Serenity Screener - spoilers

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UPDATED: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 22:13
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LEXIBLOCK

Wednesday, December 22, 2004 3:25 PM

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- A (regular Firefly) character dies along the journey.

That seriously sucks!

TERRYO

Wednesday, December 22, 2004 3:27 PM

{sigh} I won't accuse Joss of pandering to any specific target demographic but one reason I liked FF:TS is that there were enough layers to the story that almost any viewer could find something of interest. While the guys were drooling over Inara, Kaylee and River, some of us were actually into the story. And not even watching Nathan naked more than a few {*cough*dozen*cough*} times.

The Matrix was boring and convoluted. If I want convoluted I'd watch Being John Malkovich again. Kill Bill, well, most adult women don't think QT is god. Crouching Tiger was cool but not memorable a few years later. (FX don't impress me, obviously.) Some of us actually like tv better than movies, just for that reason...

terry (who probably offended most of guys she knows with this post)

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Originally posted by tlacook:
Not like this, we haven't...

hee hee

TLACOOK

Wednesday, December 22, 2004 6:16 PM

Terry,

There is no pandering. I am a 36 year old straight woman who is now head over heels in love with Summer Glau.

I even went to a red carpet event and screamed like an idiot last week when she appeared.

If, Joss is pandering, it is to thirtysomething women.

TERRYO

Wednesday, December 22, 2004 9:10 PM

LOL. I can live with that. As long as the pandering is in the right direction. {g}

So, is she really that good? I don't have anything against the actress but more River onscreen most likely means less Mal. (Not a good thing, imnsho.) Can you part with a River spoiler to illustrate? And do we find out why her parents were so uninterested in her fate while Simon was frantic?

What I really need (other than a bootleg of the screener and a copy of the script) is a nice long series of Firefly novels. Which shouldn't be that difficult, considering how many good writers there were on staff.

Or even a book like the Highlander people did, A Night at Joe's, I think is the name. All of the staff (that wanted to, presumably, including the actors) did small pieces. (I keep trying to put it on half.com but cant bear to part with it.)

Or Firefly back on tv where it is supposed to be.

terry

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Originally posted by tlacook:
Terry,

There is no pandering. I am a 36 year old straight woman who is now head over heels in love with Summer Glau.

I even went to a red carpet event and screamed like an idiot last week when she appeared.

If, Joss is pandering, it is to thirtysomething women.

TLACOOK

Wednesday, December 22, 2004 10:02 PM

She really is that good and Mal's screen time is not diminished one bit. The stars of the movie are pretty much Nathan and Summer.

We get to kinda understand where River is coming from and get to cheer for her instead of thinking, "My, that girl is kinda crazy".

No backstory on the parents. Sorry. But there is River/Simon backstory.

Books will be coming but, unfortunately not until after the movie. They will help with the wait for the sequel.

BAMBOOANIME

Thursday, December 23, 2004 3:01 AM

Figured as much. Good thing I never had strong attachments to Book.

MSCKAREN

Sunday, January 30, 2005 10:02 PM

Thanks for this. I love the spoilers!! I had read in another review about the deaths and Mal's "dark turn".

I wanted to read the whole thread before posting so I lost track of the person who said it wasn't a scene of him shooting a woman and child. This is what I read in a review of one of the screenings. If this is not the "dark turn" from your screening, could you please specify what you thought illustrated Mal's darkness in the screening you saw?

Even if it's not in the final version, it's interesting to see how JW's mind works. Well, for me, it's interesting. I'm not expecting happy endings - I've been a JW fan for way to long to even consider it a possibility. And at this point, I must admit, happy endings would just make the verse a boring place!

Is it possible that after seeing the final version of the movie, I might even say, "Wow, sure am glad they cancelled the show so I could get this movie!"

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"Appears they've canceled the show and we're still here. What does that make us?"
"Big damn junkies, Sir!"
"Ain't we just."

FIREFLUNKY

Saturday, May 7, 2005 7:41 AM

New to this board. Checking to see if I can do the black text thing before I post.

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Is this text black?

FIREFLUNKY

Saturday, May 7, 2005 8:11 AM

I just went to the Austin screening last night. Both Ron Glass & Nathan Fillion were there. Of course, Ron Glass got a few questions about his role in the movie. He shared this little tidbit.

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Ron Glass said Joss called him up and said. "I've got some good news and some bad news. The good news is: we're making a Firefly movie, and you're in it. The bad news is: you die." But Ron went on to mention that Joss told him that "anything can happen in space. You've got holograms, genetic engineering, prequels, sequels, etc." Ron ended his comment by saying "So I don't think we've seen the last of Book!"

Also, as far as Mal's darker side

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I never saw a scene where he shoots a mother and child. In the version I saw, he shoots a bank security guard who refused to hide in the vault with the other people in the bank. The Reavers show up while they're robbing it, Mal won't let him into their vehicle, but shoots him in the head when the Reavers start to eat him. (Maybe it used to be a mother & child but they changed it to a security guard after the first screenings.)

About the cast deaths

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Book's death I sort of saw coming. But Wash. I had no idea. It just comes so suddenly and out of nowhere. Of course, I hated to see Wash die (I'm still slightly depressed) but I can see why Joss did it. It avoids the whole Star Trek, everybody's safe except for this one random guy in a red shirt who you've never met and don't care about so we're going to kill him to give you a sense of danger, except that it really doesn't because we still know nothing will happen to any main characters that we care about. I have to admit, after Wash died, I thought anything could happen. At any given moment I thought Zoe was going to die, then Kaylee, then Simon, then River, and it even looked like Mal might die at the end. I don't think this tension would have been created without the sacrifice of Wash. Think of the first time you saw Psycho, and Janet Leigh gets stabbed in the shower. You keep thinking "There's no way she's really dead. She's the main character. She can't die." And eventually you have to accept the fact that she really is dead. Were people mad at Hitchcock for this? Of course. Does it make it a better movie? Absolutely.

Other random stuff

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Nothing more on Book's backstory. Tons on River's backstory (that's basically what the movie plot centers around) and we see how Simon rescued her. Kaylee and Simon finally do it! Mal and Inarra smile at each other and sort of admit feelings for each other (that's about all Mal can give at this point). And we find out the origin of the Reavers.

That's about it for you spoiler junkies. Enjoy. All in all, I thought it was a great film. It did a wonderful job summing up the characters, political situation, backstories, and relationships in about the first 5 minutes (no kidding). This is done skillfully and never seems like clumsy exposition, so I think people who have never seen the show could really enjoy the movie. Here's hoping!

KESTREL

Wednesday, August 24, 2005 10:13 PM

My thoughts exactly... if Joss has done what it sounds like he's done (from about 6 different spoiler reviews I've read), then for me, Firefly began and ended with the first season and Serenity (the movie, not the pilot) will not exist.

Joss... if it's true, then you took my sky from me.

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