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Sunday, April 19, 2020 9:19 PM

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We all know that Democrats are all hypocrites at the core, but I'm talking about you specifically, Second. For every two posts you make on any given day you contradict yourself at least once.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

You're doing what Trump is doing -- endlessly pointing out imaginary faults in your enemies. This headline cracks me up:

Trump Relents, says States will decide when to lift restrictions

Trump “relents.” Sure. Does anyone think for even a minute that Trump ever wanted total control over reopening the economy—or any other aspect of the COVID-19 pandemic? He spent two months telling us it was no big deal, and ever since then he’s done nothing but blame it on other people. He’s blamed China. He’s blamed WHO. He’s blamed Obama. He’s blamed the states. He’s blamed unnamed experts who failed to tell him anything was going on. He’s blamed the media. He’s blamed General Motors. He’s blamed hospitals.

In the meantime, the only concrete action he’s taken has been putting Jared in charge of a dodgy airlift operation that allows him to distribute medical supplies at his personal whim.

Trump doesn’t have a clue what to do about a pandemic that can’t be removed from the front pages by simply distracting everyone with some random, outrageous comment.



History will show...

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That I'm right again.

I usually am.

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Monday, April 20, 2020 6:11 PM

The Liberal Catastrophe of American Democracy

The pandemic is about to collide with all the cynicism of a system veering toward unsustainable inequality.

http://watchingamerica.com/WA/2020/04/18/the-liberal-catastrophe-of-am
erican-democracy
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The epidemic is devastating a country in which 30 million citizens cannot access medical care.

The image is unsettling even amid the surreal panoramas produced by the pandemic, scenes of a deserted world and ghost cities. In the parking lot of a disused conference center in the Las Vegas suburbs, a rectangular grid has been drawn.

They look like white lines for parking spaces, but they have been drawn on the tarmac to park human beings.

Every painted rectangle delineates the space allotted to a homeless person. Many of the spaces on the chessboard beneath the leaden sky are indeed occupied by figures lying supine or curled up against the cold, surrounded by a scattering of meager possessions. These people are among about 500 who have been relocated from a Catholic Charities overnight shelter, vacated after one of the guests tested positive for the coronavirus.

The photo, which has been shared around the world, has become a symbol of the head-on collision between the pandemic and the richest, most unequal democracy in the developed world. A nation with incredible levels of poverty even at the peak of what had been, up until a month ago, one of the longest economic booms in its recent history, and in whose cities, in the shadow of the cranes and building sites, more than half a million people sleep in the cold (586,000, according to the latest census).

After decades of intentional erosion of social safety nets, often all it takes is a larger utility bill or, as a typical example, an unforeseen health care cost, to face eviction. Then, the chasm of the street opens up - the edge of a slippery slope leading to the margins of society.

The plight of the homeless remains one of the most shameful aspects of a society structured around the enrichment of an oligarchy that now also holds executive power. But it is not only the structural weakness of liberal America, highlighted by the virus, that has led to the photo from Las Vegas.

Aside from management issues related to federalism (at least while the White House is home to a national populist demagogue and his incompetent dynasty of unsightly minions), the global epidemic is sweeping across a country in which 30 million citizens do not have access to health care. In which there is no public health care coverage, nor is health care considered a right of citizenship. Instead, it is accepted that hospitals are health care businesses governed by budgetary demands, and under other circumstances, such an influx of paying patients would be a plus for their balance sheet.

However, as many health directors openly lament, epidemics, with their huge demands and the stress they place on equipment and personnel, do not conform to this business model. Not only that, but they damage the “core business” of health care: operations and billable visits. The other side of this disastrous system is private insurance – a hypertrophic $900 billion colossus of an industry with a turnover dependent on citizens’ illnesses, sustained by a massive lobby that ensures it political favor in Washington. The insurers have already announced that, beyond the possibility of delaying payment, there will be no discounts for health care – every patient will have to pay their premiums and deductibles.

The death of a 19-year-old from Lancaster, California, that seemed at first to have occurred after he was turned away from the hospital for not having health insurance, now appears to have happened in the ambulance en route. But every American knows that it’s a matter of time that similar cases will occur throughout a country in which the first bedside visitor in the emergency room after the fever subsides is often the financial specialist, who assesses the patient’s bank account.

Privatized health care was, therefore, already a horrific emergenc

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Monday, April 20, 2020 7:59 PM

I'm not going to quote that novel you posted in a re-post.

I'll just say that maybe California should be giving more money to the homeless instead of to illegal aliens.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, April 20, 2020 8:43 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm not going to quote that novel you posted in a re-post.

I'll just say that maybe California should be giving more money to the homeless instead of to illegal aliens.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

You don't want to quote this paragraph because it describes you and the GOP? "It’s not unusual to hear Fox News commentators or Republican politicians express the idea that excessive social and health care assistance will encourage those who are weak (of character) to take advantage. This reflects an ideological system imbued with supremacist and eugenic reasoning that is today openly expressed through the idea of herd immunity and a willingness to sacrifice the old and weak."


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, April 20, 2020 9:15 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm not going to quote that novel you posted in a re-post.

I'll just say that maybe California should be giving more money to the homeless instead of to illegal aliens.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

You don't want to quote this paragraph because it describes you and the GOP?




Nope. Because it's TL;DR and more bullshit from your left-wingnut idiots and not worth the time to read.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, April 20, 2020 10:06 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm not going to quote that novel you posted in a re-post.

I'll just say that maybe California should be giving more money to the homeless instead of to illegal aliens.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

You don't want to quote this paragraph because it describes you and the GOP?




Nope. Because it's TL;DR and more bullshit from your left-wingnut idiots and not worth the time to read.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

One sentence is enough to describe 6ix and Trump and GOP Senators and even many millions of GOP voters: "This reflects an ideological system imbued with supremacist and eugenic reasoning that is today openly expressed through the idea of herd immunity and a willingness to sacrifice the old and weak."

"Sacrifice the old and weak" is an idea 6ix and Trump have been promoting as far as Covid-19.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, April 21, 2020 3:47 AM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm not going to quote that novel you posted in a re-post.

I'll just say that maybe California should be giving more money to the homeless instead of to illegal aliens.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

You don't want to quote this paragraph because it describes you and the GOP?




Nope. Because it's TL;DR and more bullshit from your left-wingnut idiots and not worth the time to read.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

One sentence is enough to describe 6ix and Trump and GOP Senators and even many millions of GOP voters: "This reflects an ideological system imbued with supremacist and eugenic reasoning that is today openly expressed through the idea of herd immunity and a willingness to sacrifice the old and weak."

"Sacrifice the old and weak" is an idea 6ix and Trump have been promoting as far as Covid-19.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




Sure buddy.

I seriously doubt that Eugenics is a "GOP Thing".

But I AM certainly down with it. I don't give a shit who else is.

Weak and stupid people shouldn't be breeding any taking up my oxygen. Sadly for you, a majority of the weak and stupid people in this country happen to be Democrats. That makes no matter to me. I can see why it bothers you though.



And, FYI, letting the old die in homes because they're old is not Eugenics, stupid.

They're far too old to procreate and therefore, dead or alive, have zero effect on any attempt at Eugenics.



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Tuesday, April 21, 2020 3:54 AM

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And, FYI, letting the old die in homes because they're old is not Eugenics, stupid.

Though it's a very NAZI thing. But yanno, if you're going to make them die anyway, why not extract as much out of them as possible before AND after death! So JACK can get his sense of entitlement fulfilled.



arbeit macht frei

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Tuesday, April 21, 2020 3:58 AM

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JACK:
And, FYI, letting the old die in homes because they're old is not Eugenics, stupid.

Though it's a very NAZI thing. But yanno, if you're going to make them die anyway, why not extract as much out of them as possible before AND after death! So JACK can get his sense of entitlement fulfilled.



arbeit macht frei



Explain to me how it's a NAZI thing, Karen.

Because your knowledge of history sucks if you really believe that to be the case.




And "extract" what, BTW?

Fucking boomers ruined the economy and are dying with nothing to pass on to their children after squandering the wealth of the nation.

Good riddance. Can't come soon enough.

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Tuesday, April 21, 2020 4:05 AM

Isn't that you in a (heh heh) NUTshell? Work or die? Be productive or kick off?

arbeit macht frei - eh JACK?

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