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Monday, August 10, 2020 9:26 AM

https://www.businessinsider.com/what-americans-always-get-wrong-about-
british-people-2018-4


Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, August 10, 2020 9:57 AM


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Here is a cultural divide for you: While 81 percent of Democrats said they’d get vaccinated if a free, FDA-approved Covid-19 vaccine were available, only 47 percent of Republicans said the same. Independents are in the middle with 59 percent saying they would accept the vaccine.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/08/one-in-three-americans-dec
line-free-covid-coronavirus-vaccine.html


You can find the same divide with displaying Confederate flags, statues to General Lee, BLM, abortion, evolution, climate change, etc.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

What does that have to do with why DEMOCRATS have lost support in counties, states, and Congress over the decades?


https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/interactives/party-id-trend/

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Monday, August 10, 2020 7:03 PM

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THG
Monday, August 10, 2020 9:33 PM

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Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.


Trump's COVID-19 executive actions spark confusion, raise legal and constitutional questions

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Monday, August 10, 2020 11:51 PM

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Originally posted by reaverfan:




What's your point?

You want to get rid of all capital and give control of everything to the government because you're under some crazy delusion that they will be benevolent and take care of everybody.


Labor is indeed superior to capital. At least in a perfect world it is.

But we have a very long list of human experiments that show that without capital to go alongside of labor ends in slavery, a complete lack of liberty, countless deaths and revolution.

You don't get to pick and choose what meaning you want to out of a Lincoln quote. This is real life. This isn't MSNBC.

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Monday, August 10, 2020 11:54 PM

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Originally posted by THG:
T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.


Trump's COVID-19 executive actions spark confusion, raise legal and constitutional questions



Hey. For once Ted posts something I'm not in disagreement with.


Let's force all of the governors of each state that have passed unconstitutional mandates in the last 4 months to repeal them immediately and put in safeguards that won't allow them to ever do that again, then we'll do the same to Trump.

Executive orders were always a problem, but fucking GWB gave them a super dose of steroids and Obama gave them booster shots while keeping the seat warm for Trump.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, August 11, 2020 5:24 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

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Here is a cultural divide for you: While 81 percent of Democrats said they’d get vaccinated if a free, FDA-approved Covid-19 vaccine were available, only 47 percent of Republicans said the same. Independents are in the middle with 59 percent saying they would accept the vaccine.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/08/one-in-three-americans-dec
line-free-covid-coronavirus-vaccine.html


You can find the same divide with displaying Confederate flags, statues to General Lee, BLM, abortion, evolution, climate change, etc.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

What does that have to do with why DEMOCRATS have lost support in counties, states, and Congress over the decades?

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/interactives/party-id-trend/

Those "Independent" voters are not electing "Independent" politicians. There are 5 (or 3 depending on how you count) "Independent" politicians in Congress. I'm thinking that most Independents are really either voting for a Democrat, a Republican, or they vote in vain for candidates that never win.
https://ballotpedia.org/Current_independent_and_third-party_federal_an
d_state_officeholders


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, August 11, 2020 6:19 AM

But what does that have to do with why DEMOCRATS have lost support in counties, states, and Congress over the decades?


https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/interactives/party-id-trend/

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Tuesday, August 11, 2020 6:58 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
But what does that have to do with why DEMOCRATS have lost support in counties, states, and Congress over the decades?

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/interactives/party-id-trend/

What your data shows is that some Republicans have decided to call themselves "Independents", but I suspect the newest "Independents" keep voting for Republicans. It's the same old people giving themselves a new label, maybe because Mal was an "Independent" on Firefly. But back on Earth, nothing changed and America has been, is, and will be in gridlock until those "Independents" give one party or the other 67 Senators to break the stalemate temporarily. On the next election, or the one after that, America will return to gridlock once neither party has 67 Senators.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, August 11, 2020 5:57 PM

The rational self-interest theory of politics meets Donald Trump

In a rational world, Trump and Senate Republicans would have agreed to a reasonably generous economic relief package along the lines of the HEROES Act approved by the House. Without an extension of the special pandemic unemployment benefits and aid to state and local governments, a humanitarian disaster is inevitable and a macroeconomic disaster a real possibility. Trump’s executive orders are inadequate to prevent mass homelessness and hunger. This will quickly become evident. Layoffs of government workers will mount. How do Trump and Republican members of Congress think they can avoid electoral accountability for the coming train wreck? How will Trump explain breaking off talks and rejecting a much more generous aid package, when it will be obvious that a bigger package was needed? What will Republican Senators say to their constituents? Remember, the party of the president gets the blame for bad outcomes, deserved or not.

Perhaps Senate leader Mitch McConnell feels his position as party leader will be threatened if he tries to move a bill without majority support within his caucus. A few days ago I expressed cautious optimism that Republicans would not try to hobble a Biden presidency by destroying the economy in the run up to the general election. But maybe I was wrong. Or maybe Trump and McConnell are betting that their indifference to suffering will let them get a relief bill without measures to protect the November vote, or with more corporate goodies, or with less overall spending. Whatever is going on, Republicans are playing a dangerous game.

https://angrybearblog.com/2020/08/the-rational-self-interest-theory-of
-politics-meets-donald-trump.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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