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Election fallout

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Monday, November 9, 2020 4:36 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Whatever. You're stuck with supporting "Trump Plans to Barricade Himself in the Oval Office and Refuse to Come Out If Biden Wins.".

"Whatever" does not describe all the things Trump refuses to do. Trump will continue his laissez-faire approach to the pandemic. He won't spend an estimated $9 billion allocated for Covid-19 testing despite the urging of public health figures like Anthony Fauci and Deborah Birx. Trump’s disinterest in confronting the pandemic only seemed to grow after he was hospitalized with the virus in October, when he repeatedly told supporters on the campaign trail that the nation was “rounding the corner” and asserted that a vaccine would be imminent. As the nation braces for a dark winter, that disinterest could be one of the virus’s greatest allies. MAGA, 1kiki!

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, November 9, 2020 6:04 PM



They're going to start shooting people. Be careful.


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Monday, November 9, 2020 7:09 PM



Read it in David Attenborough's voice.

Trump's filed 10 suits, now. All were thrown out.


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Monday, November 9, 2020 9:55 PM




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Tuesday, November 10, 2020 12:22 AM

Trump Refuses to Authorize Biden Transition Planning

A Trump administration appointee is refusing to sign a letter allowing President-elect Joe Biden’s transition team to formally begin its work this week, in another sign the incumbent president has not acknowledged Biden’s victory and could disrupt the transfer of power.

….But by Sunday evening, almost 36 hours after media outlets projected Biden as the winner, GSA Administrator Emily Murphy had written no such letter. And the Trump administration, in keeping with the president’s failure to concede the election, has no immediate plans to sign one.

….The delay has implications both practical and symbolic. By declaring the “apparent winner” of a presidential election, the GSA administrator releases computer systems and money for salaries and administrative support for the mammoth undertaking of setting up a new government — $9.9 million this year.

Transition officials get government email addresses. They get office space at every federal agency. They can begin to work with the Office of Government Ethics to process financial disclosure and conflict-of-interest forms for their nominees. And they get access to senior officials, both political appointees of the outgoing administration and career civil servants, who relay an agency’s ongoing priorities and projects, upcoming deadlines, problem areas and risks. The federal government is a $4.5 trillion operation, and while the Biden team is not new to government, the access is critical, experts said. This is all on hold for now.

https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2020/11/trump-refuses-to-author
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, November 10, 2020 12:56 AM

Obiden has rushed to form a Covid Task Force yesterday, so he can take credit for the Covid vaccines that Trump accoplished.



I heard that Obiden has offerred the HHS Sec job to Mitt Romney, so even more RomneyCare can be forced upon America. If accepted, the Senate will be short and Obiden can push through whatever bills he wants, before a special electin can be scheduled.

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Tuesday, November 10, 2020 1:10 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Obiden has rushed to form a Covid Task Force yesterday, so he can take credit for the Covid vaccines that Trump accomplished.

Trump accomplished nothing: Pence breaks silence to take credit for Pfizer vaccine - and Pfizer immediately denies Trump involved

Pfizer has clarified that the US government was not involved in their development of a Covid-19 vaccine
www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/mike-pence-
covid-vaacine-pfizer-b1719698.html


Dr Kathrin Jansen, Pfizer’s head of vaccine development, told the New York Times: “We were never part of the Warp Speed ... We have never taken any money from the US government, or from anyone.”

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, November 10, 2020 11:48 PM

BACK TO THE TOPIC AT HAND

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One clear outcome of the U.S. election was the collapse of the promised ‘Blue Wave’ – an implosion that marks the ‘beginning of the end’ to a powerful spell enthralling the West. It was the delusion which Ron Chernow, the acclaimed U.S. presidential historian, gave credence, as he contemptuously dismissed America’s “topsy-turvy moment” as purely ephemeral, and a “surreal interlude in American life”: No longer can it be said that there is one ‘normal’. Win or lose the White House, Red Trumpism remains as ‘President’ for half America.

Biden, by contrast, served as the prospect for Restoration – a return to a hallowed consensus in American politics – to a reassuring ‘sanity’ of facts, science and truth. Biden, it was hoped, would be the agency over-lording a crushing electoral landslide that would terminate irrevocably Trump’s rude interruption of the ‘normal’. Biden supporters were rallied, Mike Lind, the American academic and author has observed, around the idea of America moving toward a ‘managed’ society – based on ‘science’ – that would be essentially finessed and controlled by a managerial, expert class.

Over time, Lind suggests, American society would begin to depart more, and more easily, from its republican roots, through a process already underway: via attempts to alter the Constitutional order, and other rules, to bring about a change in the way America is governed.

The notion however, of what America – as Idea – now constitutes, has fractured into two tectonic plates, moving apart in very different directions – and likely to move even further apart as each ‘plate’ remains convinced that ‘it won’ – and the sweetness of victory has been stolen.

And it's not as if populism is a "siginificant minority" (eg 30%); this very close to a 50:50 spilt. But Biden will try to buy off the "deplorable" 50% with some sort of minor payoff, is my guess.

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The fracturing of the ‘One Normal’, by contrast, provides some kind of respite to much of the globe.

The fact remains that the election has produced a result in which it is abundantly clear that one half of the American electorate precisely voted to oust the other half. It is gridlock – with the Supreme Court and Senate in the hands of one party, and the House of Representatives and White House (possibly) in the hands of the other. As Glenn Greenwald warns:

No matter what the final result, there will be substantial doubts about its legitimacy by one side or the other, perhaps both. And no deranged conspiracy thinking is required for that. An electoral system suffused with this much chaos, error, protracted outcomes and seemingly inexplicable reversals will sow doubt and distrust even among the most rational citizens.

Though the maths and maps suggests Biden will likely reach 270 Electoral votes, the old saying ‘It ain’t over ’till it’s over’, holds true. The electoral vote scenarios in the key ‘swing states’ would only apply if there is no litigation, fraud or theft. However all three are in play – If you are stuffing the ballot box, you first wait to see what the regular vote is, so that you know how many votes you ‘need’ (mathematical anomalies aside) to push your candidate over the top. Trump, somewhat rashly, gave out the GOP vote calculations at 02.30 on Wednesday, and hey-presto, loads of absentee ballots suddenly arrived at certain polling stations at around 04.00. That seems to have happened in Wisconsin, where over 100,000 Biden votes appeared seemingly out of nowhere on a flash drive delivered by hand from a Democratic district. That put Biden ahead in Wisconsin – but litigation is in process. Likewise, it appears that a huge “absentee ballot” dump appeared in Michigan that heavily favored Biden.

A FLASH DRIVE? SERIOUSLY???

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This is just the beginning of a new and more uncertain pha

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Wednesday, November 11, 2020 12:15 AM

Nonetheless, and despite the huge odds against success, I believe that it's more important now than ever that Americans of all political stripes come together to represent their interests, and find common ground on which to move foreward.

After all, we all want the same things: A safe place to live; meaningful work; agency over our individual and collective futures; support in illness, extreme youth and old age; justice under the law; and protection from tyranny (economic or political).

What that means, exactly, and how we get there is where we differ. But I believe there is a "union set" ... area where we overlap... and we can find those areas by honest and rational discussion.

It's going to be hard work. Are you up for it?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

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Wednesday, November 11, 2020 8:39 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Nonetheless, and despite the huge odds against success, I believe that it's more important now than ever that Americans of all political stripes come together to represent their interests, and find common ground on which to move foreward.

After all, we all want the same things: A safe place to live; meaningful work; agency over our individual and collective futures; support in illness, extreme youth and old age; justice under the law; and protection from tyranny (economic or political).

What that means, exactly, and how we get there is where we differ. But I believe there is a "union set" ... area where we overlap... and we can find those areas by honest and rational discussion.

It's going to be hard work. Are you up for it?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

Russian trolls gonna troll.

I do appreciate that you know Biden won. So, STFU.


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