And it begins...
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UPDATED: Monday, July 21, 2025 23:05
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So much for facts, then.
Bye.
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But somewhat on the topic:
Of course there are the people who deny anything is wrong and want everything just opened up without caution or concern.
But most people are squeezed - between their fear of catching SARS-COV-2 or maybe even passing it on to a loved one - and their need to work - and the piss-poor government response to a historic crisis.
I think if people thought the government reliably had their backs with the emergency relief checks or unemployment or the Payment Protection Program they wouldn't be so stressed. Or if there were realistic (#wearamask) requirements for helping people stay safe as they went back to work they wouldn't be so stressed. But there seems to be nothing. 10M still haven't received their relief checks. Unemployment is swamped and weeks behind. The PPP is inadequate and often misdirected. And there seems to be no positive protection people can use to stay safe besides hoping other people can and will keep their distance and hoping no one coughs on you. And we've seen how well that works at meat packing plants.
People are left dangling, to fend for themselves.
BTW I don't see a lot of people who've lost their employment being depressed over this, I see them being royally pissed off.
My PERSONAL opinion is that people should be allowed to vote in a referendum as to when and how their states should reopen. There are too many people with a vital interest in this to leave it to political pressure groups. And mandatory masks and available hand sanitizers or gloves should be on the list of options to choose, if the majority decides that's how to reopen.
most recent poll numbers:
https://apnews.com/9ed271ca13012d3b77a2b631c1979ce1
AP-NORC poll: Few Americans support easing virus protections
About 8 in 10 Americans say they support measures that include requiring Americans to stay in their homes and limiting gatherings to 10 people or fewer — numbers that have largely held steady over the past few weeks.
While the poll reveals that the feelings behind the protests that materialized in the past week or so in battleground states such as Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin are held by only a small fraction of Americans, it does find signs that Republicans are, like President Donald Trump, becoming more bullish on reopening aspects of public life.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
#WEARAMASK
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
#WEARAMASK
Hey Sig, you must live in a state that's still closed, have you read or heard about spikes in deaths in states that have opened? If there were spikes that's all we would be hearing and reading right now. And when they do open your state you do know you don't have to go out right? You can stay locked in your home and post stupid political cartoons all day and night.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
#WEARAMASK
Quote:Give it a week or 2 and revisit that.
Originally posted by whozit:
Hey Sig, you must live in a state that's still closed, have you read or heard about spikes in deaths in states that have opened? If there were spikes that's all we would be hearing and reading right now.
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:Give it a week or 2 and revisit that.
Originally posted by whozit:
Hey Sig, you must live in a state that's still closed, have you read or heard about spikes in deaths in states that have opened? If there were spikes that's all we would be hearing and reading right now.
It sure would be helpful (for some humans) if Covid killed immediately. Bodies just keeling over all day long, anywhere, mostly in large gatherings and where people didn't wear masks or observe social distance. I can imagine *exploding* groups of people, like a pipe bomb from Left 4 Dead - poof! - another group of dummies bites the dust.
In all seriousness, while we are observing every single recommendation to not get infucted, we are very curious to see what the trend lines do through the rest of May and into the first half of June. I wonder how easy it would be to mess with those numbers - lots at stake either way.
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Come November people will pass boarded up business's on their way to the voting booth, they'll be reminded of what their dictators did to them. They'll remember having to wear a mask while waiting in line to get into the supermarket and having to be off the street by 8 pm. Get ready for a Trump landslide this fall.
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The masks and quarantine are staying on for us until we see 14 days in a row with no new cases here. We haven't had even the first day of no new cases yet, so I think this rush to reopen is premature and reckless.
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In all seriousness, while we are observing every single recommendation to not get infucted, we are very curious to see what the trend lines do through the rest of May and into the first half of June. I wonder how easy it would be to mess with those numbers - lots at stake either way.
One thing for sure is that there aren't enough tests. I wonder btw how deliberate that is. If one is in a position of responsibility, it certainly is advantageous to minimize the COVID-19 death count in order to make oneself look better. Anyway, because of the lack of adequate tests, no matter how many confirmed COVID-19 deaths are counted, there will be more actual ones, maybe even many more actual ones.
Fortunately here in the US there are robust statistics on deaths associated with causes, and on total deaths. So 'excess deaths' are a reasonable measure to use. I don't think we'll know down to the last case how many COVID-19 deaths there are, but we'll have a good enough ballpark figure.
There will always be people who either don't want to admit to any facts at all, or will dispute the validity of any measure you put in front of them - like JACK who keeps insisting that COVID-19 is just like 'the' flu, despite that fact that no flu ever led to overwhelmed hospitals, reefer body storage, and mass graves in NYC. Hopefully a majority are saner people who understand that that POV lacks any credibility.
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CDC ends bird flu emergency
https://hpj.com/2025/07/21/cdc-ends-bird-flu-emergency/
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