Return of the King (dvd box set )
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UPDATED: Tuesday, January 4, 2005 00:09
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Just got done watching both the extended version and the cast commentary of ROTK. I only saw ROTK twice in the theatre, and that was way back when it came out. Amazing. The extended version had so many key parts, imo, that should have made the theatrical cut. This is beyond all others, my favorite of its kind. ( Sorry, Star Wars )
While I consider myself a purest, I appreciate how Peter Jackson was able to tweak the story here and there to get as much of it onto film. Understanding that this is HIS adaptation of Tolkiens work, I had only a few issues with how it all came out.
Minor things I didn't care so much for-
... was when Eowen rides as a soldier, and does little to hide herself from the others, yet no one notices her.
...Denethor and his 1/2 mile dash of flaming death off the top of Minas Tirith. Please.
What I thought was way cool-
... The Mouth of Sauron. That first line he gives " The great Lord Sauron bids thee welcome.." and that goulish,gortesque smile he gives.... wicked!
... The Witch King
... Mumakil!
... Grond!
I'll stop here, or I might not be able to stop later.
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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I totally agree with your Eowyn observation. Was that some kind of continuity boo-boo?
As for Denethor's flaming run, I just remembered how far he had to run just to take his long walk off a short pier. Must have been a half-mile run (on fire!) to take a half-mile no-cord bungee jump.
Also thought the Houses of Healing was too short. Oh well...
I really liked the extra little snippets PJ added in the movie that went unmentioned.
Still, the Battle of Pellenor Fields has got to be one of the best battle sequences EVER. When the Rhohirrim sound out with their horns "announcing" their presence gives me goose bumps every time. And when Gandalf and Frodo say their goodbyes to the other Hobbits, well, still get misty-eyed over that.
Everyone dies alone.
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I have to agree that Denethor's death was pretty unrealistic.
The Witch King sequence was brilliant! Great twist!
There were a lot of other great moments in the movie. The first one that comes to mind is when Aragorn is confronted by the pirates. The "You and who's army?" comment and Aragorn's reply was great!
Seeing Peter Jackson hit by the arrow and Gimli's response was hilarious!
The mouth of Sauron was cool too. It reminded me of Judge Death from 2000AD! Funny and creepy!
The battle of Pellenor Fields was stunning! The level of detail was scary!
I loved seeing the friendly rivalry between Legolas and Gimli continue in part 3.
The only niggle I had was that the scene when Aragorn is reunited with Arwen was too short. It could have been longer.
Frodo's departure was sad. I'll admit I had a lump in my throat watching that.
(Although, I'm not sure if I'll be able to ever watch it in the same light knowing they had to do that scene over and over and over again due to Sean Astin's continuity error. :))
I never saw the movie in the cinema (because I wanted to wait until the Extended DvD release) and I'm not disappointed!
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I loved seeing the friendly rivalry between Legolas and Gimli continue in part 3.
And speaking of those two, how about that line from Gimli after Legolas climbs up the mumakil, shoots a couple of bad guys, swings along the side, cuts the ropes supporting the tower and the rest of the bad guys, kills the mumakil , slides down its trunk, and lands w/ nary a scratch....
That STILL only counts as one! - Gimli.
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Originally posted by The Cos
The only niggle I had was that the scene when Aragorn is reunited with Arwen was too short. It could have been longer.
Oh, and you, my lad, are the singularly most patient being in this 'verse. I mean NOT see it in the theatre AND wait this long to see the extended? Weren't you tempted? Not even once?
Quote:Well... it WAS only one. The fact that it was the equivalent of a couple thousand is entirely irrevelent.
Auraptor said
That STILL only counts as one! - Gimli.
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Originally posted by Channain
Oh, and you, my lad, are the singularly most patient being in this 'verse. I mean NOT see it in the theatre AND wait this long to see the extended? Weren't you tempted? Not even once?
It was hard. :)
Although,I originally saw Two Towers in the cinema then bought the extended DvD. It was distracting 'cause I had two different versions in my head and couldn't watch it properly.
(I didn't want to go through it again with ROTK...)
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Auraptor said
That STILL only counts as one! - Gimli.
Well... it WAS only one. The fact that it was the equivalent of a couple thousand is entirely irrevelent.
CHANNAIN..... Legolas took out 1 mumakil AND like 8 -12 bad guys! Not to pick nits here, but exactly how does that count for only one ?? He single handily took out 2-3 bad guys before cutting the support rope that made the tower fall off the mumakils back. Unless you adhere to some sort of whacky Dwarf math....
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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I meant to say the MUMAKIL counts as one. Obviously the baddies Leggie got before he took the beastie down count as individual hits. I heard him counting them. Gimli didn't want Leggie doing any kind of strange elvish math, trying to count the Mumakil as like, 80, by sheer virtue of its size. One Mumakil = one kill.
Here's the thing. My sister and I play this counting game whenever we drive up together to see the folks. There's a messenger service called "Speedy Delivery" that has a home base well out of the cities. So when we go west in the morning on a weekday, we count vans that are coming east - the numbers usually end up somewhere in the upper 20s. However, they do have semi-tractor trucks, which we count as the equivalent of three regular-size delivery vans. dong ma?
Don't tell me you haven't played slug-bug - the regular person's version of the kill game - or some other counting game on road trips? The fun part is when you start making up rules, then can't remember which ones you made up, or how they apply.
Did I just watch the disc again and pay attention to Gimli's inference when he was talking about the Mumakil? Well, It was a holiday yesterday, wasn't it?
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Originally posted by CosmicFugitive:
The only niggle I had was that the scene when Aragorn is reunited with Arwen was too short. It could have been longer.
I am not disappointed in the shortness of the Aragorn/Arwen reunion scene. It would have been different if we didn't see all the other scenes that PJ added throughout the trilogy to show the romance. I can't stand the added Arwen material so that ruined the character for me.
I love the ROTK:EE though.
As has been mentioned before, the Houses of Healing scenes were too short. I would have loved to see Aragorn healing both Eowyn and Faramir. We know they shot the scene of Aragorn healing Faramir because we have production stills of it.
Otherwise, all added scenes were great!
And as most others, Denethor's death scene is unrealistic. I wonder why they didn't just leave him lying on the pyre?
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Loved the Mouth of Sauron and the demise of Saruman. And I think ROTK:EE was brilliant BUT I was really disappointed that we never got to see the scouring of the shire. The Hobbits uprising was one of the highlights of the book IMHO, and I really wanted to see it on film.
Maybe there should be a third version of the film. What do you think?
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