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new deadly human-to-human-transmissible coronavirus emerges out of China

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Sunday, March 29, 2020 2:15 AM

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/abbott-labs-unveils-portable-te
st-can-detect-covid-19-under-5-minutes


This could be a game-changer. It's not mass-testing, and I'm sure the kits are expensive on a per-test basis, but if you can QUICKLY identify people with COVID-19, you can also QUICKLY move them through the appropriate procedures.

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Sunday, March 29, 2020 2:42 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
So, looking at the various graphs at worldOmeter, it's obvious both China and Korea have beaten the virus back, for now.

China is relaxing restrictions, with caveats. People who don't have a green health card are still under mandatory quarantine. I don't trust their numbers, but if relaxing restrictions becomes enough of a problem, sooner or later it'll be obvious. SK is still maintaining intensive testing, social distancing, public mask-wearing, and contact tracing.



Any word on whether or not the rumor that 21 Million cell phone plans in China were cancelled overnight is true and if that relates at all to the true number of sick and/or dead in China?

I've heard that several times now, but haven't seen any definitive proof if it was just made up or if there is something to it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, March 29, 2020 4:20 AM

Here are 2 links to the story (which google/ duck didn't bring up, I went to gibiru for them) -

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https://www.ibtimes.sg/china-hiding-covid-19-death-toll-21-million-cel
l-phones-disappeared-why-41580

Is China hiding COVID-19 death toll? 21 million cell phones disappeared, why?
~ 21 million cell phone accounts in China were cancelled after coronavirus
~ 840,000 landlines were closed in China
~ This sudden drop suggests a very high Coronavirus death toll

On March 19, China's Ministry of Industry and Information Technology (MIIT) announced the numbers of cell phone users in every province in February. When these numbers are compared to the December 2019 data, it revealed that both cell phone users and landline users dropped dramatically.

The comparison showed that the number of cell phone users decreased from 1.600957 billion to 1.579927 billion, while landline users dropped from 190.83 million to 189.99 million.

It is possible that the nationwide lockdown in February was the reason behind the drop in the numbers of landline users as many companies were shut down, the quarantine scenario can't be a reason behind the drop in the cell phone users.

It should be noted that as per the reports China Telecom is the second-largest carrier which has lost 5.6 million users in February 2020 and lost 0.43 million users in January 2020. China Unicom also lost 1.186 million users in January 2020.

While the drop in these numbers showed a dramatic scenario in China, Tang said, "It's possible that some migrant workers had two cell phone numbers before. One is from their hometown, and the other is from the city they work in. In February, they might close the number in the city they work in because they couldn't go there."

It is possible that these workers may have gone to their home city for the Chinese New Year and after the travel ban, they did not get a chance to come back to China. It should be noted that in China there is a basic monthly fee to hold a cell phone account and the majority of migrant workers, who belong to the lowest income group, likely only have one cell phone account.

The economic downturn caused by the outbreak could have forced the Chinese people, who have two cell phones to cancel one of them.

While explaining the scenario in China, Tang said,"At present, we don't know the details of the data. If only 10 percent of the cell phone accounts were closed because the users died because of the CCP virus [Novel Coronavirus], the death toll would be two million."



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https://www.theepochtimes.com/the-closing-of-21-million-cell-phone-acc
ounts-in-china-may-suggest-a-high-ccp-virus-death-toll_3281291.html

21 Million Fewer Cellphone Users in China May Suggest a High CCP Virus Death Toll

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Sunday, March 29, 2020 4:43 AM

There's a difference between trying to control the spread of a virus, and trying to avoid getting the virus.

This article was written about studies done during the SARS epidemic, in hospital settings where patient contact is inevitable, close and intense, but individually limited in time and very specific (ie not all-day and potentially low-level). The data indicates that if you want to avoid getting the virus:

handwashing more than 10 times daily will reduce your chances to about half, as will wearing gloves,
wearing surgical masks will reduce your chances of getting a virus to about a third,
wearing N95 masks will reduce your chances to a tenth,
wearing gowns to about a quarter,
handwashing, masks, gloves, and gowns combined will reduce your chances to a tenth, the same as wearing an N95 mask.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2190272/

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Sunday, March 29, 2020 5:29 AM

Oh jeez...

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On Saturday, the Los Angeles Times noted the COVID-19 death of a 25-year-old pharmacy technician with no underlying health issues, whose body was found on Wednesday at a home in the Coachella valley neighborhood of La Quinta where they were in self-quarantine. The San Diego resident's identity has not been disclosed.
https://www.zerohedge.com/health/25-year-old-california-man-no-underly
ing-conditions-dies-covid-19


Not that someone died but that they died at home, without any treatment.

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Sunday, March 29, 2020 5:43 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Here are 2 links to the story (which google/ duck didn't bring up, I went to gibiru for them) -

Quote:

https://www.ibtimes.sg/china-hiding-covid-19-death-toll-21-million-cel
l-phones-disappeared-why-41580

Is China hiding COVID-19 death toll? 21 million cell phones disappeared, why?
~ 21 million cell phone accounts in China were cancelled after coronavirus
~ 840,000 landlines were closed in China
~ This sudden drop suggests a very high Coronavirus death toll

On March 19, China's Ministry of Industry and Information Technology (MIIT) announced the numbers of cell phone users in every province in February. When these numbers are compared to the December 2019 data, it revealed that both cell phone users and landline users dropped dramatically.

The comparison showed that the number of cell phone users decreased from 1.600957 billion to 1.579927 billion, while landline users dropped from 190.83 million to 189.99 million.

It is possible that the nationwide lockdown in February was the reason behind the drop in the numbers of landline users as many companies were shut down, the quarantine scenario can't be a reason behind the drop in the cell phone users.

It should be noted that as per the reports China Telecom is the second-largest carrier which has lost 5.6 million users in February 2020 and lost 0.43 million users in January 2020. China Unicom also lost 1.186 million users in January 2020.

While the drop in these numbers showed a dramatic scenario in China, Tang said, "It's possible that some migrant workers had two cell phone numbers before. One is from their hometown, and the other is from the city they work in. In February, they might close the number in the city they work in because they couldn't go there."

It is possible that these workers may have gone to their home city for the Chinese New Year and after the travel ban, they did not get a chance to come back to China. It should be noted that in China there is a basic monthly fee to hold a cell phone account and the majority of migrant workers, who belong to the lowest income group, likely only have one cell phone account.

The economic downturn caused by the outbreak could have forced the Chinese people, who have two cell phones to cancel one of them.

While explaining the scenario in China, Tang said,"At present, we don't know the details of the data. If only 10 percent of the cell phone accounts were closed because the users died because of the CCP virus [Novel Coronavirus], the death toll would be two million."



Quote:

https://www.theepochtimes.com/the-closing-of-21-million-cell-phone-acc
ounts-in-china-may-suggest-a-high-ccp-virus-death-toll_3281291.html

21 Million Fewer Cellphone Users in China May Suggest a High CCP Virus Death Toll





Well... the article jumps directly to death being a cause, but shows two extreme reasons why it might have happened.

By the logic they're presenting in the article itself, it could just be that 2 million people got sick and were quarantined and cancelled a 2nd cell phone too since they were no longer able to work, and doesn't necessarily mean they all actually died.

I doubt we'll ever have any answers to anything that happened in China. Their near complete government control affords them that ability, even though such an idea almost sounds preposterous to Americans in 2020.


I'd view any numbers that China has ever provided regarding total cases, total recoveries and total deaths with extreme skepticism.

Johns Hopkins should probably just put asterisks by all of those numbers if we're going to be real about it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, March 29, 2020 6:15 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Here are 2 links to the story (which google/ duck didn't bring up, I went to gibiru for them)

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Well... the article jumps directly to death being a cause, but shows two extreme reasons why it might have happened.

You're welcome for finding and posting 2 links to your random question, so you could go read them in full and draw your own conclusions.

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Sunday, March 29, 2020 6:20 AM

Thank you.

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Sunday, March 29, 2020 1:14 PM


George Fu Gao
Can you imagine this man crying?

The Lost Month: How a Failure to Test Blinded the U.S. to Covid-19
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/28/us/testing-coronavirus-pandemic.htm
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Sunday, March 29, 2020 2:08 PM

I read the article. Oh, what a fuckup at the CDC and FDA. Thanks for the link.

Yanno, it boggles my mind that lower-level CDC minions didn't take the initiative to resolve the testing issue. Being a loer-level minion myself, it was up to my team to create tests that new - and sometimes urgent progams - required. At times we created these tests before the upper-ups even knew they needed them. I guess the staff at CDC feel micromanaged bc nobody felt empowered to take the bull by the horns, so to speak, and fix the fuckup.

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