coronary artery disease and blah, blah, blah...") none of the studies showed much (if any) benefit from K2 supplementation.

So either K2 is a marker for some yet-unrecognized co-factor (like beta-carotene is a marker for alpha-carotene and other carotenoids) or it's possibly related to other factors like gut biome or lifestyle factor.

I will update this with more info as necessary. The reason why this came up is because someone I know ... who has ALWAYS had excellent cholesterol levels and phenomenal "good" cholesterol to total cholesterol ratios as well as a lifelong history of strenuous exercise, has extensive calcium plaque deposition throughout their blood vessels at the same time as osteoporosis. CLEARLY this is not a "good" v "bad" cholesterol matter, but something else entirely.

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Friday, November 20, 2020 3:20 AM


https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/calcification#arteries
Researchers suggest that 90% of men and 67% of women over 70 years of age have coronary artery calcification.

https://www.news-medical.net/health/Calcification-of-the-Arteries.aspx
Arterial calcification is a gradual and progressive process that is seen in most people after the 6th decade of life.

very little at this site
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/aortic-stenosis/expert-
answers/aortic-valve-calcification/faq-20058525

Calcification and stenosis generally affects people older than age 65.

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Friday, November 20, 2020 3:57 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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The Transition Diet was originally intended to bridge the vast differences between the standard American Diet (coffee, donut, cigarette for breakfast, skip lunch, McDonald's for dinner) and most of the specialty of focused Diet Plans, which have more structure and generally assume a better schedule than most folk have.

But so many people (mostly women) started losing so much weight just from it, and they never bothered moving on to the other Diet Plan they had intended.


Let me see if I can recall all of the details. I will likely forget a few.

The general way this works is that it is intended to make a person wake up hungry, so they will eat a large breakfast - and then have the whole day to burn off all the calories. Lunch should also not be skimpy. If you wake up hungry, you probably lost weight while you slept. If you wake up not hungry, your probably packed on some fat cells while you slept. For many sudden dieters, the shocking transition of going to bed hungry defeats their plans of dieting. If somebody cannot get to sleep at night (like due to hunger), this destabilizes the body metabolism, and is also unhealthy.


A. Breakfast. Eat what you want, as much as you want. If you eat a whole cake, fine. Do that enough times, you will tire of cake. This both takes away the denial problem, and helps you realize you really don't like cake/chocolate/fudge/donuts/etc THAT much.

B. Same. Your lunch break may restrict how much time you can spend anyhow.


C. Determine your bedtime. More than 4 hours before you go to bed, same as A & B. If you eat pasta, suggest you do some dancing or exercise afterwards. But most working folk are not going to be able to have a big dinner and still clear 4 hours before bed. Others who do are likely not looking at Diet Plans to manage their bodies.
For the midnight cravings, fresh fruits or veggies may be inconvenient or impractical. Get some canned items you can talk yourself into - peaches, oranges, beets, whatever seems interesting, keep them in your cupbord during this Diet.

D. 4 hours before bedtime. Only the following items, as much of them as you want. This includes midnight snacking, cravings, nervous/anxious hunger.

1. Any salad except pasta. Lettuce, chicken salad, egg salad, fruit salad, potato salad, etc. Any toppings you want on your lettuce salad.

2. Any fruits, fresh or canned.

3. Any Vegetables, fresh or canned, cooked.

4. Any nuts, including cashews.

5. Any potato form, except chips (deep fried). Baked, hashed, scalloped, whatever. Any toppings on them.

6. Popcorn, with any toppings.

7. Any soups.

8. Any meats as sole entrees. Meat dishes with pasta, bread, etc. not included.


Now, obviously, your romantic dinners will not fit this schedule. Any reasonable person knows that skipping one or two nights per week of your diet will not help you lose week rapidly, but your results are in accordance with your adherence. Not too complicated.


The idea of these items before going to sleep is that they provide nutrients, vitamins, minerals, some protein, but not excessive calories just before you become dormant and unable to burn them off. If you wake up hungry, you were successful. The heavier stuff needs 4 hours or so to burn off or pass through - you don't want cake and frosting sitting in your gut while you sleep all night. Popcorn and potatoes are included because they generally fill you up faster than you can really stuff yourself with.


I hope I remembered it all. Does that make sense?

Yep, makes sense. But it is far more food than I can eat and not gain weight. I DO restrict my before bedtime eating, but alos restrict my eating throughout the day.

As people get older their metabolism slows down, growth hormone reduces, and activities might be limited by arthritis or other health issues. Also, men have a natural advantage in that they tend to build muscle while women put on fat.

So makes sense for some, but n

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Friday, November 20, 2020 3:58 AM

I limited my salt and sugar intake. No artificial sweetners at all. Try to get as much water as I can.

I pretty well graze most of the day because of my low blood sugar.

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Friday, November 20, 2020 4:22 AM


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It is not really a volume thing, but a schedule thing. And restriction during the key hours. The rest is to reduce anxiety.
I think the issue is that eating as much as you want of whatever you want is too much for Signy, even WITH a time limit - because - by experience, it leads to weight gain.

I know for a fact it's too much for me as well. I too limit my 'eating hours', but I must limit my eating both by type and amount of food because, by experience, I know that doing otherwise leads to weight gain.

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Friday, November 20, 2020 8:35 AM

Figured this is as good a place as any to put it.

I know now first hand that there is credence to the idea that if you gain an allergy to something by overusing it, that if you give it 6 or more months that you might not be allergic to it anymore.

The Cajun spice that I had to stop using because it started giving me hives is now edible again.


DISCLAIMER: I'm not a doctor. Try it at your own risk.




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Saturday, November 21, 2020 1:59 AM

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It is not really a volume thing, but a schedule thing. And restriction during the key hours. The rest is to reduce anxiety.

I think the issue is that eating as much as you want of whatever you want is too much for Signy, even WITH a time limit - because - by experience, it leads to weight gain.

I know for a fact it's too much for me as well. I too limit my 'eating hours', but I must limit my eating both by type and amount of food because, by experience, I know that doing otherwise leads to weight gain.

Let me backtrack briefly.
Although this diet has worked, I am told, for many different women, including "older" - I would not consider them "elderly"
The "unlimited" aspect is geared towards younger folk who have not yet mastered their food discipline. As people mature, it is reasonable to assume various restrictions will be found. Certainly conform this diet concept to whatever your known peculiarities are.

The overarching concepts:
Wake up hungry.
Your largest meal should be breakfast. You have all day to burn off the calories, assuming you are not napping.
Your 2nd largest meal should be lunch.
Any extravagant Dinner you have should not be less than 4 hours before your bedtime. If it is closer to your bedtime, there are no penalty points, it is just more difficult to achieve weight loss, unless you are dancing or exercising following this heavy meal. Yes, adquately vigorous sex does count as exercise.
In the remaining 4 hours before bedtime, only eat when you must, to eaxe anxiety, and with restricted foods.

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Saturday, November 21, 2020 2:08 AM


Oh - OK. It's more understandable now!

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Saturday, November 21, 2020 3:24 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/calcification#arteries
Researchers suggest that 90% of men and 67% of women over 70 years of age have coronary artery calcification.

https://www.news-medical.net/health/Calcification-of-the-Arteries.aspx
Arterial calcification is a gradual and progressive process that is seen in most people after the 6th decade of life.

very little at this site
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/aortic-stenosis/expert-
answers/aortic-valve-calcification/faq-20058525

Calcification and stenosis generally affects people older than age 65.

Ummm... I would like to claridy:

If someone's cholesterol has always been below 200 and their "good" to "bad" ratio is better than 1:3 (sometimes as good as 1:1) ... in other words probably better than 95% of adult population of ANY age ... and your calcification is WORSE than 95% of your age- and sex-matched population .... occupying either end of the respective bell curves ... something else is going on.

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Saturday, November 21, 2020 3:39 AM


From what I've gathered over the years, CVS calcification isn't ONLY related to cholesterol deposits. Any time you have a micro-tear in the intima (the lining of the CVS which hides the raw tissue of the CVS walls from the clotting factors in the bloodstream) you can get calcification. (You need to hide tissues, even CVS tissues, from blood in general because exposing blood clotting factors to raw tissue activates clotting factors. The intima is like a teflon lining in your CVS.)

How cholesterol feeds into that is that cholesterol deposits cause areas of CVS damage, which causes calcification. But cholesterol isn't the only way to cause CVS damage. High pulse pressure can also damage the CVS iirc, though I haven't looked into that specifically.

And calcification can occur in many places in the body - breast, kidney, joints, and so on - usually due to inflammation or damage. Also, calcifications can be an indicator of kidney malfunction.

Anyway, I did search through the Mayo site thoroughly, and looked at every 'calcification' link it had, because I trust* it a lot. But they had nothing on CVS calcification specifically. (* I have vetted the info in the past, or know it from academic or personal knowledge or experience)

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