Does Covid-19 disprove the existence of God?
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Does Covid-19 disprove the existence of God?
Not any more than any other reason for ME, but religious folk should at least be asking what kind of tweaked god they have that this planet is covered in misery.
We watched The Book of Eli this evening...the irony that he teaches Mila Kunis how to pray when they are already IN a horrifying post-apocalyptic world... 
utter insanity
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Are you even familiar with a book called The Bible?
There's shit that happened in there that makes The Coomph look like a stubbed toe.
Figures PizzaGate brain would compare parting the red sea with a virus. Keep swinging, genius. You can't compare a work of science fiction with real life. Other than for contrasts and differences.
Are you mental?
Even an ignorant moron like yourself surely has heard of the Noah's Arc story. When The Coomph kills 99.99% of everybody and every animal on the planet except for 2 of each, get back to me.
Job was great read too. When Satan goaded God into killing his most devout worshipers' entire family after destroying his livelihood just to prove that it's when a man has everything taken away from him that his faith is the strongest.
You should probably understand at least the basic fundamentals of a God that you are trashing before you open your mouth. The Coomph doesn't have shit on other crap God pulled in the Bible.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Taoism does not have a God in the way that the Abrahamic religions do. There is no omnipotent being beyond the cosmos, who created and controls the universe. In Taoism the universe springs from the Tao, and the Tao impersonally guides things on their way. But the Tao itself is not God, nor is it a god, nor is it worshipped by Taoists.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I think that both as individuals and as societies we've just lost our sense of Balance.
We probably could all use a little Taoism in our lives, whether or not we believe in any Gods.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/taoism/beliefs/gods.shtml
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Why are you writing that as if I don't know what Taoism is?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Missing the point about atrocities in the Bible: In debates with atheists, Christians often fail to engage with the complexities of the Bible.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You should probably understand at least the basic fundamentals of a God that you are trashing before you open your mouth. The Coomph doesn't have shit on other crap God pulled in the Bible.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Ann Widdecombe, Member of Parliament and a conservative Roman Catholic, extolled the virtues of the Mosaic law, while at the same time lamenting our moral descent from the lofty heights of Sinai. But it does not take long for the Mosaic law to unravel as an unimpeachable guide to modern ethics, especially given the fact that Moses can, without evident irony, remind the Hebrews in one breath not to kill (Deuteronomy 5), and in the other command his people to lay waste to Canaan, sparing no man, woman, child, or animal (Deuteronomy 7).
Such difficulties in the Bible — particularly the Old Testament — are often ignored by Christians such as Miss Widdecombe, but easily exploited by those who see religion as a hindrance to human morality. They can therefore result in an unsettling impasse for many believers.
Many biblical morality tales are “appalling”. Militant atheists often attack this area of biblical morality, and Christians struggle to answer them. It is hard to argue in favour of genocide as Moses does.
YET THIS apparent conundrum stems from a simplistic, overly literalistic approach to the biblical text, an approach that Christians, particularly those with a more conservative faith, need to move away from if they are to engage detractors in a satisfactory manner. One must read the Bible as its writers intended, with an awareness that we are not reading normative ethical treatises as we would see them today, but nationalistic histories and ritual codes.
For example, while tradition holds that Moses was the author of the first five books of the Bible, biblical scholars have long detected a later human hand in the Pentateuch’s composition. Deuteronomy and the conquest narratives of Joshua and Judges almost certainly belong to the so-called “Deuteronomic history”, an account intentionally written by Israelite theologians to promote the nationalistic view that the Israelites’ claim to the land has divine approval.
That these theologians engaged in hyperbole is attested by evidence on the ground: the book of Joshua seems to suggest a genocidal annihilation of the Canaanites, but it is clear from archaeology and even from later biblical books that the Canaanites never went away. Thus the tale is accurate as theological narrative, but not necessarily as pure historical fact.
Likewise, context is important in understanding the intent of the biblical text. For example, the harsh punishments meted out to Moses’s own people must be understood in the context of Near Eastern covenant codes: just as the king made covenants with his vassal people, so God made a covenant with Israel. In both situations, the breaking of such covenants was always met with severe punishment, a point the text uses to highlight the seriousness of God’s relationship with his people.
EVEN SO, we need not think that such violence is troubling only to our modern moral sensibilities. There is much evidence to suggest that later Israelites and Jews, while still heralding Moses as a national hero, were not always keen on his methods.
The book of Jonah is a prime example. Having been rescued from the whale and after finally preaching to Nineveh, Jonah impatiently awaits the destruction of the heathen city, only to be reminded by God that his love and mercy transcend national boundaries: “Should I not be even more concerned about Nineveh, this enormous city? There are more than 120,000 people in it who do not know right from wrong” (Jonah 9.11).
The message here seems to be that the Ninevites, because they do not know God, are also not accountable t
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Are you even familiar with a book called The Bible?
There's shit that happened in there that makes The Coomph look like a stubbed toe.
Figures PizzaGate brain would compare parting the red sea with a virus. Keep swinging, genius. You can't compare a work of science fiction with real life. Other than for contrasts and differences.
Are you mental?
Even an ignorant moron like yourself surely has heard of the Noah's Arc story. When The Coomph kills 99.99% of everybody and every animal on the planet except for 2 of each, get back to me.
Job was great read too. When Satan goaded God into killing his most devout worshipers' entire family after destroying his livelihood just to prove that it's when a man has everything taken away from him that his faith is the strongest.
You should probably understand at least the basic fundamentals of a God that you are trashing before you open your mouth. The Coomph doesn't have shit on other crap God pulled in the Bible.
What, you believe those really happened? Like I said... science fiction v real life... people who believed Pizzagate would believe the Bible was real.
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Quote:To be perfectly clear, there are religions without a perfect, all powerful God answering prayers (including prayers for exemption from Covid-19) in exchange for worship by believers. Taoism doesn't run a business of protection from disease in exchange for worshiping Tao. On the other hand, Jim Bakker, who spent time in jail for defrauding worshipers, does run such a business loosely connected to Christianity.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:Taoism does not have a God in the way that the Abrahamic religions do. There is no omnipotent being beyond the cosmos, who created and controls the universe. In Taoism the universe springs from the Tao, and the Tao impersonally guides things on their way. But the Tao itself is not God, nor is it a god, nor is it worshipped by Taoists.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I think that both as individuals and as societies we've just lost our sense of Balance.
We probably could all use a little Taoism in our lives, whether or not we believe in any Gods.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/taoism/beliefs/gods.shtml
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Why are you writing that as if I don't know what Taoism is?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
www.ky3.com/content/news/Televangelist-Jim-Bakker-sues-Missouri-Attorn
ey-General-570217421.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Richard Dawkins - "What are the five best reasons why there is no god"
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Neil deGrasse Tyson on God
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Why is anyone still discussing this?
I think SIX said it best: Nobody can prove, or disprove, the existence of God, especially not the judeo-xtian kind.
If "god" was a provable, then "god" would be a subject of scientific study, able to be invoked in a lab and repeatedly demonstrated. The more that science has displacd the old gods and goddesses... the god of thunder, the rain goddess, the god of disease, the goddess of fertility, the god of the hunt, the corn god ... "god" has become a progressively abstract and unreachable idea.
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It's my view that gods and goddesses are expressions of people's attempts to control, or at least explain, the uncontrollable, and that they reflect the society in which they were created.
When people lived in matrilineal tribes small tribes, immediately subject to the forces of nature, their goddesses and gods were all about nature: fertility, the success of the hunt, thunder, and rain. (And clearly their visions of punishment were based on their location: for the Norse, it was a frozen hell, for the mideastern religions it was eternal fire.) As they settled into warring settlements the gods became a warring, bickering clan (think Greek gods). Once centralized authority (or the concept of it) was reached, monotheism came about.
There is, in moderm thinking, only one uncontrollable force left to face now, and that is us. So OUR god ...at least, the one we appeal to ... involves justice.
The eastern POV, commonly referred to as "religion", somtimes lacks gods. IMHO that's what separates religion from philosophy and ethics.
Interestingly, I read one of those pop-up articles about the recent insertion of "good" and "bad" into fairy tales. Now we have movies all about SJW superheroes.
AGAIN, IMHO, our goddesses and gods, our heroes and heroines, our superheroes and superheroines, are all about OUR needs which are derived from OUR societies..
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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There are a many things over which we have no control - earthquakes/ volcanoes/ supervolcanoes, asteroids, a changing (strengthening/ weakening/ shifting) of the earth's magnetic field, EMPs, solar activity ... an ultimate death ... and so on.
But we have complete control over our numbers, our resource use, and our pollution. That and our wars and our poverty.
We are the sole cause of nearly all of our own misery. Blaming god puts solutions out of our hands, and so out of our reach. It's worse than pointless. It makes us helpless and our condition permanent, when instead we could solve our plagues.
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