UPN has passed on Firefly

POSTED BY: spav
UPDATED: Sunday, January 12, 2003 04:50
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SDSOUTHARD

Friday, January 10, 2003 10:48 PM

Hi, this is my first posting, but I am a fan of Firefly and the work of Joss Whedon.

A lot of what we are experiencing reminds me of a similar fight for a show called Cupid. Does anyone remember that? It starred Jeremy Piven and Paula Marshall and was out in 1999. It had a strong small fanbase and was very well-reviewed. The problem is ABC put it on Saturday night at 9 and it got lousy ratings. Then they moved it to Thursday against Seinfeld and the show died. There was a big mailing and newspaper campaign, but nothing happened. If you do a search on aintitcool.com, you can read a few postings by Herc about the campaign and his thoughts on it.

The reason I bring up Cupid is that like Cupid, Firefly leaves with no feeling of closure for the fan. There are two many unanswered questions and we, as viewers, feel cheated. It's like picking up a great book and having the last 40 pages missing.

I hope that this campaign to get Firefly back is successful, I definitely want to know what Joss was thinking with the characters. But with the avid attempt of the Farscape fan and nothing happening there, you can't help but feel that executives don't listen as much as they claim to. And I don't think we could ever hope to do more than those Farscape fans.

REYVNDARKNIGHT

Friday, January 10, 2003 11:05 PM

Oh yeah. That's the ticket. Let's try to get a network that has already made one seriously bad decision on probably the best sci-fi series (cancellation of Farscape) to make a decision about Firefly.

BROLAN

Friday, January 10, 2003 11:14 PM

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Originally posted by ReyvnDarKnight:
Oh yeah. That's the ticket. Let's try to get a network that has already made one seriously bad decision on probably the best sci-fi series (cancellation of Farscape) to make a decision about Firefly.

It's called desperation.

LIVINGIMPAIRED

Saturday, January 11, 2003 12:22 AM

Hey, SciFi may have cancelled Farscape, and therefore suck. And if they get Firefly, they may very well cancell that too. But if SciFi picks it up, and they make even one more episode of FF, then it's one episode more than we have now, and that's worth it.

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GALLAHAN

Saturday, January 11, 2003 12:33 AM

Sci-Fi channel may be the only answer but have you read about JMS, the creator of Babylon 5 dealings with Sci-Fi on a potential new series? They passed on what was they said was the best written of their projects in development because in JMS's words it was a "little too science fictiony, when they were looking to go for ideas that had more immediate mainstream appeal." They instead are developing a series about intergalactic vampires. I truthfully don't see much hope here folks. Of course maybe I'm just too much of a pessimist.

DELVO

Saturday, January 11, 2003 1:43 AM

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because of UPN and 20th Century Fox's critical ties, UPN was "Firefly's" best chance to survive.

Not at all; if UPN's as beholden to Fox as you say, then Fox would be expected to order UPN to be their accomplices in the destruction of a show that Fox chose to destroy.

As for Sci-Fi, that's a bad decision by whoever's making these decisions. If it's not proven yet that Sci-Fi is against science fiction, then it's not proven that the sky is blue. This isn't something about which there can be ANY doubt. It's not just about Farscape. They won't have anything to do with the entire genre. Better to try pitching the show to someplace where it has at least a miniscule chance of being taken.

SUINEGAGPF

Saturday, January 11, 2003 2:49 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by ReyvnDarKnight:
Oh yeah. That's the ticket. Let's try to get a network that has already made one seriously bad decision on probably the best sci-fi series (cancellation of Farscape) to make a decision about Firefly.

Yeah, but think of the irony...
(Besides 20th is only pitching FF as a mini-series or movie. Apparently, Sci-Fi must not be interested in anything that takes longer than one week to show?)

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HKCAVALIER

Saturday, January 11, 2003 3:02 AM

I have a couple things to add here. First of all, seems to me us fans arguing about where Joss should shop the show is pretty pointless. I figure he's at least as savvy about the different networks and their interest in sci-fi as any of us. We alone are not going to get Firefly picked up by anyone. We're here to give Joss whatever juice a small and dedicated fan base can muster.

Also, TV networks are buying and selling art. Really, they really are. The fundamental reason anyone buys or passes on a work of art is simple: they like it, or they don't. Yes, they want to know that the art will sell well, but there is always risk and any network will take that risk for something they believe in. Firefly is not likely to be sold to a network as a guaranteed cash-cow. Firefly is going to be sold to a network because that network believes in Firefly. Our belief in Firefly, therefore, has some juice. We have no juice if it's a purely dollars and cents decission.

It's just my opinion, o' course, but all this arguing about where to send the show and all this cynicism about what a bunch o' morons people are is getting to me.

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

MELEE

Saturday, January 11, 2003 3:43 AM

*sigh* I guess I'd be happy with a mini-series or movie... but... I'd much prefer andother season or two.

JEFFNS

Saturday, January 11, 2003 5:39 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by HKCavalier:
I have a couple things to add here. First of all, seems to me us fans arguing about where Joss should shop the show is pretty pointless. I figure he's at least as savvy about the different networks and their interest in sci-fi as any of us. We alone are not going to get Firefly picked up by anyone. We're here to give Joss whatever juice a small and dedicated fan base can muster.

Also, TV networks are buying and selling art. Really, they really are. The fundamental reason anyone buys or passes on a work of art is simple: they like it, or they don't. Yes, they want to know that the art will sell well, but there is always risk and any network will take that risk for something they believe in. Firefly is not likely to be sold to a network as a guaranteed cash-cow. Firefly is going to be sold to a network because that network believes in Firefly. Our belief in Firefly, therefore, has some juice. We have no juice if it's a purely dollars and cents decission.

It's just my opinion, o' course, but all this arguing about where to send the show and all this cynicism about what a bunch o' morons people are is getting to me.

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

HKCavalier is quite right when he says that the tone of the posts here starting to become a little irksome. This tone is becoming rather more strident and negative as time goes on. There is no question but that there is more than enough regret to go around, and then some. But perhaps its time to stop venting and start inventing, at least as far as what we can do to help keep the show high profile in the minds of those people making the decisions about it.
That's all for now, I have to go write some more postcards. *L*

There's no place
I can be
since I found
Serenity.

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