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Does Covid-19 disprove the existence of God?

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Friday, May 8, 2020 9:20 AM

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ARGUMENT FROM MULTIPLICITY (V) (recursive internet edition)
(1) There exists a web page ( www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/GodProof.htm )
(2) That page has hundreds of purported proofs of the existence of God.
(3) They can't all be wrong.
(4) Therefore, God exists.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

Well ... ahem ! ... that argument works equally badly the other way around.

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Friday, May 8, 2020 9:45 AM

Yup.

You can't prove or disprove God.


And Atheists are just as annoying as Jehovah's Witnesses when they preach their religion.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, May 8, 2020 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

You can't prove or disprove God.

You can run calculations and get an answer to as many digits accuracy as you have energy to do the work.

3.5.3 The Argument from Evil: A Quantitative Result
This approach generates a result that enables one not just to conclude that it is more likely than not that God does not exist, but also to assign an upper bound to the probability that God exists. The upper bound, moreover, is surely very low indeed. Accordingly, n must be extremely large, and thus the probability that there is an omnipotent, omniscient, and morally perfect person, i.e. God, must be very low indeed.

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/evil/#IndLogEviArgEvi

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, May 8, 2020 11:43 AM

It never ceases to amaze me how people come up with such convoluted plots regarding god

I might even add ‘Deus Ex Machina

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Friday, May 8, 2020 2:27 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

You can't prove or disprove God.

You can run calculations and get an answer to as many digits accuracy as you have energy to do the work.

3.5.3 The Argument from Evil: A Quantitative Result
This approach generates a result that enables one not just to conclude that it is more likely than not that God does not exist, but also to assign an upper bound to the probability that God exists. The upper bound, moreover, is surely very low indeed. Accordingly, n must be extremely large, and thus the probability that there is an omnipotent, omniscient, and morally perfect person, i.e. God, must be very low indeed.

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/evil/#IndLogEviArgEvi

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



lol

Stupid monkeys... we used to think the earth was flat and that the sun revolved around it too.

It's pretty cute when some of us think that they've got everything figured out.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, May 8, 2020 2:50 PM

RIP Mr Hitchens.

I'm at the point that for those who believe, nothing will shake their ' faith '. Not aliens, not dinosaurs, not man made China viruses.

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Friday, May 8, 2020 4:33 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

lol

Stupid monkeys... we used to think the earth was flat and that the sun revolved around it too.

It's pretty cute when some of us think that they've got everything figured out.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

The philosophical argument is that there are states of affairs such that it is likely that, all things considered, it would be morally very wrong for an omnipotent and omniscient person, i.e. God, to allow those states of affairs to exist. What the philosophers are arguing is that God can't be all three simultaneously: 1) omnipotent and 2) omniscient and 3) moral at the same time. But if God is missing two or even three of the above attributes, that is a different problem, one where God isn't actually a God, but more like a Thor, the comic book and movie character existing only in your imagination and the Disney Channel.

A number of philosophers have gone on to claim that in order to be justified in asserting that there are evils in the world that establish that it is unlikely that God exists, one would first have to examine all of the traditional arguments for the existence of God, and show that none of them is sound. Almost none of them provides any support for the hypothesis that there is an omnipotent and omniscient being who is also morally perfect.

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/evil/#AppPosEviForExiGod

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, May 8, 2020 8:06 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

lol

Stupid monkeys... we used to think the earth was flat and that the sun revolved around it too.

It's pretty cute when some of us think that they've got everything figured out.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

The philosophical argument is that there are states of affairs such that it is likely that, all things considered, it would be morally very wrong for an omnipotent and omniscient person, i.e. God, to allow those states of affairs to exist. What the philosophers are arguing is that God can't be all three simultaneously: 1) omnipotent and 2) omniscient and 3) moral at the same time. But if God is missing two or even three of the above attributes, that is a different problem, one where God isn't actually a God, but more like a Thor, the comic book and movie character existing only in your imagination and the Disney Channel.



Old Testament "God" was a brutal son of a bitch.

Have you ever read Job? It's actually the only book in the Bible that I struggled through after hearing about it (I find reading the Bible to be an even more painful experience than trying to plod through Lovecraft).

What God allowed Satan to do to Job and his family for no reason more than to prove a point seemed pretty fucking petty in my eyes.

My mind will likely never be made up on whether or not there is a God before I die. But I have no illusions that he's some sort of 100% moral being that makes the right decision all of the time.


Even if he were, how do you translate that to a planet full of 7.5 BILLION people, all with their own individual and conflicting interests?



You can't sit and complain now that there wasn't enough given on the planet for everyone. The fact that we've put this many people on the planet over time was our own doing, with or without a God. "Free Will". If God were a micro-manager to the degree that you seem to be suggesting he should be, we never would have gone over a billion people.


The God I believe might exist just turned on the lights, gave us a great place to live if we were up to the challenge, washed his hands of it and said "try not to fuck it all up".

He also knew that we were destined to fuck it all up eventually.

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A number of philosophers have gone on to claim that in order to be justified in asserting that there are evils in the world that establish that it is unlikely that God exists, one would first have to examine all of the traditional arguments for the existence of God, and show that none of them is sound. Almost none of them provides any support for the hypothesis that there is an omnipotent and omniscient being who is also morally perfect.




Once again, this goes to an earlier statement of mine on the thread...

If everything were great all of the time we would have no reference point and everything would just be normal.



I think that both as individuals and as societies we've just lost our sense of Balance.

We probably could all use a little Taoism in our lives, whether or not we believe in any Gods.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, May 8, 2020 10:17 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Are you even familiar with a book called The Bible?
There's shit that happened in there that makes The Coomph look like a stubbed toe.




Figures PizzaGate brain would compare parting the red sea with a virus. Keep swinging, genius. You can't compare a work of science fiction with real life. Other than for contrasts and differences.

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Saturday, May 9, 2020 5:15 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I think that both as individuals and as societies we've just lost our sense of Balance.

We probably could all use a little Taoism in our lives, whether or not we believe in any Gods.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Taoism does not have a God in the way that the Abrahamic religions do. There is no omnipotent being beyond the cosmos, who created and controls the universe. In Taoism the universe springs from the Tao, and the Tao impersonally guides things on their way. But the Tao itself is not God, nor is it a god, nor is it worshipped by Taoists.
www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/taoism/beliefs/gods.shtml

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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