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new deadly human-to-human-transmissible coronavirus emerges out of China

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Monday, March 2, 2020 2:21 AM

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/01/europe/italy-coronavirus-cases-trav
el-advisory/index.html


Italy reports a 50% increase in confirmed coronavirus cases

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Monday, March 2, 2020 2:42 AM

Updatiing from 24 Feb.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Another organization of cases in America, Canada.



America
#1 20 Jan. Seattle. Flew in from China. Released 4 Feb.
#2 24 Jan. Chicago. Woman flew in from Wuhan. Later infected husband. (web)
#3 26 Jan. 1st in CA, Orange Co (likely Santa Ana) (web)
#4 26 Jan. 2nd case in CA. LA County. (web)
#5 26 Jan. Maricopa Co, AZ. (web)
#6 30 Jan. Chicago. Husband of #2, person-to-person. (web)
#7 31 Jan. Santa Clara Co, CA. Man flew in from China. (web)
#8 1 Feb. Boston MA. Flew nto Logan from China. (web)
#9 2 Feb. CA, Bay Area. Woman from China. (web)
#10 3 Feb. NYC.
#11 3 Feb. Santa Clara Co, CA. Person-to-person, from #7.
#12 5 Feb. Madison, WI. Flew in from China.
#13 11 Feb. Evacuee from China, now in San Diego. ( MCAS Miramar) (web)
#14 12 Feb. Evacuee from Wuhan, now at MCAS Miramar (San Diego), not from #13 (web)
#15 13 Feb. Evacuee from China, now at TX AFB. 1st case in TX.
__ Total 3 cases of evacuees, 12 of non-evacuees.
#16
#17
#18
#19
#20


#35
__As of 21 Feb, 35 cases are 13 from non-evacuees, 21 evacuees.
#36 22 Feb. (21 repatriated, 14 non-evacuees)


#60
__60 cases include 45 evacuees from China, Diamond Princess, and 15 from non-evacuees.
#61
#62 Solano Co, CA. 1st discovered community case, of unknown origin or connection/contact.
#63 28 Feb. Santa Clara Co, CA. 2nd community case. Not connected, but 60 miles from #62.



__As of 29 Feb, 22 cases in US.
__As of 1 Mar, 25 cases in US (non-evacuees). New in WA, OR, RI.

#70 1 Mar.

The general trend is that the "new" cases discovered from Diamond Princess will trickle down.
Before "community" cases, the non-evacuee cases were effectively stagnant, not growing.
But new "community" cases are another matter.


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Monday, March 2, 2020 2:55 AM

From 28 FEb.

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Yanno Jack - it's not as if I didn't do any reading either, or understand the basic biological processes, or the testing technology, electronics, chemistry, or ... anything.

But I know you'll dismiss that.

I bit of a rant there.
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My lived experience doesn't count.
I know people who have had life experience teaching them that they really do speak to The Lord, and God really does listen to them, and they know their religion is the only one true religion. So you claiming the same thing about your AIDS Religion is not really a logically convincing discourse.
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All the science, technology, and biology my understanding is based on is brainwashing.
This seems a strawman from you.
I do understand that you may have not been serious in this strawman, due to the tone of derision, flippancy, sarcasm.
For those of us not attending the Church of your AIDS religion, it is disappointing that you have abandoned your science, technology, and biology to suspend disbelief in order to devoutly follow your AIDS Religion. Your illogic refutes your implied assertion that you are not brainwashed.
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All the studies I read

carefully selected by you to support your belief system and not contradict your devout following of your AIDS Religion.
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from all the researchers in all the countries all around the world over all the decades are just some global hoax.
Without the sarcasm, it would seem you are finally opening your eyes, and your mind.
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You have no problems dismissing all of that, because that lets you keep your religion.

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Monday, March 2, 2020 3:46 AM

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1KIKI:
Yanno Jack - it's not as if I didn't do any reading either, or understand the basic biological processes, or the testing technology, electronics, chemistry, or ... anything.

But I know you'll dismiss that. My lived experience doesn't count

JSF: I bit of a rant there.

KIKI: All the science, technology, and biology my understanding is based on is brainwashing.

JSF: This seems a strawman from you.
For those of us not attending the Church of your AIDS religion, it is dissapointing that you have abandoned your science, technology, and biology to suspect disbelief in order to devoutly folow

All the studies I read from all the researchers in all the countries all around the world over all the decades are just some global hoax.

Where is your EVIDENCE? Bring your cites and links here, so we can discuss them, because everything I have read says otherwise.

In order to meet the criteria that the HIV virus causes disease, it meets the following criteria:

The presence of the virus is correlated with the disease. While not everyone who has the virus has the symptoms, everone who has the symptoms has the virus.

Those who previously did not have the virus (demonstrated) later acquire both symptoms and virus after exposure.

Focusing treatment on the virus (with anti-retrovirals and other anti-virals) reduces both symptoms and assayed viral load.

It seems to me that the person with th religion is you, so bring your arguments forth and we can discuss them. But, if you resort to For all we know, this is all a dream I'll consider that you have forfeited your argument, since you can say that about ANYTHING.


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Now, I'm well aware that there are many "diseases" that aren't caused by germs: Heart disease. Stroke. Type II diabetes. Nutritional deficiencies like pellagra disease that were first thought (mistakenly) to be like leprosy (which IS caused by a "germ"). Rhuematoid arthritis and other autoimmune "dieases". Genetic and mitochondrial diseases.

Still, you can't dismiss the "germ theory of disease" in relationship to AIDS. Well, maybe YOU can, but you shouldn't.



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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!

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Monday, March 2, 2020 3:47 AM


You two I'm sure 'believe' that such a thing as cholera exists - even thought you've never known anyone who had it, or known anyone who's known anyone. The max number of cholera cases in the US is 23 per year, which makes your chances of ever personally running into it less than 1 in 10million in any year, or, over 30 years, less than 3 in a million.

There are 1.1 million HIV positive people in the US, or roughly 1 in every 350 people. Now, you claim you don't 'know' anyone who's HIV positive ... but then, are you the kind of person anyone would tell about their HIV status? You may know one or more people who are HIV positive, but they haven't told you because ... you.

But you know me. And I knew a gay couple where both were HIV positive, who later died of AIDS (this was in the days before antiretroviral therapy). And I know one person now who's HIV positive, on long-term antiretroviral therapy without AIDS. So you know at least one person who knows someone ... which I'm sure you'll ignore.

And that's what makes it your religion. You 'believe' in things like cholera you have even less evidence for, and choose to NOT 'believe' things for which there's ample evidence like HIV as the cause of AIDS.

Jack's been converted to his religion because he's in the midst of a decades-long tantrum about how 'they terrorized' him, and JSF because he swallowed some hokum 40 years ago and hasn't learned anything new since (and he probably has some homophobic beliefs that make him want to think the 'gay-lifestyle' got justly punished).


https://www.hiv.gov/hiv-basics/overview/data-and-trends/statistics
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3310582/


Meanwhile. here are a few of hundreds of papers indicating HIV as the cause of AIDS, which btw, nobody has been able to scientifically challenge in the least since the 1990's.

https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/325c/71bc9cd24b57a04a77302e49500818ad
f285.pdf

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/260/5112/1273.abstract
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1424581/pdf/pubhealthrep0
0105-0073.pdf

https://muse.jhu.edu/article/401243/summary



But when it comes to religions like global warming, Iraq's WMDs, or HIV/ AIDS, facts are irrelevant. So unless you post relevant UP TO DATE FACTS to back your religion up, I'll not discuss this further and I'll simply mock your ignorance.

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Monday, March 2, 2020 3:50 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
bullshit

fify

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Monday, March 2, 2020 4:01 AM

https://www.foxnews.com/media/dr-anthony-fauci-coronavirus-spread-us

Dr. Anthony Fauci, a member of the White House coronavirus task force, said Sunday that “community spread” cases of the virus, which cannot be directly traced to anyone, are becoming more prevalent in the United States.

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Monday, March 2, 2020 4:28 AM

lol Religion.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, March 2, 2020 4:40 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
You two...



And you two... you and Siggy... have been posting here long enough (and are smart enough) to know all too well what a couple of nimrods those 2 are. Screw politics and sides - they have more issues than Conde Nast.

Coronavirus tidbit: the virus may have been here for some time. Health care professionals have not necessarily been looking for it though. When someone presents with pneumonia or flu symptoms they are not necessarily suspected or tested for a "new" flu, so the diagnosis may have been missed. It could explain why some people seem to have no trace back to a known carrier or hot place and why it seems to be popping up in so many countries so "quickly." It may have already been there but not until China are we focused on that strain specifically and looking for it.

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Monday, March 2, 2020 4:46 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol Religion.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Cites and links?

Otherwise: "LOL religion", to you.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!

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