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Some Covid-19 thoughts

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Friday, May 8, 2020 2:24 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Meanwhile, YOU have become just like SECOND. He thinks Trump can do no right, and rationalizes coups. YOU are now so hyper-partisan, you can't imagine that Trump could do any wrong - ever - and you rationalize deaths.

JACK and SECOND - two peas in a pod.



There's nobody in the world that can "do no wrong - ever".

Your little list on the other thread was bullshit though.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, May 8, 2020 2:37 PM

Stupid monkey ... though it's pretty cute when some of us think that they've got everything figured out.

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Friday, May 8, 2020 8:19 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Stupid monkey ... though it's pretty cute when some of us think that they've got everything figured out.



OK. That applies equally to both of us, just so you know.


You're basing your beliefs on immediate statistics that may or may not be accurate, and a very limited testing pool in a very, very large petri dish. I'm basing mine in historical trends and going on several decades obvious bad journalism to the point of propaganda.


Time is going to be the only thing that proves which of us is right.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, May 8, 2020 9:06 PM



AKA None of the above.

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Saturday, May 9, 2020 6:22 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Meanwhile, YOU have become just like SECOND. He thinks Trump can do no right, and rationalizes coups. YOU are now so hyper-partisan, you can't imagine that Trump could do any wrong - ever - and you rationalize deaths.

JACK and SECOND - two peas in a pod.

White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany sought to reassure the news media that the White House Covid-19 testing procedures are sound. I wanted to draw attention to this quote from McEnany:

“We have put in place the guidelines that our experts have put forward to keep this building safe, which means contact tracing," McEnany told reporters during Friday’s news briefing. "All of the recommended guidelines we have for businesses that have essential workers, we are now putting them in place here in the White House. So as America reopens safely, the White House is continuing to operate safely.”

The careful reader will note a jarring juxtaposition here. McEnany claims both that the United States is reopening safely and that the White House is operating safely. But only one of these two — the White House — actually has the sort of testing regime the White House itself is now implicitly acknowledging is a prerequisite to safety.

The rest of the country largely lacks this level of testing — because Trump doesn’t want to take the steps necessary to stand up a robust federal testing regime.

www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/05/08/single-kayleigh-mcenany-quo
te-gives-away-game
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, May 9, 2020 10:42 PM

You might feel blindsided by the coronavirus, but warnings about a looming pandemic have been there for decades. Government briefings, science journals and even popular fiction projected the spread of a novel virus and the economic impacts it would bring, complete often with details about the specific challenges the U.S. is now facing.

It makes you wonder: What else are we missing? What other catastrophes are coming that we aren’t planning for, but that could disrupt our lives, homes, jobs or our broader society in the next few years or decades?

It’s the government’s job to think about this: Every year, the intelligence community releases the Worldwide Threat Assessment—a distillation of worrisome global trends, risks, problem spots and emerging perils. But this year, the public hearing on the assessment, usually held in January or February, was canceled, evidently because intelligence leaders, who usually testify in a rare open hearing together, were worried their comments would aggravate President Donald Trump. And the government has not yet publicly released a 2020 threat report.

What would it say? Since there’s been no public version, we’ve compiled our own here, reviewing numerous government and academic reports and speaking with more than a dozen thought leaders, including scientists, researchers and current and former national security and intelligence officials.

What follows is POLITICO Magazine’s “Domestic Threat Assessment”—a list of the most significant events that might impact the United States over the next 30 to 50 years. These are threats that seem rare, but that over a given period are almost guaranteed to occur—events that politicians have a hard time understanding.

More at www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/05/07/experts-knew-pandemic-was-co
ming-what-they-fear-next-238686


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, May 10, 2020 2:24 AM

CEOs Who Came to Meet Pence in Masks Were Asked to Remove Them

Mike Pence was unmasked in Iowa on Friday, attending two events without covering his face, even though public health officials say masks slow the spread of the deadly coronavirus and one of the vice president’s aides tested positive for Covid-19 just before he departed Washington.

What’s more, a live video stream of the second event, a roundtable discussion with food industry leaders in Des Moines, showed that all five of the invited guests arrived wearing masks but were asked to remove them shortly before the vice president joined them on stage.

The request underscored just how committed the White House is to ignoring federal health advice intended to slow the spread of the pandemic coronavirus.


After the event, at which the chief executive of Smithfield Foods choked up when mentioning the death of a worker from Covid-19, the union that represents Iowa meat-packers, who have been forced back to work by an executive order from the president despite outbreaks at their plants, suggested that it would have been more useful for Pence, Perdue, Grassley and Ernst to have worked a shift alongside them. “They should work in the same conditions and under the same fear that our members and their fellow Iowans work under every day,” the United Food and Commercial Workers union said in a statement.

More at https://theintercept.com/2020/05/09/pence-aides-positive-covid-19-test
-exposes-folly-white-house-aversion-masks
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, May 10, 2020 3:41 PM

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Originally posted by second:
You might feel blindsided by the coronavirus, but warnings about a looming pandemic have been there for decades. Government briefings, science journals and even popular fiction projected the spread of a novel virus and the economic impacts it would bring, complete often with details about the specific challenges the U.S. is now facing.

So, lack of prepardeness isn't ONLY Trump's fault?

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It makes you wonder: What else are we missing? What other catastrophes are coming that we aren’t planning for, but that could disrupt our lives, homes, jobs or our broader society in the next few years or decades?
Jeezus, what have I been harping on for YEARS? There are large natural disasters ...

Large earthquakes
Hurricanes
Massive flooding
Blizzards
Volanic eruptions (including supervolcanoes)
Meteor strikes
Wildfires
Drought
Epidemic/pandemic human disease
Crop failure/disease/insect damage
And last, but certainly not least ... EMPs

And then there are manmade ones...

War, including nuclear war
Social unrest, including civil war and ethnic cleansing
Massive cyberattack on banks, the power grid, water treatment etc
Currency collapse
Sanctions which limit vital supplies like oil
The creation and failure of any part of long, fragile supply lines
Infrastructural decay or sudden catastrophic failure (power grid overload, dam collpase, road and bridge failures)


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It’s the government’s job to think about this: Every year, the intelligence community releases the Worldwide Threat Assessment—a distillation of worrisome global trends, risks, problem spots and emerging perils. But this year, the public hearing on the assessment, usually held in January or February, was canceled, evidently because intelligence leaders, who usually testify in a rare open hearing together, were worried their comments would aggravate President Donald Trump. And the government has not yet publicly released a 2020 threat report.
I don't need a "threat report", I have a pretty good grasp of what might go wrong just by looking at history. And these
threat reports" are usually kinked ... not towards "preparedness" but how to spend more $$$ on the "intelligence community" and the MIC. They're just self-serving grabs for money and power.
Do you want to know how I know this?
Because we have been woefully unprepared at the national level for every large disaster that has occurred in the past two decades (or more) ... Katrina, the Great Recession, and the Pandemic of 2019 all caught each administration flat-footed.

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Blah blah blah
Preparedness for just about every kind of disaster tends to run along the same lines...

Local and regional production, which is redundant
On-hand surplus of cash, water, food, medicine and other essential goods at the individual, city, and regional level
Decentralized power, water, transportation and sanitation grids
Specific rescue equipment at the state and national level - pumps, cranes, 'dozers, fire-fighting aircraft, pop-up hospitals, portable generators etc
Communication and pre-planning (required of CONGRESS as well) plus technical expertise

It doesn't take rocket science to figure this out. But prepardeness takes money. It requires that people be individually and collectively "inefficient" by investing in surplus and redundant production.




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THG
Sunday, May 10, 2020 7:32 PM

Sigs at it again. She argues nothing matters if it's not literally the worst thing happening or has happened. This style of argument is popular with sig who knows she is doing something wrong when applying it.

Sig is fully aware that she is covering up Trumps failures as she posts her attempts at fallacy of relative privation. Pointing to other unrelated disasters in an attempt to minimize Trumps Coronavirus response failures.

Crawl back under your rock sig. We've seen this from you a hundred times and more.


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Sunday, May 10, 2020 7:55 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

It doesn't take rocket science to figure this out. But prepardeness takes money. It requires that people be individually and collectively "inefficient" by investing in surplus and redundant production.

An Average American may understand, intellectually, that what he is doing is wrong, but he doesn’t feel it. He knows the words but not the music. He just don’t have the circuitry in his brain constantly and relentlessly directing him to prepare. So he doesn't. Multiply the average American by 150 or 200 million and the answer is America as it is today. Or if you think globally, multiply by 3 or 4 billion average humans and the answer is the World as it is today, unprepared and with brains unwilling to prepare. You might notice that it is not everyone missing critical brain circuitry, just the majority, and in a Democracy lifting the dead-weight of the unresponsive/apathetic/uncomprehending majority who refuse to pay for preparations can make it difficult or impossible to prepare America. The heaviest dead-weight American? Trump.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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