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Friday, June 19, 2020 5:31 AM
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:Quote:
$100 sounds perfect, as long as the monitor is big enough for you. $160 is good too. I'll just stress again that any monitor you purchase needs to have VGA and HDMI. Outside of that, the only reason you should put any more money into it is if the more expensive one is larger and you want a larger monitor. Any other "frills" outside of the ports and the monitor size will be meaningless for your purposes.
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I've been thinking about your "internet" thing. I'm starting to wonder if you had a modem AND a router on your old setup and no longer have the second thing you used to plug stuff into, and maybe that's where the confusion is coming from. It's possible you upgraded at some point and now have a Router/Modem combination unit (which most of them are these days), and you're looking for the 2nd thing that used to be in between and you don't have (or need) it anymore.
Please check the back of the PC and see if you have that port in the picture above. As long as you have that port than any modern modem that you're using for your internet on your laptop will plug directly into it.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
I did bite the bullet today and buy the $88 one at Walmart. It came out to $105 and some change Canadian. It does have VGA and HDMI. I will deal with it over the weekend as I am in too much pain to do too much bending. Just getting out of my computer chair is a chore.
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Friday, June 19, 2020 5:46 AM
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
There might be one reason that the monitor can't be easily replaced, and that was when PC's were made with that short-lived fad called the VESA local bus (approx 1992). If the PC was built around that time, it may have a non-standard video card. I don't remember what the back of the PC looked like but the VESA connector looks like this. (Looks pretty standard to me, but I can't tell from the picture.)
BRENDA, how old is the PC? Is is back from around 1992-1993?
If not, I agree with SIX and KIKI: Monitor first. You can't find out anything about the PC until you have a monitor. And even if you discover that the PC is dead, you can always use the monitor with a new PC, or even with a laptop
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The PC must be from around 1992 as he was still working then.
Bought new monitor today and will deal with it when I am not in so much pain.
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Friday, June 19, 2020 5:47 AM
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:YAY sunshine!
Originally posted by Brenda:
Out for a walk to check out the cheap monitor and try and talk to someone else in London Drugs about this again.
Also sunshine.
In a way, it's too bad that you don't have a smart phone, bc you could take a picture of the back of your PC and find the right connector for your monitor. Do you have a digital camera?
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Sunshine is great.
SIG, I do not own anything resembling any kind of camera.
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Friday, June 19, 2020 6:03 AM
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
I'm going to take your last post to me bit by bit as I will most likely make a hash of it if I answer it straight out.
If I sound grumpy forgive me, I am in a bit of pain today. Over did it when I got home yesterday and right hip is driving me batty. But things to do.Quote:
No worries. Take your time.
I understand how frustrating things like this can be even if you're not in pain. You didn't have to deal with me while I was dealing with the car. You only read a brief day-by-day synopsis of it with most of the frustration filtered out.
Good. It is. Ah yes, sanitizing your posts. I've been cursing under my breath off and on today because of the pain I am in. And if I am cursing then you know I am in some real pain. I have a fairly high tolerance for it.
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London Drugs is a big chain store up here. You can find them pretty well all across Canada. They are the only drug store that sells stuff like that. The rest of the drug stores stick to magazines, cigarettes, candy, a few toys, some books, bit of food items, cosmetics, non-prescription reading glasses, vitamins, baby stuff and support stuff for walking or fixing your home up if you need help like that. Then they do prescriptions as well.
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Yeah. I get it now. With the other stuff going on in the post I was just thinking to myself that I needed clarification that you weren't talking to a Pharmacist about computer problems.
No offence, but I find that I'm twice as likely to overestimate people's abilities as I am to underestimate them. Glad everything checks out.Quote:
No worries. You probably don't have a real good idea what some stores look like in Canada or what store chains are Canadian even. And some stores are different depending what part of Canada you are in. Because of the lockdown in Western Canada, we just had a 105 year old business I think it was go under. It was called "Army & Navy".
None taken. I know my brain doesn't always work the way I want it to anymore. I sort of accept that and after whenever I started on this again, I think I am now finally starting to understand it all.
I'll just throw a quick list of stuff to tackle on the computer without any explanations involved that you can go back and reference, so we can make the steps clear. Because of your level of computer knowledge, the inability to order stuff online and the potential that your friend won't get back to you in a timely matter, I'm going to avoid suggesting doing anything at this point about troublshooting inside of the case, at least until we have a working monitor.
Since Signy and Kiki are both involved, they may confirm this is a good list.
1. Buy a monitor with both VGA and HDMI outputs.
(Shown in picture below)
2. Verify you have the necessary port on the back of the case for internet. (Highlighted in image below)
IF THE RESULT IS THE COMPUTER NOW BOOTS UP AND YOU CAN SEE IT:
3. See if keyboard and mouse work. If not, we'll replace one or both.
4. Plug in your existing internet cable into the back of the case if you have both the old cable and a place to plug them in. Then we'll get you online.
5. At any point during the process pick up a few USB thumb drives because they're so cheap and you can make multiple backups of all of your work.
IF EITHER THE MONITOR DOESN'T FIX THE PROBLEM, OR YOU DON'T HAVE A WAY TO PLUG IN THE INTERNET:
We'll figure out what to do when we get to that point.
Do Right, Be Right. :)NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Friday, June 19, 2020 7:35 AM
Quote:I feel your pain! Well, not your pain exactly, but I understand how big a bite pain can take out of your life.
Originally posted by Brenda:
No, I didn't but I have bought a new monitor that I will deal with once all the pain I am in is gone. Hopefully the weekend.
Mouse and keyboard are plugged into the tower but don't appear to be functioning.
Blair had several geek friends and I know they helped him when he had problems.
I hope you feel better soon.
I personally had back pain which had me almost unable to move, and I do mean at all, not even able to move my arms and legs. Since then it's been better, then worse ... again; which is where I am now. But a heating pad seems to keep it from getting so bad I'm completely non-functional. I mention it because perhaps that would work well for you, too. However, one does need to make sure to not get burned, which has happened to people I know! Because it's a low(ish) temperature burn, the problem is you don't feel it, and it can do/ has done a lot of damage, creating deep burns.
Signy recommends those chemical heating packs which release a slow, low temp heat (no burn risk) for a long time, at least 8 hours. But the adhesive might not be completely effective, so Signy recommends medical tape, perhaps like the gentle paper tape, as well as elastic wraps like for sprained joints, to keep it in place and make sure it has good skin contact.
If you're like me, every time something like that happens, it's not just painful. And it doesn't just make every little thing one does in life excruciating and take a long, long time. It's very demotivating. It's like you can't count on being able to manage anything, or do anything, from start to finish. Because it happens over, and over, and you know that at any time, you can get laid up from pain. So I hope your optimism and hopes don't suffer from this.
In the absence of being able to do anything physical, perhaps you could use this time to plan and organize your next efforts, at least in your head! Or if your memory is for sh*t like mine, on paper!
Anyway, I hope you feel better soon, Brenda. In the meantime, take good care of yourself. And please let us know how you're doing.
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Friday, June 19, 2020 8:26 AM
Brenda: Pain?
Er... don't try anything complicated when you're in pain! It's as bad as driving drunk, or working dehydrated, or doing anything when sleep-deprived: BAD THINGS HAPPEN.
If there is anything we can do to help, let us know.
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Friday, June 19, 2020 8:32 AM
KIKI: You too? Let me know if I can help!
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Friday, June 19, 2020 9:41 AM
Quote:I feel your pain! Well, not your pain exactly, but I understand how big a bite pain can take out of your life.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
No, I didn't but I have bought a new monitor that I will deal with once all the pain I am in is gone. Hopefully the weekend.
Mouse and keyboard are plugged into the tower but don't appear to be functioning.
Blair had several geek friends and I know they helped him when he had problems.
I hope you feel better soon.
I personally had back pain which had me almost unable to move, and I do mean at all, not even able to move my arms and legs. Since then it's been better, then worse ... again; which is where I am now. But a heating pad seems to keep it from getting so bad I'm completely non-functional. I mention it because perhaps that would work well for you, too. However, one does need to make sure to not get burned, which has happened to people I know! Because it's a low(ish) temperature burn, the problem is you don't feel it, and it can do/ has done a lot of damage, creating deep burns.
Signy recommends those chemical heating packs which release a slow, low temp heat (no burn risk) for a long time, at least 8 hours. But the adhesive might not be completely effective, so Signy recommends medical tape, perhaps like the gentle paper tape, as well as elastic wraps like for sprained joints, to keep it in place and make sure it has good skin contact.
If you're like me, every time something like that happens, it's not just painful. And it doesn't just make every little thing one does in life excruciating and take a long, long time. It's very demotivating. It's like you can't count on being able to manage anything, or do anything, from start to finish. Because it happens over, and over, and you know that at any time, you can get laid up from pain. So I hope your optimism and hopes don't suffer from this.
In the absence of being able to do anything physical, perhaps you could use this time to plan and organize your next efforts, at least in your head! Or if your memory is for sh*t like mine, on paper!
Anyway, I hope you feel better soon, Brenda. In the meantime, take good care of yourself. And please let us know how you're doing.
The pain does take a chunk out of my life. The last time my lower back into my hips felt this bad was a couple of months after I moved into this new place and I decided to move my over 100 year old trunk. The movers had put it under the card table where my laptop is and the lock was facing the wall. It was pretty empty at the time BUT this trunk is solid wood with metal fixtures on it and so even almost completely empty, heavy.
The time before that was in the bad place and I had to change the lightbulbs in the bathroom. I pulled all the muscles on my right side from my neck through my ribs. Getting up and down from my computer chair was miserable for a good couple to several days.
Had a heating pad but it just died and haven't got another one. I do have a hot water bottle that I might use tonight around my right hip.
So, I've been moving pretty slow today and will be tomorrow I would imagine.
Organizing my next move is what I am doing and working on another Firefly story that I started a few days ago. I posted the first part.
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Friday, June 19, 2020 9:44 AM
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Brenda: Pain?
Er... don't try anything complicated when you're in pain! It's as bad as driving drunk, or working dehydrated, or doing anything when sleep-deprived: BAD THINGS HAPPEN.
If there is anything we can do to help, let us know.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
#WEARAMASK
Yes, Sig. Me in pain. I decided yesterday to clean the bathtub and put too much strain on my right leg. The leg itself isn't bad but my hip joint is not happy with me.
Going to try and be careful for the next couple of days.
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Friday, June 19, 2020 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by Brenda:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:If your motherboard doesn't have a port for the internet on it and requires a separate card, it's EXTREMELY old. I don't think that's the case.
Originally posted by Brenda:Quote:
I get that Jack. But keep saying that there is something missing which is where I plug the internet cable into the back of the case.
Does the back of your computer have a port that looks like the one highlighted in the following image?
If it does, you plug your router directly into that and you'll have internet.
I looked at the back of the computer last night but I couldn't tell anything. Brain and eyes didn't want to work together. Looked again when I got home today and there is no port like the one outlined in the picture. That I can see now is what is missing.
Is there a big gaping hole there or something then?
If a card was removed, there will be a big hole. It doesn't even make sense that somebody would remove that card since there would be absolutely no reason anybody would ever do that.
If you never had a port that looked like that in the first place, you didn't get on the internet with that computer. It's far too old for wi-fi.
You've only got 2 USB ports. I suppose you could have been getting on it wirelessly, but I'm starting to doubt it if you say the computer is possibly from 1992.
(EDIT: Just Googled it. USB wasn't even invented until 1994, so the computer is at least that "new".)
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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