new deadly human-to-human-transmissible coronavirus emerges out of China
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I'm uncertain of the smartness of getting citizens out of China and back home....? Isn't that how it would spread? How do we know if they are carriers or not? I wouldn't be as concerned if we had a vaccine - and it does not seem to be as fatal (thank all the godz), but still... are they screened first by US Drs before boarding and how effective is the screening? Curiouser and curiouser.
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
I'm uncertain of the smartness of getting citizens out of China and back home....? Isn't that how it would spread? How do we know if they are carriers or not? I wouldn't be as concerned if we had a vaccine - and it does not seem to be as fatal (thank all the godz), but still... are they screened first by US Drs before boarding and how effective is the screening? Curiouser and curiouser.
Pandemic series no#1 on Netflix
I still want to note that I'm not at all worried about this thing and I think that people are taking this way to seriously.
That being said though, I agree with the Captain here. I was talking to my grandma on the phone yesterday and she had the news on mute and told me about them getting Americans out of China and I said "why the fuck are they doing that?"
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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WHO declares coronavirus a global health emergency
Wuhan coronavirus cases top 8,000 as countries step up evacuation efforts
https://edition.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-01-30-20-i
ntl-hnk/index.html
First US person-to-person transmission confirmed
First case of person-to-person transmission of Wuhan virus in the US confirmed
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/30/health/coronavirus-illinois-person-
to-person-cdc/index.html
Ok - I'm not saying it's time to jam the exit doors just yet. But I've been right so far, calling it 'explosively' human-to-human-transmissible before it was thought to be, saying that this was far bigger than being reported, that there was smouldering transmission going on, and saying that the WHO was doing too little, too late because the time to stop a pandemic is before it starts.
Epidemics/ pandemics are like wildland fires. They both start out small. In epidemics/ pandemics, it starts with only one person, called the index case.
In China, obviously it's out of control. When it comes to the rest of the world, the good thing about the WHO's declaration is that it releases funds and sets programs and people in motion. There may still be time to stamp this out.
Here's an interesting graphic:
Oh, this is some gossip I've been reading. There's supposedly a BSL4 facility (the level of facility that can handle deadly outbreaks for which there is no medicine or vaccine, like Ebola) within 20 miles of Wuhan, and one of the leading Chinese researchers temporarily working at a Canadian BSL4 facility (uncertain if it was the husband, or wife, or both) stole coronavirus (among other pathogens) from there on jawn's way back to China and its newly constructed lab.
Meanwhile, another deadly virus has infected 15 million in the US
A deadly virus is spreading from state to state and has infected 15 million Americans so far. It's influenza
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/30/health/flu-deadly-virus-15-million-
infected-trnd/index.html
Even the low-end estimate of deaths each year is startling, Savoy said: The Centers for Disease Control predicts at least 12,000 people will die from the flu in the US every year. In the 2017-2018 flu season, as many as 61,000 people died, and 45 million were sickened.
In the 2019-2020 season so far, 15 million people in the US have gotten the flu and 8,200 people have died from it, including at least 54 children. Flu activity has been elevated for 11 weeks straight, the CDC reported, and will likely continue for the next several weeks.
As I posted earlier, the LACounty health department declared a flu medical emergency a couple of weeks ago because of excess deaths from the flu in the under-40 population.
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Maybe I'll wait another month or two before I go rushing off to get a shitty part time job where nobody can afford to call in sick with unpaid time off. 
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Are you not thinking today?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:I still want to note that I'm not at all worried about this thing and I think that people are taking this way to seriously.
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
I'm uncertain of the smartness of getting citizens out of China and back home....? Isn't that how it would spread? How do we know if they are carriers or not? I wouldn't be as concerned if we had a vaccine - and it does not seem to be as fatal (thank all the godz), but still... are they screened first by US Drs before boarding and how effective is the screening? Curiouser and curiouser.
Pandemic series no#1 on Netflix
That being said though, I agree with the Captain here. I was talking to my grandma on the phone yesterday and she had the news on mute and told me about them getting Americans out of China and I said "why the fuck are they doing that?"
Do Right, Be Right. :)
If one is infected on the plane, they are all 200 risking getting it during the flight. Enclosed/confined space.
Once they get here, they are screened several times, and also quarantined for days or weeks if needed - and all would be willing to do so versus the alternative of staying in China.
These are all American citizens, mostly dependants of U.S. Diplomats - so we are lookng out for those who are doing our work for us.
If they are proven to be uninfected now, why would you declare they must be left where they will likely contract the fatal infection?
If one or more are infected at this point, it's not going to get from California to Indiana while they are in quarantine, so what is the problem?
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lol
Ok. We'll see if none of them are infected. 
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Quote:Oh, I'm just quoting you to be clear who I'm responding to.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Maybe I'll wait another month or two before I go rushing off to get a shitty part time job where nobody can afford to call in sick with unpaid time off.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
I dunno - how much do you trust the government to keep us informed if things get iffy? Because in a month or two we should know how things are going ... but that's assuming of course we're being told the truth.
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Quote:I don't know about anywhere else or anyone else, but the plane scheduled for Ontario California was diverted to March AFB (Air Force base) where people will be housed and monitored for ... I think it's 2 weeks. One person is reported to have been caught after trying to sneak off the base.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
If one is infected on the plane, they are all 200 risking getting it during the flight. Enclosed/confined space.
Once they get here, they are screened several times, and also quarantined for days or weeks if needed - and all would be willing to do so versus the alternative of staying in China.
These are all American citizens, mostly dependants of U.S. Diplomats - so we are lookng out for those who are doing our work for us.
If they are proven to be uninfected now, why would you declare they must be left where they will likely contract the fatal infection?
If one or more are infected at this point, it's not going to get from California to Indiana while they are in quarantine, so what is the problem?
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Quote:Oh, I'm just quoting you to be clear who I'm responding to.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Maybe I'll wait another month or two before I go rushing off to get a shitty part time job where nobody can afford to call in sick with unpaid time off.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Nobody in particular I guess.
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I dunno - how much do you trust the government to keep us informed if things get iffy?
Zero.
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Because in a month or two we should know how things are going ... but that's assuming of course we're being told the truth.
It's going to be a lot harder to hide it if it does spread here. They might be able to pull that shit in China, but if they wanted to silence people here they'd have to lock down Social Media, and there's no way they're getting away with that without sending out a big 'ole red flag.
Like I said before... I'm not at all worried about this and I think it's being blown way out of proportion like everything else always does.
In the mean time, no sense in rushing to get a job working at a place where you're most likely to contract something since people will go to work sick. I'm not hurting for money, and my tax return is about 7 weeks of unemployment more than I had planned on it being, so maybe I'll just sit this one out and keep working on my house for now. I've got enough materials now to keep me busy until April.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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