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Quote:Well, maybe Texas is in play anyway as the OPEC++ deal collapses along with WTI (West Texas intermediate) prices ... but only if the dems get rid of Biden.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I can see the logic in that SECOND. Regular oil production in the US might survive $20, but shale (fracking) oil for sure wouldn't. If shale oil craters, people will blame Trump (and not the fact that's its high production costs are only supportable with both near-zero interest rates and high oil prices at the same time). And that might cost him Texas. I know how unstable the Texas economy is, since it's been balanced on oil for many decades - 40 that I know of personally. As oil goes, so goes the Texas economy.
California is already gone. If Texas goes, it could cost Trump the electoral college.
Trump HAS to make the OPEC+ production cut work, even if it means guaranteeing that the cuts Mexico refused to make will be made by the US instead.
"Oil prices cratered today - completely shrugging off the OPEC+ deal as if it never happened - following IMF slashing global growth expectations and the Saudis launching a price war (heavily discounting crude). WTI broke below $20 and Brent below $30"
Trump All Over The Place On Oil Prices
Indeed, are we surprised? But he has reached a new level of hypocrisy on all this.
So a while ago when oil prices began falling sharply, Trump bragged about how much this was going to help consumers, and he should get credit for it, of course.
More recently, since WTI crude and even Brent fell below $30 per barrel (with WTI just over 20 right now, and Brent just over 30), he became worried about his pals in the oil patches of Texas, Oklahoma, and North Dakota, with Putin and MbS openly declaring they want to put US frackers out of business, oh dear. So Trump piled in to strong arm Putin and MbS into supposedly making a production cut deal, maybe 10 mbpd, although unclear either of them actually following through. This got about a day or two’s worth of a blip in the prices. https://oilprice.com/oil-price-charts/45
But now we find out that Trump has not agreed to any cuts in US production, and the prices have proceeded to plunge again, for better or worse.
This has led to something almost unheard of in more than half a century, the Texas Railroad Commission. It has authority over how much oil can be pumped in Texas, and it and its equivalent in Oklahoma are apparently contemplating intervening and on their own reducing production in their states in order to try to prop up prices. There was a time, back in the 1950s, when the Texas RR Commission was effectively OPEC, controlling global marginal production. That has not been the case for many decades, but who knows, maybe they will be back.
But then maybe Trump will not like this, given his recent claims about having “absolute authority” over all state entities and actors. As it is, on this, he does not seem to know what he wants. But what can one expect from somebody who one minute is declaring himself free of “all responsibility” but the next is claiming “absolute authority”?
https://angrybearblog.com/2020/04/trump-all-over-the-place-on-oil-pric
es.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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lol. You of all people don't get to talk about hypocrisy until you fix your own.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:We regret to inform you that Democrats are in array. It is only April, but Joe Biden is the presumptive presidential nominee, and nearly all of the major figures within the Democratic Party are aligning behind his candidacy. Actors from across the coalition are behaving rationally and refusing to let the perfect be the enemy of the good, united in their shared focus on making Donald Trump a one-term president. How is this happening so smoothly? Where is the real Democratic Party hiding?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol. You of all people don't get to talk about hypocrisy until you fix your own.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/04/joe-biden-endorsements-vp-
2020-election.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:We regret to inform you that Democrats are in array. It is only April, but Joe Biden is the presumptive presidential nominee, and nearly all of the major figures within the Democratic Party are aligning behind his candidacy. Actors from across the coalition are behaving rationally and refusing to let the perfect be the enemy of the good, united in their shared focus on making Donald Trump a one-term president. How is this happening so smoothly? Where is the real Democratic Party hiding?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol. You of all people don't get to talk about hypocrisy until you fix your own.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/04/joe-biden-endorsements-vp-
2020-election.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
We all know that Democrats are all hypocrites at the core, but I'm talking about you specifically, Second. For every two posts you make on any given day you contradict yourself at least once.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by second:Quote:We regret to inform you that Democrats are in array. It is only April, but Joe Biden is the presumptive presidential nominee, and nearly all of the major figures within the Democratic Party are aligning behind his candidacy. Actors from across the coalition are behaving rationally and refusing to let the perfect be the enemy of the good, united in their shared focus on making Donald Trump a one-term president. How is this happening so smoothly? Where is the real Democratic Party hiding?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol. You of all people don't get to talk about hypocrisy until you fix your own.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/04/joe-biden-endorsements-vp-
2020-election.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
I love this post.
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Quote:You're doing what Trump is doing -- endlessly pointing out imaginary faults in your enemies. This headline cracks me up:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
We all know that Democrats are all hypocrites at the core, but I'm talking about you specifically, Second. For every two posts you make on any given day you contradict yourself at least once.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Trump Relents, says States will decide when to lift restrictions
Trump “relents.” Sure. Does anyone think for even a minute that Trump ever wanted total control over reopening the economy—or any other aspect of the COVID-19 pandemic? He spent two months telling us it was no big deal, and ever since then he’s done nothing but blame it on other people. He’s blamed China. He’s blamed WHO. He’s blamed Obama. He’s blamed the states. He’s blamed unnamed experts who failed to tell him anything was going on. He’s blamed the media. He’s blamed General Motors. He’s blamed hospitals.
In the meantime, the only concrete action he’s taken has been putting Jared in charge of a dodgy airlift operation that allows him to distribute medical supplies at his personal whim.
Trump doesn’t have a clue what to do about a pandemic that can’t be removed from the front pages by simply distracting everyone with some random, outrageous comment. So all that’s left is to make sure that someone else gets the blame for it. To that end, his “total control” comment worked great: it suckered everyone into being outraged and demanding that he acknowledge state control. Now he’s pretending to relent when that was almost certainly his goal in the first place. You wanted state control, you got it.
Animal cunning, boys and girls. Always remember that. Trump may not be book smart, but his animal cunning quotient is off the charts.
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2020/04/trump-never-wanted-total-contro
l-over-the-pandemic/
Trump's Odds of Winning Reelection: 51% which is pretty good considering how many people he killed with his incompetence and how bad he is at doing actual work, not the running off at the mouth, which is not part of his job description.
https://odds.watch/trump-2020
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:You're doing what Trump is doing -- endlessly pointing out imaginary faults in your enemies.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
We all know that Democrats are all hypocrites at the core, but I'm talking about you specifically, Second. For every two posts you make on any given day you contradict yourself at least once.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Don't flatter yourself. You're not my enemy. You're just some anonymous idiot I know about on a long defunct website that 8 people still post on.
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This headline cracks me up:
Everything you post cracks me up.
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Donald Trump Has Done Almost Nothing for the Working and Middle Classes
If you’re wondering whose interests Trump considers important, all you have to do is look at his actions:
1) Given a chance to intervene in oil prices, he chose to raise them. This was good for the oil industry but not so good for American gasoline purchasers.
2) He tried to take away Obamacare without any kind of effective replacement. This would have reduced taxes on the affluent while denying the working classes one of their key sources of affordable health care.
3) His tax cut in 2017 was almost entirely aimed at corporations and the rich. The rest of us got close to nothing.
4) He promised he was the best thing ever for farmers, but his tariff war destroyed our agricultural markets in China.
5) He is currently supporting a Republican war against the Post Office. This will probably help private package delivery services but hurt rural areas far more than urban areas.
6) Manufacturing workers? When Trump took office they made up 8.5 percent of the workforce. Today they make up 8.4 percent and their hourly earnings have lagged the rest of the labor force. Meanwhile, corporate profits have jumped by 14 percent. That’s good for the rich but not so good for workers.
7) In the coronavirus bill, he was concerned almost exclusively with bailing out businesses. His only sop to the working and middle classes was a one-time $1,200 check that his Treasury Secretary seemed to think would tide a family over for ten weeks. Meanwhile, it was up to Democrats to provide real assistance in the form of increased unemployment benefits, help for hospitals, and help for schools.
8) Trump’s tariff war with China has cost middle-class families $500-1000 each. It’s not paid by China and it’s not a tax on corporations, who pass it along to consumers. It’s basically a tax on everyone who buys inexpensive things from overseas—which is mostly the middle class. The affluent escape most of the tax.
I understand entirely that rational arguments like this have only a limited effect in presidential elections. But surely they have some effect? There must be at least an appreciable chunk of the working and middle classes who are open to the argument that Trump has talked big but hasn’t really done much for them. When it comes to concrete campaign promises with a dollar sign in front of them, Trump has been great about keeping his promises to big business and the wealthy. It’s only his promises to the middle class that he’s broken.
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2020/04/trump-has-done-almost-nothing-f
or-the-working-and-middle-classes/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:You're doing what Trump is doing -- endlessly pointing out imaginary faults in your enemies. This headline cracks me up:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
We all know that Democrats are all hypocrites at the core, but I'm talking about you specifically, Second. For every two posts you make on any given day you contradict yourself at least once.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Trump Relents, says States will decide when to lift restrictions
Trump “relents.” Sure. Does anyone think for even a minute that Trump ever wanted total control over reopening the economy—or any other aspect of the COVID-19 pandemic? He spent two months telling us it was no big deal, and ever since then he’s done nothing but blame it on other people. He’s blamed China. He’s blamed WHO. He’s blamed Obama. He’s blamed the states. He’s blamed unnamed experts who failed to tell him anything was going on. He’s blamed the media. He’s blamed General Motors. He’s blamed hospitals.
In the meantime, the only concrete action he’s taken has been putting Jared in charge of a dodgy airlift operation that allows him to distribute medical supplies at his personal whim.
Trump doesn’t have a clue what to do about a pandemic that can’t be removed from the front pages by simply distracting everyone with some random, outrageous comment.
History will show...
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