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Does Covid-19 disprove the existence of God?

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THG
Saturday, May 9, 2020 6:36 PM



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Deep state describes dedicated, educated professionals.

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Saturday, May 9, 2020 6:50 PM

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Originally posted by THG:Deep state describes dedicated, educated professionals.



There's far more to it than just that, and I suspect you see. It's the belief that they know better and we, the dumb masses, need to blindly listen, follow, and even obey them, because, as you so clearly put it, they're dedicated, educated and professional.


" People don't like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think, don't run, don't walk. We're in their homes and in their heads and we haven't the right. We're meddlesome." - River Tam.



I know anything, I know this: they will try again. Maybe on another world, maybe on this very ground swept clean. A year from now, ten, they'll swing back to the belief that they can make people ... better. And I do not hold to that.

So no more running. I aim to misbehave.
" - Mal Reynolds.


And isn't that pretty much how things are playing out now ? It's as they've always been. You get a few folks, a group of people, a class that believes it's better than, above everyone else, and then instead of trying to make their case, explaining it to everyone, they just go out and DO stuff... legal or not, because they KNOW better.

Sorry, but that's not how this works. Not in a free society.

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Sunday, May 10, 2020 5:50 PM

A cartoon defends God versus Covid-19:

Man: “Lord, why do bad things happen to good people?”

God: “Come on, Man. I do like three killer tsunamis per year at most, and then otherwise things are basically solid. I am allll powerful, alllll knowing, and allllllmost good. Like *this* close. It's practically a rounding error.”
www.smbc-comics.com/comic/theodicy

The philosopher Leibniz defends God versus Covid-19:

There are two main species of the problem of evil that Leibniz addresses. The first, “the underachiever problem,” is raised by a critic who would argue that the existence of evil in our world indicates that God cannot be as knowledgeable, powerful, or good as traditional monotheists have claimed. The second, “the holiness problem,” is raised by the critic who would argue that God's intimate causal entanglements with the world make God the cause of evil. God is thereby implicated in evil to the detriment of his holiness.

Consideration of any present-day introductory textbook of philosophy reveals that the problem of evil in contemporary philosophy is standardly regarded as an argument for atheism. The atheist contends that God and evil are incompatible, and given that evil clearly exists, God cannot exist. Some philosophers, conceding that the claimed incompatibility in the foregoing argument is too strong, contend, nevertheless, that even if the existence of God and the existence of evil should prove to be compatible, the existence (or duration, or amount, or pervasiveness) of evil provides us at the very least with compelling circumstantial evidence that God does not exist.

Framed in this way, the “atheistic problem of evil” invites certain sorts of responses. In particular, it invites the theist to explain how a being that is omniscient, omnibenevolent, and omnipotent can allow evil to exist. Present-day responses to the problem of evil therefore focus largely on presenting “theodicies,” that is, reasons why a perfect being does or might permit evil of the sort (or duration, or amount, or distribution) that we find in our world to exist.

When we consider, however, the works of medieval philosophers who address the problem of evil, the “atheistic problem” is not to be found. Since these figures believed that the arguments of natural theology demonstrated the existence of God, the problem that evil presented for them was different from that engaged by present-day philosophers. In present-day terminology, medieval philosophers did not engage the “evidential” problem of evil: rather, they engaged the “aporetic” problem of evil, in order to try to resolve the apparent logical incompatibility between God's attributes and the existence of evil. [On the distinction between these problems, see Adams and Adams (1990), pp. 1–3.] The problem, therefore, was taken to be that of explaining the compatibility of the existence of evil with divine moral purity or holiness.
More at https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/leibniz-evil/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, May 11, 2020 12:28 AM

There are a many things over which we have no control - earthquakes/ volcanoes/ supervolcanoes, asteroids, a changing (strengthening/ weakening/ shifting) of the earth's magnetic field, EMPs, solar activity ... an ultimate death ... and so on.

But we have complete control over our numbers, our resource use, and our pollution. That and our wars and our poverty.


We are the sole cause of nearly all of our own misery. Blaming god puts solutions out of our hands, and so out of our reach. It's worse than pointless. It makes us helpless and our condition permanent, when instead we could solve our plagues.

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Monday, May 11, 2020 5:53 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

We are the sole cause of nearly all of our own misery. Blaming god puts solutions out of our hands, and so out of our reach. It's worse than pointless. It makes us helpless and our condition permanent, when instead we could solve our plagues.

"Why Do Some Prayers Go Unanswered?" God knows better than we do whether granting certain requests is in our best interests. Jehovah always responds for our good, in harmony with his loving purposes recorded in the Bible.
www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/wp20090101/why-do-some-prayers-go-unan
swered
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See also "What Are Two Reasons Why God Rejects Some Prayers?"
www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/when-god-does-not-listen/

In other words, if Covid-19 gets you, you deserved it and if it doesn't, thank God.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, May 11, 2020 6:13 AM

Of all the churches to all the gods in all the religions out of all the aeons, JW walks into your life.

Here's some conundrums - if god(s) is(are) unknowable - why does every(all) religion(s) claim to know exactly what god(s) want(s) us to do? Why do they all claim to be the one and only and demand exclusive fealty? And why are they all different?

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Monday, May 11, 2020 6:23 AM

Your chance of eternal salvation lies here:

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Monday, May 11, 2020 6:41 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Of all the churches to all the gods in all the religions out of all the aeons, JW walks into your life.

Here's some conundrums - if god(s) is(are) unknowable - why does every(all) religion(s) claim to know exactly what god(s) want(s) us to do? Why do they all claim to be the one and only and demand exclusive fealty? And why are they all different?

David Koresh, Marshall Applewhite, Jim Jones, Jim Bakker, etc. made too many big promises when they were designing and operating their religions/businesses. It didn't go well for them. More successful religious leaders don't make too specific promises, instead remain vague about God's plan and thus avoid bankruptcy, jail, suicide, and messy divorce.

Jim Bakker is being sued over Covid-19: "This week’s complaint was filed in rural Stone County because that's where Jim Bakker's national show is recorded. The claims came from a guest on Bakker's show, saying a product he's selling is proven to work on other strains of coronavirus, and could work on the one we're all fighting now. Nixon is defending Bakker saying this lawsuit isn't about medicine, but rather about freedom of religion, speech, and Bakker's deeply held Christian beliefs."
www.ky3.com/content/news/Televangelist-Jim-Bakker-sues-Missouri-Attorn
ey-General-570217421.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, May 11, 2020 7:09 AM

All religions promise 'salvation', because, as they claim, they've been specially chose to understand the mind of god(s) - but which they also claim is unknowable...

...

Yeah. The flimsiness is that obvious.

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Monday, May 11, 2020 7:11 AM

Your chance of eternal salvation lies in believing the message from here:

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