Does Covid-19 disprove the existence of God?
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Quote:And altho we can't control them, we no longer need gods to explain them: tectonic forces, objects in space, molten core magnetics, solar mass ejections, germ theory of diseases, reduced telomeres ... we believe there is a scientific explanation for everything. Except us.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
There are a many things over which we have no control - earthquakes/ volcanoes/ supervolcanoes, asteroids, a changing (strengthening/ weakening/ shifting) of the earth's magnetic field, EMPs, solar activity ... an ultimate death ... and so on.
Quote:And those are the things we have not yet been able to control: Ourselves.
But we have complete control over our numbers, our resource use, and our pollution. That and our wars and our poverty.
We have not yet reached an understanding of people and (especially) societies: How and why societies behave in ultimately self-destructive ways. The stone heads of Rapa Nui (Easter Island). The Old Ones remains of Chaco Canyon.
Quote:And we are STILL putting solution out of reach. Our western economy, and society, is mesmerized by dystopian post-acpocalyptic visions and equally impossible superhero salvation.
We are the sole cause of nearly all of our own misery. Blaming god puts solutions out of our hands, and so out of our reach. It's worse than pointless. It makes us helpless and our condition permanent, when instead we could solve our plagues.
It's as if, having dug a trench of thought/way of life, we can no longer imagine anything but total destruction or fanstastical salvation.
If I were to work backwards from our gods those in power (our "gods" amost always protect the power elite), I would say that the elite have seeded the idea of fantasy heroes in our minds, simply to put solutions out of reach. Because the alternative (if you believe Hollywood) is dystopia.
Yanno, everyone is convinced that happiness and ease are due them. Few people know that work and worry are a part of everyday life and that they are the only path to problem-solving. Life isn't like TV ... problems don't get solved in an hour, there if foten no "one" resolution, and there are no heroes to rescue us from ourselves. I could go on and on how our mass media has misled at least the last three generations of Americans on what life is and how to make it better, and which has derailed us from solving some VERY OBVIOUS problems with the way we are doing things. But that's a thread for another day.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Quote:It is a pretty weak and worthless religion that doesn't pair God with The Afterlife. If you prove there is an eternal afterlife (resurrection/reincarnation/souls-of-the-dead-in-heaven/or whatever) then you are 99.9% of the way to proving God exists. What if there are no signs/evidence/traces of that promised afterlife? Surely there will something detectable? But if there is no traces of the 100 billion people who already died in the last 50,000 years, then God is in big, big trouble when half of the promise of religion (Afterlife) doesn't exist.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Why is anyone still discussing this?
I think SIX said it best: Nobody can prove, or disprove, the existence of God, especially not the judeo-xtian kind.
If "god" was a provable, then "god" would be a subject of scientific study, able to be invoked in a lab and repeatedly demonstrated. The more that science has displaced the old gods and goddesses... the god of thunder, the rain goddess, the god of disease, the goddess of fertility, the god of the hunt, the corn god ... "god" has become a progressively abstract and unreachable idea.
www.prb.org/howmanypeoplehaveeverlivedonearth/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Stephen Fry on God
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
But we have complete control over our numbers, our resource use, and our pollution. That and our wars and our poverty.
Um...Do YOU have complete control over your mental disorder?? Yeah, right...
Pretending "we" can do anything straight and logically and sound would imply that EVERYONE has control of self, and that isn't even remotely true or feasible.
We're immobilized by a little virus, let alone the catalog of thousands of mental insufficiencies that exist.
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Meh, it's not the people at the bottom that're driving this crazy-train.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
He's just throwing around some Democrat Atheist tripe.
The existence of God depends on your party? TSSYP Not a Democrat btw. Keep on being wrong.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Of course The Coomph can't disprove the existence of God. What a stupid question.
My bad. I should have said, Christian God.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You either believe or you don't believe. It's a personal decision.
I think you accidentally hit on something that I believe in.
If all you need is a God concept you agree with and believe in, then yes for you, God as a belief system is real. If God is just an individual state of mind, the zen and mental health from just having belief in something that is calming or gives you strength - not unlike Book to Mal - as kind of meditation, "God" could exist for anyone. No matter what. BUT, if you go with the God that gave his only son route... that kind of action that exists as part of the shared physical world... sorry, eh, not so much.
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Quote:Religion is a shared experience. If there are atheists who are deliberately negating the reality of your religious convictions, it can ruin your experience. An example of that dynamic that is not about religion: there was a Virtual IndyCar race where real-life IndyCar drivers were competing. Every driver was respecting the reality until one driver, a disbeliever/troll, deliberately broke the shared illusion, ruining the experience that this was real. The race they cared about no longer mattered. It becomes a silly game.
Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You either believe or you don't believe. It's a personal decision.
I think you accidentally hit on something that I believe in.
If all you need is a God concept you agree with and believe in, then yes for you, God as a belief system is real. If God is just an individual state of mind, the zen and mental health from just having belief in something that is calming or gives you strength - not unlike Book to Mal - as kind of meditation, "God" could exist for anyone. No matter what. BUT, if you go with the God that gave his only son route... that kind of action that exists as part of the shared physical world... sorry, eh, not so much.
https://slate.com/technology/2020/05/indycar-virtual-race-controversy-
crash-norris-pagenaud-ferrucci-askew.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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The Bible disproves the existence of a loving and kind God. From 2 Kings 6:
Famine in Besieged Samaria
24 Some time later, Ben-Hadad king of Aram mobilized his entire army and marched up and laid siege to Samaria. 25 There was a great famine in the city; the siege lasted so long that a donkey’s head sold for eighty shekels[a] of silver, and a quarter of a cab(b) of seed pods[c] for five shekels.[d]
26 As the king of Israel was passing by on the wall, a woman cried to him, “Help me, my lord the king!”
27 The king replied, “If the Lord does not help you, where can I get help for you? From the threshing floor? From the winepress?” 28 Then he asked her, “What’s the matter?”
She answered, “This woman said to me, ‘Give up your son so we may eat him today, and tomorrow we’ll eat my son.’ 29 So we cooked my son and ate him. The next day I said to her, ‘Give up your son so we may eat him,’ but she had hidden him.”
From biblegateway https://bit.ly/3dGZkJY
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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I kill … I wound … I will make mine arrows drunk with blood, and my sword shall devour flesh. Deuteronomy 32.39-42
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Quote:That passage is just God being God, but Chapter 32 continues with God deciding to kill Moses:
Originally posted by THG:
I kill … I wound … I will make mine arrows drunk with blood, and my sword shall devour flesh. Deuteronomy 32.39-42
Moses to Die on Mount Nebo
48 On that same day the Lord told Moses, 49 “Go up into the Abarim Range to Mount Nebo in Moab, across from Jericho, and view Canaan, the land I am giving the Israelites as their own possession. 50 There on the mountain that you have climbed you will die and be gathered to your people, just as your brother Aaron died on Mount Hor and was gathered to his people. 51 This is because both of you broke faith with me in the presence of the Israelites at the waters of Meribah Kadesh in the Desert of Zin and because you did not uphold my holiness among the Israelites. 52 Therefore, you will see the land only from a distance; you will not enter the land I am giving to the people of Israel.”
www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+32&version=NIV
Moses gives a long speech saying goodby to the Israelites then he goes where the Godfather ordered. Godfather whacks Moses and dumps his body into an unmarked shallow grave. It is the perfect Mafioso ending:
"5 And Moses the servant of the Lord died there in Moab, as the Lord had said. 6 He buried him[a] in Moab, in the valley opposite Beth Peor, but to this day no one knows where his grave is."
www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+34&version=NIV
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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