new deadly human-to-human-transmissible coronavirus emerges out of China

In the realm of "never let a good crisis go to waste"

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Dirty banknotes may be spreading the coronavirus, World Health Organization suggests

**People have been warned to wash their hands after using banknotes - and if possible to use contactless payments instead**

Banknotes may be spreading the new coronavirus so people should try to use contactless payments instead, the World Health Organization has said.

Customers should wash their hands after touching banknotes because infectious Covid-19 may cling to the surface for a number of days, the UN agency said on Monday night. To prevent the spread of the disease, people should use contactless technology where possible, a spokesperson added.

The Bank of England has acknowledged that banknotes "can carry bacteria or viruses" and urged people to wash their hands regularly. It comes after both China and Korea last month began disinfecting and isolating used banknotes as part of their efforts to stop the spread of the virus. Officials used ultraviolet light or high temperatures to sterilise the bills, only putting them back into circulation after they had been sealed and stored for up to 14 days.

A source at the Bank of England insisted there were no plans to do the same in the UK. However the World Health Organization said the British public should exercise care when handling potentially infectious banknotes. Asked whether banknotes could be spreading coronavirus, a WHO spokesman replied: "Yes it’s possible and it’s a good question. We know that money changes hands frequently and can pick up all sorts of bacteria and viruses and things like that.

"We would advise people to wash their hands after handling banknotes, and avoid touching their face. "When possible it’s a good idea to use contactless payments."

Exactly how long the new coronavirus can survive outside the human body has not yet been proven. An analysis of 22 earlier studies of similar coronaviruses, including Severe acute respiratory syndrome (Sars) and Middle East respiratory syndrome (Mers) published online this month in the Journal of Hospital Infection, concluded that human coronaviruses can remain infectious on inanimate surfaces for up to nine days at room temperature.

However, they can quickly be rendered inactive by the use of common disinfectants, and may also dissipate at higher temperatures, the authors wrote. It is not yet clear, however, whether the new coronavirus behaves in a similar way.

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/02/exclusive-dirty-banknotes-
may-spreading-coronavirus-world-health/

Well! The WHO tells us not to use banknotes, but STILL refuses to call this a "pandemic"? Considering that some disease-fighting funds can't be released UNTIL the WHO declares a pandemic, which do you suppose might be more effective in fighting the spread of coronavirus ... having the WHO tell us to "launder money", or actually declaring a pandemic?

I see the hand of banks behind both: They have been trying to discourage cash for at least five years (because they have complete tracking and control over digital transfers, unlike cash money which evades government taxes, law enforcement, AND the banks!) AND there are those pandemic bonds! Shame on Tedros.

EVERY CRISIS has a silver lining ... for someone! Especially if they can spin the crisis in their favor.

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Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
In the realm of "never let a good crisis go to waste"

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Dirty banknotes may be spreading the coronavirus, World Health Organization suggests

**People have been warned to wash their hands after using banknotes - and if possible to use contactless payments instead**

Banknotes may be spreading the new coronavirus so people should try to use contactless payments instead, the World Health Organization has said.

Customers should wash their hands after touching banknotes because infectious Covid-19 may cling to the surface for a number of days, the UN agency said on Monday night. To prevent the spread of the disease, people should use contactless technology where possible, a spokesperson added.

The Bank of England has acknowledged that banknotes "can carry bacteria or viruses" and urged people to wash their hands regularly. It comes after both China and Korea last month began disinfecting and isolating used banknotes as part of their efforts to stop the spread of the virus. Officials used ultraviolet light or high temperatures to sterilise the bills, only putting them back into circulation after they had been sealed and stored for up to 14 days.

A source at the Bank of England insisted there were no plans to do the same in the UK. However the World Health Organization said the British public should exercise care when handling potentially infectious banknotes. Asked whether banknotes could be spreading coronavirus, a WHO spokesman replied: "Yes it’s possible and it’s a good question. We know that money changes hands frequently and can pick up all sorts of bacteria and viruses and things like that.

"We would advise people to wash their hands after handling banknotes, and avoid touching their face. "When possible it’s a good idea to use contactless payments."

Exactly how long the new coronavirus can survive outside the human body has not yet been proven. An analysis of 22 earlier studies of similar coronaviruses, including Severe acute respiratory syndrome (Sars) and Middle East respiratory syndrome (Mers) published online this month in the Journal of Hospital Infection, concluded that human coronaviruses can remain infectious on inanimate surfaces for up to nine days at room temperature.

However, they can quickly be rendered inactive by the use of common disinfectants, and may also dissipate at higher temperatures, the authors wrote. It is not yet clear, however, whether the new coronavirus behaves in a similar way.

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/02/exclusive-dirty-banknotes-
may-spreading-coronavirus-world-health/

Well! The WHO tells us not to use banknotes, but STILL refuses to call this a "pandemic"? Considering that some disease-fighting funds can't be released UNTIL the WHO declares a pandemic, which do you suppose might be more effective in fighting the spread of coronavirus ... having the WHO tell us to "launder money", or actually declaring a pandemic?

I see the hand of banks behind both: They have been trying to discourage cash for at least five years (because they have complete tracking and control over digital transfers, unlike cash money which evades government taxes, law enforcement, AND the banks!) AND there are those pandemic bonds! Shame on Tedros.

EVERY CRISIS has a silver lining ... for someone! Especially if they can spin the crisis in their favor.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!

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So I will now be doing what I can to remove myself from digital currency and only use cash in the future.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/04/health/us-coronavirus-update-wednes
day/index.html
Any American with a doctor's order can now be tested

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But will your insurance cover it, or will you foot the bill?

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The number of US cases has continued to rise since health officials allowed more labs to conduct tests for the virus.

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That's a complete surprise! (not)

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I've been waiting for this shoe to drop ...

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Los Angeles County officials on Wednesday declared a state of emergency as they confirmed six new cases of novel coronavirus in the county.
The county Board of Supervisors and Department of Public Health made the announcement alongside L.A. Mayor Eric Garcetti and public health officials from Long Beach and Pasadena, which both have their own public health department.

County Supervisors and the Los Angeles City Council are both expected to hear reports during their Wednesday meetings about the status of the illness locally.

The county's second case

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But what about cases three thru six?

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of COVID-19 was confirmed on Tuesday by Kaiser Permanente who is overseeing the care of the patient, currently in self-isolation and being treated as an outpatient, a spokesperson said. Additional details regarding the case were not available.

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LA County might be at the case/case/case/cluster/cluster/BOOM! part of the exponential part of the curve.

LA County is very large. Does it mean anything that the Mayor of LA was flanked by Public Health officials of Pasadena and Long Beach? (We worked with LB Public Health lab on a toxic risk, I was VERY impressed with the dedication of the doctor who testified and helped us close down a facility.)

I guess I don't feel like a total idiot making such a fashion-forward statement wearing a mask! Also, withdrawing dear daughter from her gym-based exercise program. We need to beef up our hand/item sanitizing protocol at home because things are crossing the "clean/dirty" line that need to addressed.

But even with all of these precautions, I believe that we will all get sick, sooner or later.



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We need to beef up our hand/item sanitizing protocol at home because things are crossing the "clean/dirty" line that need to addressed.

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I've been looking at how to care for a sick person with coronavirus as instructive for how to avoid it in a contaminated or potentially contaminated environment. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/home/cleaning-disi
nfection.html

The relevant parts are:
"Household members should clean hands often, including immediately after removing gloves and after contact with an ill person, by washing hands with soap and water for 20 seconds. If soap and water are not available and hands are not visibly dirty, an alcohol-based hand sanitizer that contains at least 60% alcohol may be used. However, if hands are visibly dirty, always wash hands with soap and water." You're not going to wear gloves while going grocery shopping! But sanitizing your hands when you get home seems appropriate.
"Household members should follow normal preventive actions while at work and home including recommended hand hygiene and avoiding touching eyes, nose, or mouth with unwashed hands." So wearing a mask when out and about, to remind you to not touch your face, seems useful.

There are things you bring in directly from the outside, groceries and money come to mind. I don't think groceries, like cans, bags, or boxes have a high likelihood of being contaminated. Money might be just because it's been through many, many hands; but if you're not handling it at home, it shouldn't be a problem. If you DO handle it at home, simply wash or sanitize your hands afterwards.

I suggest sanitizing your phone (wipes) and wallet (if its non-porous) and its closures (wipes or hand san), and perhaps a leather purse-strap (wipes or hand san) when you get home, simply because you touch those things many times outside of the house.

So masks outside and hand sanitizer at the home entry are good.

If SARS-COV-2 is similar to other coronaviruses, it can last as long as 8 days ON NON-POROUS SURFACES under ordinary conditions. But porous surfaces are another matter entirely! I wouldn't worry about any of your stuff that doesn't directly come from outside the outside, with the exception of things you touch often - phone, wallet, purse-strap; and wash or sanitize your hands after you handle money in the house.

IN SUM: the things you have to worry about are: 1) touching your face with contaminated hands, which makes wearing a mask outside the house an excellent reminder; 2) hands that get contaminated outside the house, which makes hand sanitizer at the entry an excellent!!! preventative; 3) things that come directly into the house from the outside; which means washing your hands after you handle money in the house a good preventative. Cleaning cell phones, wallets and purse straps are additional precautions - because you touch those things OFTEN outside of the house then inside of the house.

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I've heard new numbers for the virus fatality rate are extremely low.

0% fatality rate for those under 10.
.2% fatality rate for those under 40.
.4% fatality rate for those under 50.

It gets a little higher from there, but not even on the level of the common flu.

Has anybody else heard this? I didn't read it. Heard it from a family member.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Nobody really knows! To know, they'd have to know how many people have the virus - which they don't, because the testing's been extremely limited. And then they'd have to accurately diagnose how many people died from it postmortem.

I don't think anyone has those numbers.

But - bummer - there's indication that the reason why so many who died in China have been males, while females have been spared, is because so many males smoke, while females don't.

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I think I have the answer for our cloth bag-handles: 70 pct IPA spray. (They say that water helps the alcohol penetrate the virus surface; which makes sense bc the proteins have to "unpack" a little before they're active, and they "unpack" with water.) I know that some say that porous surfaces are not a concern, but Chris Martensen's video has a chart of various surfaces showing long-lasting recoverability from paper. Roughly 5 days cooling-off for anything should reduce the contamination.

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