new deadly human-to-human-transmissible coronavirus emerges out of China
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Yup. 
But the most ridiculous thing about this winter is that it's the first in three that I haven't worked and it would have been the nicest for driving. The last two winters were terrible for driving to work and now that I've only filled my gas tank 3 times in the last 6 months there's no snow at all.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Yanno ... more cases around the globe, more human-to-human transmission not in the China, more deaths ... yadda yadda yadda ...
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I watched most of a 26-minute video of a "citizen journalist" who made his way into Wuhan. It was a nonstop bitchfest, and like SECONDRATE, some of his gripes contradicted some of his other gripes.
So, for example, he says that many hospitals in Wuhan are not full. This, he says, is the result of public transportation being shut down, with only four taxis per district (10,000 people) being available. People don't have the transportation to get to the hospital.
Halfway thru the video, he describes a scene where people are lined up in corridors getting oxygen, that people are on IV drips in their cars in the hospital parking lot or in the hospital courtyard outdoors. How does that square with people not having transportation to hospital, and hospitals being relatively empty?
He mentions that the government is building hospital(s?) as fast as it can, with negative pressure zones and air exhaust and sewage disinfection. Of course, he uses that as a bitchfest too, wondering how many workers will be killed on the job. But IF TRUE, then China sees this flu as a true emergency.
One thing he did mention many times is that there are only a limited number of test kits... in his estimation, each hospital is getting only 100 kits per day, and that the hospitals are EXTREMELY reluctant to test people if they don't believe that the patient is seriously sick with flu.
IF TRUE, that does a couple of things ... it reduces the total number of diagnosed patients. At the same time, it drastically increases the measured death rate, since asymptomatic/ mildly symptomatic people would never be tested positive. The only way to get a true death rate is near-universal testing of at least one sub-population.
I'll see if I can find that video link, but the two things I would really like to follow up on would be the availability of test kits and whether or not the Chinese government is really building hospitals in response to this outbreak.
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Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!
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https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/they-all-knew-chinese-furious-v
irus-fighting-officials-who-lied-about-human
This article is based on a NEJM paper as a starting point, that said that person-to-person transmission was occurring as early as mid-December 2019, in Wuhan.
I'm going to go out on a limb with an opinion that will never, ever, be able to be tested out with facts. This has the makings of an OOPS at the Chinese BSL4 lab near Wuhan. It looks like the Chinese had a viral escape, and tried to cover up the problem by being really quiet, and hoping it might go away. That would be like how the US treated the air-transmissible Ebola at Reston Virginia, except the US probably got lucky because, afaik, there was no human-to-human Ebola spread.
Reading all the articles I have read, I would 1) not trust ANY data out of China officialdom; and 2) only put qualified trust in data from other countries' officialdom.
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Quote:AFAIK they really are building an instant hospital. "I've seen pictures." I am snickering just a bit with that, but it's all I have to go on. I don't know how we can get reliable information out of China right now.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
...but the two things I would really like to follow up on would be the availability of test kits and whether or not the Chinese government is really building hospitals in response to this outbreak.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!
It sure would be nice to have an intrepid and independent press right now, instead of stenographers who meekly mouth officialdom's pronouncements!
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China has in the past built "instant" structures ... hospitals, apartment complexes, skyscrapers, bridges etc. They're fully capable of that. If they're really doing it, then they either perceive a real epidemic problem, or a real political one (in which the local government ... which everyone knows are more corrupt than the national one ... sat on a secret and hoped it would go away, leaving the national government to contain the political fallout.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!
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Hmmm ... well, idt China would build an instant hospital to politically rescue a local government. And if the virus was no real threat, there would be no need to build an instant hospital to rescue the national government. This would all fizzle out on its own. I think it means this is an actual, serious threat.
What occurred to me btw is to compare the coronavirus stocks at the Canadian BSL4 facility with 2019-nCoV. It would be interesting, at least.
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At least an "instant" hospital wouldn't have staph. At least not instantly. 
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooohh!
Nice!
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This thread wa started on the evening of 20 Jan 2020.
I recall the news had already been out and updated a few times by that time.
From the stories in the OP, it seems the Sunday before was also referenced.
What is the date that they are considering Day One for their charts and graphs, and how do they define Day One? The first Fatality? The first known case in Human?
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