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What next..Bush to blame for S.E. Asian quake/Tsunami ?

POSTED BY: AURaptor
UPDATED: Friday, March 11, 2005 16:01
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Sunday, December 26, 2004 7:38 PM

Not to make light of a major disaster and the high number of lives lost, but I've seen so many absurd things said about President Bush, I was wondering if there were folks out in the world who really would try to lay the blame for this event on him.

I hope folks will be reminded that mankind isn't all that we're cracked up to be, when it comes to knowing who's in charge of this rock that spins around the closest star.



" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Sunday, December 26, 2004 8:32 PM

At this point, it actually wouldn't surprise me. The crazy environmentalist wackos like to fly out the nuttiest of conspiracies.

Michael Moore will maybe come out with Fahrenheit Tsunami.

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Sunday, December 26, 2004 9:16 PM

Of course it was Bush! That new heavy lifting Atlas rocket not reaching its' desired altitude was just a smokescreen for the launch of a new Seismic Monitoring And Controlled Amplification Satellite Sysytem (SMAC-ASS)!!!

On second thought, I'm not sure even PurpleBelly would believe that....




MAL "You only gotta scare him."
JAYNE "Pain is scary..."

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Monday, December 27, 2004 6:52 AM

Well, now. It looks as though some on the right has sought out some pre-emptive complaining.



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Monday, December 27, 2004 10:57 AM

WHAT ??

Would you people show some respect, thousands of homes have been destroyed, hundreds of billions in damage, and thousands of people may have lost their lives ( maybe twice as much as the WTC attacks ).

If you want to continue you Bush-ranting or GW Worshipin' threads, then fine

but show a little respect for those who have died

May they rest in peace

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Monday, December 27, 2004 6:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FarscapePKWars:
WHAT ??

Would you people show some respect, thousands of homes have been destroyed, hundreds of billions in damage, and thousands of people may have lost their lives ( maybe twice as much as the WTC attacks ).

If you want to continue you Bush-ranting or GW Worshipin' threads, then fine

but show a little respect for those who have died

May they rest in peace



As Sgt Hulka once said.... " Lighten up, Francis."

No disrespect was meant in the least. It is indeed a terrible natural disaster, and our thoughts as well as what ever aid we can offer undeniably need to be with those who have suffered such a great loss.

You'll note, however, that this was a NATURAL DISASTER. I find it ironic that you speak of repsect for the dead, but then compare a deliberate ,premeditated attack on innocent life by fellow humans to a completely amoral act of nature. Neither victims 'deserved' what happened to them , but at least there was no malace or evil involved w/ the earthquake.

Finally, I was being a bit tongue in cheek w/ this post, being a bit absurd for the sake of showing absurdity. I was only trying to mimic some of the outlandish claims that have been directed toward Bush, the USA, ...ANYTHING that they don't like and would try take advantage of such a horrific event.

The intent was not to mock the loss of life or make light of the tragedy. If it was taken in that manner, I apologize for the appearence of such.

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Monday, December 27, 2004 8:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FarscapePKWars:
WHAT ??

Would you people show some respect, thousands of homes have been destroyed, hundreds of billions in damage, and thousands of people may have lost their lives ( maybe twice as much as the WTC attacks ).

If you want to continue you Bush-ranting or GW Worshipin' threads, then fine

but show a little respect for those who have died

May they rest in peace



AURaptor and I haven't exactly seen eye to eye on some issues. But I must, in his defense quote from the first post in this thread (his),

"Not to make light of a major disaster and the high number of lives lost,..."

Clearly this wasn't meant to minimize the disaster, but more of a social commentary of at least those radical left people that don't think before they speak (although there are probably equal number of these people on both sides).

So, please stop your knee-jerk reactions.


I have heard that the US has sent aid and is sending more. Good for them. And I hope that my country can do what it can, as well as all others.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4126971.stm
Currently, the dead total approx. 23000 and I hope that that doesn't grow too much more. But as you can see, it's already far greater than just twice your WTC attack.

And as AURaptor said, please don't compare apples and oranges. There is a difference between act of man and act of nature.


But, when it comes down to it, this thread is at most in poor taste, not disrespectful. There is a difference you know.

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Tuesday, December 28, 2004 5:33 AM

I can't speak for Auraptor... but, I didn't read Auraptor's comment as belittling the plight of those poor folks caught in that tragedy. It seemed to me that his post (and the sarcasm in it) stems from other posts in this neighborhood regarding conservative misbehavior that have a surreal, "fringe-like" quality.

The most recent example that caught my eye was blaming "neo-con nazis" for the cancellation of Firefly. As if basement ratings for a show badly handled by cretins at the network wouldn't have been enough without a special meeting of Bush's cabinet to engineer its demise.

Personally, I feel Bush has enough to answer for in the real world. Some of the more bizarre claims weaken the focus.

That said, the very real tragedy in Indonesia and surrounding areas surpasses human imagination. I think the only people who can truly grasp it are the poor folk who have to live it right now.

My heart goes out to them.

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Tuesday, December 28, 2004 6:27 AM

Ah, the Strawman, primary tactic of the lazy American political classes.

Nice one, AURaptor, really. What better possible distraction, when we should be discussing the totally immoral and utterly corrupt debacle that is this Bush adminstration's war on Iraq.

Fortunately for Karl Rove, the public has the attention span of a gnat and the memory of an Etch-A-Sketch in a paint shaker.

I am disappointed that W couldn't talk to his good personal friend, God, and have Him reverse the damage to the innocent. But I guess it's not that kind of friendship.

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Thursday, December 30, 2004 12:34 AM

I've edited this post of a sudden because I have re-read it, and previous posts, and realised it was largely knee-jerk guff.

My apologies to Auraraptor if he read it before I had chance to edit.

However, I still share some of the thoughts of my post. Let's not make this into a 'Bet those liberals try to pin the blame on Bush! Hah!' thread, as that would be insensitive, crass and be sadly stereotyping the political opposition to Bush.

Nor let it be a thread going... "I bet the Republicans try to make out that the liberals try to make out that this Bush's fault, like the evil folk they are! Hah!" For that is equally cretinous.

For all my dislike of the Bush administration on both Iraq, social policy and the enviroment, I have every confidence in their capacity and genorosity in disaster relief - which I note is being demonstrated amply.

I get what Auraraptor was trying to say, and there has been a whole bunch of odd allegations thrown at him in the past (defeating the very opposition they seek to champion with their bizarre claims) but I'm just worried that this will turn into another liberals-suck, neo-cons rock/vice-versa thread like all the others. Which would be deeply annoying, and trivalising of something horrible.

Anyway, I've set up another thread on the disaster. Any thoughts or prayers, feel free to pop onto it.

Pete

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