Some Covid-19 thoughts
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UPDATED: Monday, September 29, 2025 18:59
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Originally posted by THG:
Deaths___230,176___+1,290
DAY 301, 2020
US Deaths per day: 7,808
US Deaths so far in 2020: 2,350,208
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Deaths:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Mid November? So you admit that you have failed at your massive push to kill a 1/4 Million by Election Day? Your Trollkeeper should fire you for sucking at Troll.
Originally posted by THG:
Poor Jack. His critical thinking skills are so lacking, he's left incapable of reading into the point I was making. Close enough, and with losses of a thousand a day we're pretty much there. Probably by mid November. As I've said, it didn't need to be.
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232,147. Getting closer to 250,000. By January 20, 2021 it will closer to 500,000.
www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
Cumulatively, 511,373 (469,578–578,347) lives could be lost to COVID-19 across the United States by 28 February 2021.
www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-1132-9
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
None of those numbers mean a goddamned thing until we have the full Death Count by all causes.
Nothing but political posturing at this point, and a means to scare and control the population as it has since the very beginning.
All of the so-called Covid deaths in the country are still not even 10% of total deaths in the country this year and fall well within the plausible realm of "were mostly going to die anyhow".
This ain't Cap'n Tripps.
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Quote:How many deaths by Covid-19 is a meaningful number? What is that number, 6ix? Forever after, when there is disaster that kills fewer than 6ix's number, 6ix can write that it wasn't big enough to count as anything other than insignificant.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
None of those numbers mean a goddamned thing until we have the full Death Count by all causes.
Nothing but political posturing at this point, and a means to scare and control the population as it has since the very beginning.
All of the so-called Covid deaths in the country are still not even 10% of total deaths in the country this year and fall well within the plausible realm of "were mostly going to die anyhow".
This ain't Cap'n Tripps.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
6ix's "Cap'n Tripps" is Captain Trips, a fictional disease from the novel The Stand. The plot centers on a pandemic of a weaponized strain of influenza that kills almost the entire world population.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stand#Plot
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:
How many deaths by Covid-19 is a meaningful number? What is that number, 6ix?
You can't even quantify a meaningful number while we're working with huge chunks of data missing and the current number is far below the amount of average deaths in the country on a yearly basis.
Right now, there is not even CLOSE to the amount of deaths by Covid as we regularly see for natural causes and/or bad habits in our country every year, and a vast majority of those who have died of Covid were of or past the average age expectancy and/or suffered from one or more comorbidities.
Without giving any actual numbers, I'd say that until conclusive data about actual death counts comes out for 2020, there would be absolutely no reason to give these numbers a second thought until they were at least approaching the typical death count for disease and/or old age related deaths in America. Clearly, we're not even close to that right now.
My prediction isn't that Covid is going to mysteriously vanish overnight after the election as if the virus never existed at all. But just like SARS and MERS and Bird Flu, the Legacy Media coverage of it will.
There's no there, there. And if they continue the non-stop coverage of it over the next few years once the real data comes out and the numbers don't back up any of the claims, people are just going to tune it out. Some of them may even remember how much they've been lied to all of 2020 about it too.
The Covid narrative is great for selling Car Insurance and Boner Pills, but more importantly it's a partisan hack job thrust upon us by a Legacy Media who has never been as biased as it is in 2020, because up until this point, nothing they've thrown at Trump has worked.
And next week I'll get to laugh and tell you that this didn't work either.
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Quote:It was only two plane loads of people who died, 346 people, but every government in the world forbid the Boeing 737 MAX from flying for years. Boeing laid off thousands of employees. Billions of dollars were lost by Boeing and the airlines. There is a number of deaths, when that the number is exceeded, huge economic consequences will follow. In the case of Covid-19, that number was exceeded. What is your number, 6ix? Is it millions? How many?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
How many deaths by Covid-19 is a meaningful number? What is that number, 6ix?
You can't even quantify a meaningful number while we're working with huge chunks of data missing and the current number is far below the amount of average deaths in the country on a yearly basis.
Right now, there is not even CLOSE to the amount of deaths by Covid as we regularly see for natural causes and/or bad habits in our country every year, and a vast majority of those who have died of Covid were of or past the average age expectancy and/or suffered from one or more comorbidities.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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An obit for hundreds of thousands of South Americans lost to COVID.
Trump had a lot to do with that.
How Trump And Bolsonaro Broke Latin America’s Covid-19 Defenses
The two presidents drove out 10,000 Cuban doctors and nurses. They defunded the region’s leading health agency. They wrongly pushed hydroxychloroquine as a cure.
The coronavirus was gathering lethal speed when President Trump met his Brazilian counterpart, Jair Bolsonaro, on March 7 for dinner at Mar-a-Lago. Mr. Bolsonaro had canceled trips that week to Italy, Poland and Hungary, and Brazil’s health minister had urged him to stay away from Florida, too.
But Mr. Bolsonaro insisted, eager to burnish his image as the “Trump of the Tropics.” His grinning aides posed at the president’s resort in green “Make Brazil Great Again” hats. Mr. Trump declared he was “not concerned at all” before walking Mr. Bolsonaro around the club shaking hands.
Twenty-two people in Mr. Bolsonaro’s delegation tested positive for the virus after returning to Brazil, yet he was not alarmed. Mr. Trump had shared a cure, Mr. Bolsonaro told advisers: a box of the anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine, the unproven treatment that Mr. Trump was then promoting as a remedy for Covid-19.
“He said the trip was wonderful, that they had a great time, that life was normal at Mar-a-Lago, everything was cured, and that hydroxychloroquine was the medicine that was supposed to be used,” recalled the health minister, Luiz Henrique Mandetta, who was fired by Mr. Bolsonaro the next month for opposing reliance on the drug.
“From that time on, it was very hard to get him to take the science seriously.”
The Mar-a-Lago dinner, which would become infamous for spreading infection, cemented a partnership between Mr. Trump and Mr. Bolsonaro rooted in a shared disregard for the virus. But even before the dinner, the two presidents had waged an ideological campaign that would undermine Latin America’s ability to respond to Covid-19.
Together, the two men, fierce opponents of Latin America’s leftists, took aim at Cuba’s great pride: the doctors it sends around the world. Mr. Trump and Mr. Bolsonaro drove 10,000 Cuban doctors and nurses out of impoverished areas of Brazil, Ecuador, Bolivia and El Salvador. Many left without being replaced only months before the pandemic arrived.
Then, the two leaders attacked the international agency most capable of fighting the virus — the Pan-American Health Organization, or PAHO — citing its involvement with the Cuban medical program. With help from Mr. Bolsonaro, Mr. Trump nearly bankrupted the agency by withholding promised funding at the height of the outbreak, to an extent not previously disclosed.
And with help from Mr. Trump, Mr. Bolsonaro has made hydroxychloroquine the centerpiece of Brazil’s pandemic response, despite a medical consensus that the drug is ineffective and even dangerous. The Food and Drug Administration warned last April against most uses of the drug to treat Covid-19. A month later, Mr. Trump announced after a phone call with Mr. Bolsonaro that the United States would send Brazil two million doses.
Weak health systems and overcrowded cities made Latin America inherently vulnerable. But by driving out doctors, blocking assistance, and pushing false cures, Mr. Trump and Mr. Bolsonaro made a bad situation worse, dismantling defenses.
Now Latin America, with a third of the world’s deaths, has suffered more acutely from Covid-19 than any other region.
Much more at www.nytimes.com/2020/10/27/world/trump-bolsonaro-coronavirus-latin-ame
rica.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:
What is your number, 6ix? Is it millions? How many?
I already answered our question. I won't repeat myself. But feel completely free to read my reply again.
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Quote:Let me translate from 6ix's bullshit into engineering speech. 6ixish bullshit: "Without giving any actual numbers, I'd say that until conclusive data about actual death counts comes out for 2020, there would be absolutely no reason to give these numbers a second thought until they were at least approaching the typical death count for disease and/or old age related deaths in America. Clearly, we're not even close to that right now."
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
What is your number, 6ix? Is it millions? How many?
I already answered our question. I won't repeat myself. But feel completely free to read my reply again.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
The translation of 6ix's bullshit into real life: For the Boeing 737 MAX, only 346 people had to die before that plane was grounded. In 2018, a total of 2,839,205 resident deaths were registered in the United States. If 6ix was in charge of grounded airplanes, 2,839,205 would die on the 737 MAX before it was grounded.
Mortality in the United States, 2018
www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db355.htm
I realize that 6ix might not understand that it is impossible to die in a 737 MAX crash if all 737 MAX aircraft are grounded. If you cannot tell the difference between a MAX and a Boeing 737 Classic/Next Generation, then you are incompetent or Trump. Likewise, it is also impossible to catch & die from Covid-19 if all Covid-19 disease carriers are quarantined. Quarantined is equivalent to grounded. If you cannot tell the difference between a Covid-19 carrier and non-carrier, it is because you are Trump who doesn't want Covid-19 testing since testing makes you look bad. By the way, Trump wanted to rebrand the MAX with a new name.
Trump rebranded Covid-19 to Chinese Flu / Kung Flu / Wuhan Flu. Where did that idea come from?
“What do I know about branding, maybe nothing (but I did become President!), but if I were Boeing, I would FIX the Boeing 737 MAX, add some additional great features, & REBRAND the plane with a new name. No product has suffered like this one. But again, what the hell do I know?” -- ‘Rebrand’ the Boeing 737 Max? Who is Trump trying to trick?
www.theguardian.com/books/2019/apr/18/word-of-the-week-rebrand
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Deaths___231,033___+857
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12 ways the Trump administration botched America's response to Covid-19
The White House Office of Science and Technology Policy has just listed "ending the Covid-19 pandemic" as an administration achievement; however, the epidemic continues to worsen. A number of administration errors have led to the current dire circumstances.
We all know what a error in medicine looks like. A surgeon performs a procedure and leaves an instrument inside a patient; that is an obvious medical error. But in public health, what constitutes a mistake is a bit more elusive since there are often multiple stakeholders and decision makers charting a course for an entire population.
Sometimes you can pinpoint a public health error (the crisis of lead in the drinking water in Flint, Michigan, being a clear example). But mostly the responsibility becomes more diffuse and harder to gauge.
More about the 12 ways the Trump administration botched America's response to Covid-19 at
www.cnn.com/2020/10/29/opinions/ways-trump-botched-covid-response-holt
grave/index.html
The article ends with this sound advice: Just like surgeons go to great lengths to avoid leaving instruments inside of patients, we must avoid errors in public health. With either type of error, the outcomes can be deadly and in public health the devastation can be even more widespread.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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