new deadly human-to-human-transmissible coronavirus emerges out of China
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Oh... and to help ease your fears about the Italy anomaly...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/99-25-of-those-who-died-from-viru
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99% of Those Who Died From Virus Had Other Illness, Italy Says
The new study could provide insight into why Italy’s death rate, at about 8% of total infected people, is higher than in other countries.
The Rome-based institute has examined medical records of about 18% of the country’s coronavirus fatalities, finding that just three victims, or 0.8% of the total, had no previous pathology. Almost half of the victims suffered from at least three prior illnesses and about a fourth had either one or two previous conditions.
More than 75% had high blood pressure, about 35% had diabetes and a third suffered from heart disease.
The average age of those who’ve died from the virus in Italy is 79.5. As of March 17, 17 people under 50 had died from the disease. All of Italy’s victims under 40 have been males with serious existing medical conditions.
While data released Tuesday point to a slowdown in the increase of cases, with a 12.6% rise, a separate study shows Italy could be underestimating the real number of cases by testing only patients presenting symptoms.
According to the GIMBE Foundation, about 100,000 Italians have contracted the virus, daily Il Sole 24 Ore reported. That would bring back the country’s death rate closer to the global average of about 2%.
Sounds an awful lot like what I've been saying the whole time to me.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Yep, what you've been saying all along: I'm young, my risk factors are low, so fuck the old people.
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Yes, I know, SIX: Truth hurts.
The sad thing is, it isn't even necessary to toss [some] people out of your imaginary lifeboat. This COULD have been handled ... and still COULD be handled ... with lots and lots of testing, which might have meant isolating SOME people (much less economically disruptive) instead of everyone. Once antivirals and vaccines are in play, this collapses down to a somewhat worse-than-average flu, not the economy-altering event that it has become for some, and possibly will be for others.
Do you know what I think, politically-speaking? Trump - never one for details - was taking his cue from BoJo, and BoJo's approach was to "take it on the chin". That is,untila Royal College of London report detailed for him howmany million dead that would mean (There goes your political future, BoJo!) and that report was sent to Trump, which caused his butt to pucker.
I have absolutely no respect for how Trump handled this,just as I have no respect for how Trump prostituted himself to The Fed in order to keep stock prices high. It's THE ECONOMY that needs revamping, not the hedge funds that need bailouts. Shit, if you're going to print money anyway just tell the Fed to blow off, print the money yourself (like the USA is Constitutionally supposed to do) and spend it on revitalizing manufacturing and infrastructure. Tell the rest of the fuckers to go hang. But Trump was too busy playing footsie with the Fed and letting them blow the Everything Bubble.
I realize that this is way off-topic. I support Trump for SOME things, but not everything, and he's done some really stupid shit, including listening to his neocon-in-waiting and playing regime-change games and blowing bubbles when he really should have been attending to home.
Oh,and not paying any attention to the crisis that was lurking around the corner. Now THAT was stupid.
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We'll see in 14 days how this works out.
https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/OPA/Pages/New-Release-2020.aspx
March 20, 2020 1006 / 19
-> stay at home March 19, 2020 (PM)
March 19, 2020 675 / 16
March 18, 2020 288 / 5
March 13, 2020 247 / 5
March 12, 2020 53 / 1
March 2, 2020 43 / 0
February 28, 2020 10 / 0
February 26, 2020 9 / 0
February 2, 2020 6 / 0
January 31, 2020 3 / 0
January 26, 2020 2 / 0
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I predict 20,000 in 3 days from now - March 21 - but really short days! Like /just after midnight on March 21/ days.
Not quite just after midnight. But we'll comfortably blow past 20,000 by the end of the morning.
Next challenge ... something difficult ... when do we hit a half-million? Hmmm ... how about March 20 + ~23 days ... April 14, 2020 if things keep on track. But if all the actions taken by various governments works out, that would change my calculation.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Yep, what you've been saying all along: I'm young, my risk factors are low, so fuck the old people.
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While that's definately not untrue, that's only the far smaller portion of it. It just needs to be said because it's FACT OVER FEELS.
You skipped the part where they're saying that there are at least 100,000 cases of it already in Italy. Not 14,000.
You also skipped the part where 100,000 brings it close to the 2% rate globally.
18,500+ here already brought it down to 1.222%, and there are likely many, many more people that have it.
Kiki just said in a follow up post that it will blow past 20k this morning. That's not because that many new people just got it in the last few days. It's due in large part because testing has only really begun to start.
If there are actually 100k people here that have it, the percentage of dead in this country goes down to .35% even if the dead number goes up to 350 by tomorrow.
If there are 250k people here who already have it, that percentage goes down to .14%, which is not far from flu numbers. If half a million people already have it, we're looking at only .07%.
Now... I'm not one to scream libel and threaten lawsuits, and look down at anybody who does that here as extremely pathetic, but it's really fucking stupid for somebody to claim that I'm doing it, and then continually say that I don't give a fuck about old people when that's not the point I'm trying to make.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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SIX, no matter how you dress it up, justify, or rationalize it, your message is still the same: I'm young and my risk factors are low, so fuck the old people.
Those row of coffins and convoys of military vehicles carrying them? The makeshift ICUs filled with the critically ill,and the hallways of those who were denied care? NO BIG DEAL
A few hundred thousand or a million dying? Not as important as "people" (ie younger people) getting "hurt" economically or politically
This has nothing to do with freedom, or logic, or facts, this all has to do with SIX finally feeling a little less stressed economically and slightly less isolated socially, his exaggerated fears soothed, and then having it all potentially snatched away. I've got mine and you can't take it
It looks like somebody found YOUR price, doesn't it? It is the very low price of SIX being lifted from the life of a sewer rat
I feel sorry for your fears and your pain, I really do. I hope you succeed in life, but you have GOT to start making smarter decisions! This virus is not an "either/or" choice, unless you choose it to be. I know you're smarter than that, SIX. Put on your thinking cap and figure out how everyone can get something positive out of this, assuming that better policies prevail. And if better policies do NOT prevail, then the fault is with the policy-makers, is it not? NOT the people whose necks are on the chopping block, along with yours.
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Quote:https://getpocket.com/explore/item/survival-of-the-friendliest?utm_sou
Violence has been the sire of all the world’s values,” wrote poet Robinson Jeffers in 1940. “What but the wolf’s tooth whittled so fine the fleet limbs of the antelope? What but fear winged the birds, and hunger jeweled with such eyes the great goshawk’s head?”
We’ve taken these metaphors for evolution to heart, reading them to mean that life is a race to kill or be killed. “Darwinian” stands in for “cutthroat,” “survival of the fittest” signifies survival of the ruthless. We see selective pressures that hone each organism for success and drive genetic innovation as the natural order of things.
Two Models of Evolution: The early interpretation of Darwinian evolution as life-or-death contest is being complemented by an understanding of the importance of cooperation. Photo by Martin Harvey / Auscape / Getty Images.
But we know now that that picture is incomplete. Evolutionary progress can be propelled both by the competitive struggle to adapt to an environment, and by the relaxation of selective forces. When natural selection on an organism is relaxed, the creative powers of mutation can be unshackled and evolution accelerated. The relief of an easier life can inspire new biological forms just as powerfully as the threat of death.
One of the best ways to relax selective forces is to work together, something that mathematical biologist Martin Nowak has called the “snuggle for survival.” New research has only deepened and broadened the importance of cooperation and lifting of selective pressures. It’s a big, snuggly world out there.
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I hate to tell you this SIX but evolutionarily-speaking, stong asocial males like you are trash-heap material. Unless you foster the next generation, you're useless to the species.
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:You OBVIOUSLY haven't read one single bit of the news - either that or you're a professional propagandist, sorry, PR flack.
So you went out yesterday, went all over the place as if you were trying to spread the virus or catch it, you had your whiny excuses ...
Do you know what's allowed under Newsom's orders?
I'll wait.
HINT - I posted it in this thread.
You obviously don't understand what a virus is. You try to pass yourself off as some science person, and yet you went out well after social distancing and "stay home unless you have to" common f*kcing sense was well known. And now you want to excuse your lazy thinking by saying some politician said it was ok... sort of?
You should have stayed fracking home, period. You really didn't have food at home? You really needed that 10lb pork roast?
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Not only that, but I was limiting our trips outside the home THREE WEEKS before the "shelter-in-place" order was issued. And I was using a mask then, too.
Oh, yeah ... don't bother to deny that one. I'll bet YOU were going "all over the place" the past three weeks. Bare-faced, too, I'll bet!
Were those masks you're so proud to say you were wearing the same ones that wouldn't protect you from the virus? Were they the same ones you even said were dangerous because they only made people feel safe?
OR were they the ones that hospitals are running out of now? The ones we were told - like were told to isolate and act like we have the virus - that we shouldn't try and buy so our health care providers can have them?
You do a better job of making yourself look like a selfish moron than anyone else can.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
#ISHOULDHAVESTAYEDTHEFUCKHOME
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