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https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/7/bernie-sanders-proceed
ing-wisconsin-primary-corona/
Bernie Sanders: Proceeding with Wisconsin primary in coronavirus crisis 'may very well prove deadly'
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Democrats - anybody but Biden!
And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?
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Biden’s Electability Only Works if There Is an Election
In the Democratic primary, 97 percent of polling places in Milwaukee were closed during the “election”; the thousands of people who turned out anyway risked their lives to stand in line. No one could plausibly describe what took place in Wisconsin as a democratic election.
As such, it was the perfect conclusion to Joe Biden’s victory in the 2020 Democratic nominating contest. A decisive non-event wrapped up a primary season in which nearly half the states never had any say before it was over, and the majority of people who did vote were focused on trying to guess which candidate someone else would be most likely to want to vote for. In the swirl of anxiety over the question of electability against Donald Trump, the basic act of electing someone got pulled under and drowned.
The 2020 primary didn’t even make sense as a spectator event. By most meta-electoral standards, Joe Biden was on his way to a quick, crushing loss. His name recognition and generic support in national polling utterly failed to win anyone over in the face-to-face politicking of Iowa or New Hampshire. His institutional endorsements meant nothing in Nevada. His fundraising was feeble, especially next to the mass-scale small-donation machine Sanders had built. He was visibly weary, stumbling over his delivery of the simplest lines, devoid of any identifiable message or purpose beyond the personally and nationally impossible goal of turning back the calendar to how things were before.
And then, in a span of less than four full days, he was the nominee. Loyal Democratic voters came out heavily for him in South Carolina, and in a startling spectacle the rest of the field, save Sanders and Warren, folded immediately and lined up to endorse him—specifically, explicitly, as the candidate who people believed their neighbors would vote for to beat Trump. Nominating an avowed socialist, or a woman with a reformist agenda, whatever promise either embodied, risked distracting voters from the single, binary question on the November ballot: whether or not to get rid of the man currently in the White House.
More at https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/04/biden-won-without-votes.ht
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Sounds to me like maybe Biden's current electability was only because there wasn't an election.
Whoever wrote that doesn't know what they're trying to say.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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SECOND - if you're trying to say that democrats have a long history of selling out the average voter, that their platforms reflect a deep disrespect for the average voter, that their 'demographics' strategy is a non-starter with the average voter, and that they don't have a deep bench, well, I've been saying that since before the 2016 election. Yanno, if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?
It's not enough to just be anti-Trump. In fact, most people look on that with disdain as being utterly bankrupt partisanship. You have to be a real alternative in people's minds if you want to get their votes ... or, as they say, be 'electable'. Yanno, if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?
Meanwhile, I hope you're not pinning your hopes on Trump's performance with COVID-19. Because if you are, I think you'll be sorely disappointed.
Here are some COVID-19 stats: cases/ 1M
New York 9,655
New Jersey 6,964
Louisiana 4,416
Massachusetts 3,730
Connecticut 3,360
District Of Columbia 2,739
Rhode Island 2,522
Michigan 2,474
Pennsylvania 1,792
Delaware 1,711
USA Total 1,693
Unless you lived directly in the bullseye, (and assuming there's no resurgence), you will probably not ever know anyone who had serious COVID-19. You'll probably not even know anyone who had COVID-19 at all. I believe that was due to social distancing, so those people got the benefit of blissful, ignorant, non-experience. And I think Trump's capabilities were less than zero - he was and is an actual impediment to a good response. (For the record, I believe that response should be requiring people to wear N95 or N100 masks in public. And vaccines or antibody certificates are both technically indefensible as well as democratically perilous.) But the fact is, all that 0.17% or fewer of the population will experience from COVID-19 is loss of employment and empty grocery shelves. The disease itself is a non-entity to them. So any ineptness or even regressions regarding COVID-19 will also be non-entities to them. And what they WILL remember about Trump is his criticizing the loss of jobs. COVID-19 isn't exactly a winning strategy for democrats, either.
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Originally posted by second:
Inside America’s 2-Decade Failure to Prepare for Coronavirus
Top officials from three administrations describe how crucial lessons were learned and lost, programs launched and canceled, and budgets funded and defunded.
“In advance of a pandemic, anything you say sounds alarmist. After a pandemic starts, everything you’ve done is inadequate.”
After each major health crisis of the last two decades, American health and political leaders have launched preparedness programs and issued blunt warnings to their successors — only to watch as those programs were defunded, staff was allowed to depart and Washington forgot the stark lessons it had just learned.
More at www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/04/11/america-two-decade-failure-p
repare-coronavirus-179574
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Trump, you're killing people! Lots of people!
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Deep state describes dedicated, educated professionals.
Dr. Fauci: 'It Became Clear That We Were In Real Trouble' With Coronavirus Mid-January. Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's top infectious disease expert spoke about when he knew the coronavirus was getting serious. Fauci said, as soon as there was “community spread…then it became clear that we were in real trouble…that was towards the middle to end of January.”
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Deep state describes dedicated, educated professionals.
'The president, though, was slow to absorb the scale of the risk and to act accordingly' on the coronavirus.
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Quote:How about the price of gasoline? So many voters buy, but so few understand how the price is set. Trump is raising the price by joining with OPEC:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Unless you lived directly in the bullseye, (and assuming there's no resurgence), you will probably not ever know anyone who had serious COVID-19.
Saudi Arabia, Russia and the U.S. agreed to lead a multinational coalition in major oil-production cuts after a drop in demand due to the coronavirus crisis and a Saudi-Russian feud devastated oil prices. The deal, sealed Sunday, came after President Trump intervened to help resolve a Saudi-Mexico standoff that jeopardized the broader pact.
www.wsj.com/articles/opec-allies-look-to-resolve-saudi-mexico-standoff
-and-seal-broader-oil-deal-11586695794
It was only yesterday that Trump did this.
Vote Trump! Get Cheated at the Gas Pump!
It was only last month Trump did what is in the following story, and voters have already forgotten. They will just as quickly forget gasoline. Trump has no worries based on what he has done because voters can't remember.
www.nytimes.com/2020/04/11/us/politics/coronavirus-trump-response.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:How about the price of gasoline? So many voters buy, but so few understand how the price is set. Trump is raising the price by joining with OPEC:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Unless you lived directly in the bullseye, (and assuming there's no resurgence), you will probably not ever know anyone who had serious COVID-19.
Saudi Arabia, Russia and the U.S. agreed to lead a multinational coalition in major oil-production cuts after a drop in demand due to the coronavirus crisis and a Saudi-Russian feud devastated oil prices. The deal, sealed Sunday, came after President Trump intervened to help resolve a Saudi-Mexico standoff that jeopardized the broader pact.
www.wsj.com/articles/opec-allies-look-to-resolve-saudi-mexico-standoff
-and-seal-broader-oil-deal-11586695794
It was only yesterday that Trump did this.
Vote Trump! Get Cheated at the Gas Pump!
Did you read the whole story, or were you blocked by a paywall?
https://web.archive.org/web/20200413132702/https://www.wsj.com/article
s/opec-allies-look-to-resolve-saudi-mexico-standoff-and-seal-broader-oil-deal-11586695794
WSJ is blocked on archive sites too. Feel free to post the whole story.
There's a lot more to this than simply "raising prices". Few might understand how the price is set, but even fewer understand what a crashing oil price could do to destabilize countries worldwide... particularly those who aren't very friendly with us even during good times.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Trump joined OPEC to raise the price of Texas oil and the price of gasoline that voters will be buying between now and November. Too bad voters won't understand that. He certainly did NOT do it to help oil exporting countries that depend on petroleum to keep their central governments from collapsing. It is bullshit, 6ix, when you suggest Trump did care about crashing prices "destabilizing countries worldwide". He does NOT care beyond making sure the majority of Texans votes for him in November.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
There's a lot more to this than simply "raising prices". Few might understand how the price is set, but even fewer understand what a crashing oil price could do to destabilize countries worldwide... particularly those who aren't very friendly with us even during good times.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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