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Saturday, April 4, 2020 8:12 AM

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Originally posted by second:
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No I didn't.

Muslim terrorists obeying their brainwashing and willing to die for their "God" weren't 125 nanometers in diameter. Neither, of course, were the planes they were downing.

Apples and Orange.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Convince me you understand this story:

Donald Trump Did Nothing to Stop the Export of Respirator Masks

The 3M mask story keeps getting weirder, and neither 3M nor the Trump administration seems eager to provide details of exactly what their dispute is about. However, it’s been widely reported that 280 million masks were sold overseas in a single day from a single seller last month even though American health care workers were desperate for them. This number originates from a Forbes story by David DiSalvo, who spent a day in mid-March with a mask broker named Remington Schmidt:

When contacting potential buyers, Remington needs two things to secure a deal with a seller: a letter of intent to purchase and proof of funds. “If you are working with a seller who has masks but you can’t quickly show proof of funds, someone else is going to buy them,” he told me.

And I watched that happen repeatedly throughout the day. Buyers from state procurement departments and hospital systems expressed desperate need for masks, but the deals bogged down when it came to providing proof that they could commit and follow through. In the meantime, another buyer provided proof of funds and the masks were gone, sometimes within the hour.

By the end of the day, roughly 280 million masks from warehouses around the U.S. had been purchased by foreign buyers and were earmarked to leave the country, according to the broker — and that was in one day. To his knowledge none of the masks had been purchased by buyers in the U.S.

Halting these shipments didn’t require use of the Defense Procurement Act. It required two things: (a) an executive order banning the export of masks and (b) purchasing authority for FEMA to buy as many masks as it wants.

These are things President Trump could have done two weeks ago with a stroke of his pen. No new legislative authority would have been required.

6ix, if you understand the story then you understand Trump is worthless as a President. Trump is arguing with 3M now to hide his negligence from last month.

www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2020/04/donald-trump-did-nothing-to-sto
p-the-export-of-respirator-masks
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly





While you're at trying to figure out why we're giving away respirators to foreign countries now, go ahead and figure out why we give billions of dollars to foreign countries too.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, April 4, 2020 6:28 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

While you're at trying to figure out why we're giving away respirators to foreign countries now, go ahead and figure out why we give billions of dollars to foreign countries too.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6ix, here is another Trump failure. Today it is important because yesterday Trump was requiring face masks:

April 3, 2020 at 12:27 p.m. CDT

In September 2018, the Trump administration received detailed plans for a new machine designed to churn out millions of protective respirator masks at high speed during a pandemic.

The plans, submitted to the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) by medical manufacturer O&M Halyard, were the culmination of a venture unveiled almost three years earlier by the Obama administration.

But HHS did not proceed with making the machine.

The project was one of two N95 mask ventures — totaling $9.8 million — that the federal government embarked on over the past five years to better prepare for pandemics.

The other involves the development of reusable masks to replace the single-use variety currently so scarce that medical professionals are using theirs over and over. Expert panels have advised the government for at least 14 years that reusable masks were vital.

That effort, like the quick mask machine, has not led to a single new mask for the government’s response.

“The Halyard contract was part of an explicit strategy to ensure we could surge mask production in the next crisis,” said Nicole Lurie, who was the HHS assistant secretary for preparedness and response under Barack Obama. “Now we’re dealing with the consequences of not having that capability.”

Halyard said Thursday in a statement that its work on the government contract was completed in September 2018. A spokeswoman declined to give additional details.

Photo of a box of Halyard-brand surgical masks. (Gado Images/Sipa USA/AP)

An HHS spokesperson, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, told The Washington Post that although Halyard’s plans were feasible, no funding was available to build the machine. (That is a lie about "no funding". How do we know? This is how:)

HHS’s Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority, or BARDA, the department that solicited the Halyard design, had a budget of nearly $1.5 billion for 2020, according to an HHS report.

www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/federal-government-spent-million
s-to-ramp-up-mask-readiness-but-that-isnt-helping-now/2020/04/03/d62dda5c-74fa-11ea-a9bd-9f8b593300d0_story.html


Trump failed again as President. Was it too hard for you to understand the details about face masks, 6ix?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, April 4, 2020 7:37 PM

If you want to make the case for major changes due to COVID-19, I suppose your best bet is to analogize it to the Black Plague, which killed a third of Europe. So be careful with your analogies given that COVID-19 is likely to kill more like 0.1 percent of Europe. After the Black Plague was over, the Renaissance blossomed in Italy and labor-saving devices became more popular. Interest in science flourished and that led directly to the Age of Reason and then to our own enlightened era. As it so happens, I think a similar big change is coming soon thanks to robots and artificial intelligence.
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2020/04/heres-what-the-pandemic-is-like
ly-to-change
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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THG
Saturday, April 4, 2020 8:16 PM

Trump Organization has laid off about 1,500 employees as pandemic hits business

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/trump-organization-has-laid-
off-about-1-500-employees-as-pandemic-hits-business/ar-BB129anb?ocid=msedgntp


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Saturday, April 4, 2020 9:31 PM

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Trump failed again as President. Was it too hard for you to understand the details about face masks, 6ix?



From your WaPo article:

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Expert panels have advised the government for at least 14 years that reusable masks were vital.



Apparently it's too hard for you and the WaPo to understand what 14 years means.

That means that it's also another failure of GWB's last two years of office, and all 8 hideous years of Obama's as well.



Your TDS is gross.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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THG
Sunday, April 5, 2020 12:24 AM

Americans stuck as last flight out of Russia stopped on tarmac

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/americans-stuck-as-last-flight-ou
t-of-russia-stopped-on-tarmac/ar-BB129b0i?ocid=msedgntp


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THG
Sunday, April 5, 2020 12:27 AM

At least 70 people infected with coronavirus linked to a single church, health officials say

A large and influential Russian language church near Sacramento, California, is denying it is at the center of a novel coronavirus outbreak.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/at-least-70-people-infected-with-cor
onavirus-linked-to-a-single-church-health-officials-say/ar-BB12973o?ocid=msedgntp


Wonder if this is sig and kiki's church. Well comrades???

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Sunday, April 5, 2020 2:02 AM

So far the only place in Canada to not report a case of Covid-19 is Nunavut. Yukon and the NorthWest Territories have the least number of cases.

Quebec is hardest hit followed by Ontario then BC which is followed by Alberta.

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THG
Sunday, April 5, 2020 3:32 AM

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So far the only place in Canada to not report a case of Covid-19 is Nunavut. Yukon and the NorthWest Territories have the least number of cases.

Quebec is hardest hit followed by Ontario then BC which is followed by Alberta.



Best of luck Canada. Stay strong...

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Sunday, April 5, 2020 4:06 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by second:
Trump failed again as President. Was it too hard for you to understand the details about face masks, 6ix?



From your WaPo article:

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Expert panels have advised the government for at least 14 years that reusable masks were vital.



Apparently it's too hard for you and the WaPo to understand what 14 years means.

That means that it's also another failure of GWB's last two years of office, and all 8 hideous years of Obama's as well.

Your TDS is gross.

6ix, stop using TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) about stuff you and Trump don't understand. It takes years to design a machine, even if you need it immediately for a war. One example: Here is a project that only took 4.5 years from start to finish:
B-29 -- In December 1939, the Air Corps issued a formal specification for a so-called "superbomber". First flight 21 Sept 1942; First combat mission 5 June 1944. Unit cost US$639,188 (Prototype cost five times more: $3,392,396.60.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_B-29_Superfortress

Trump stopped the N95 Quick Face Mask machine project before the prototype was built. I guess he saw the price ($3,392,396.60) as too high, not realizing that after a few were built, it would get cheaper ($639,188). Trump wasted years when the prototype should have been built and debugged and then finalized.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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