Firefly in the Timeslot of death

POSTED BY: Swatter
UPDATED: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 16:45
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SWATTER

Friday, May 31, 2002 10:53 PM

I was hoping Firefly would have a chance but it seems to have everything going against it with another re-shoot of the pilot. I like sci-fi shows like Firefly but why did Fox give it the timeslot of death? I used to watch sliders and tons of good sci-fi shows on friday nights on Fox only to have them all cancelled. Is the second pilot so bad that they won't move it back to Sunday night?

I love Gina Torres and she's gonna be the best actresses on the show...I just wished they re-cast the rest of the parts. They seem..lacking.

These are just my opinons and not a slight against Firefly. I just wish they gave the show a real shot is all.

I hope Joss doesn't burnout doing all these shows. I'll be angry if Buffy and Angel start to stink cause he spent too much time on firefly.

JONWES

Friday, May 31, 2002 11:15 PM

Hmmmmm....

Why do you say the actors are lacking? Have you seen the first pilot yet? And where did you hear that the second pilot was bad? Fox loved the script for the second pilot, and from what I've heard the first pilot wasn't BAD, just not the best episode to start the series with. The whole second pilot thing isn't a big deal. Pilots are either re-tooled or another episode is used as the first episode all the time for various reasons. You just don't hear about them most of the time unless the creator of the show is well known.

It all comes down to what we see on the screen. It COULD be bad, but we'll see. I doubt Buffy or Angel will suffer that much, if at all. Not to undermin Joss in any way, but there are plenty of talented writers on both those shows so even if he removed himself from them completely in a creative sense I don't think they'd fall apart. And that scenario seems very unlikely.

MOJOECA

Friday, May 31, 2002 11:51 PM

Tim Minear posted on the site (check headlines) explaining the whole pilot thing. Said basically the "new pilot" is just the next episode where everyone is already on board -- it will now serve as the first ep. The original pilot will air at a later date, marketed as an origin story, 2hr event. No official word that FOX thought the pilot sucked, just that it wasn't ideal "first exposure." Tim also dispelled rumors of retooling.

On the Sunday at 9 timslot: Both "alias" and "angel" will air at that time in the fall. A 3-way competition splits the genre audience and it would be death knell for all 3 shows. Fridays at 9 for "firefly" will just have to do. X-files debuted on fridays, remember? Granted that's one among many cancellations... We'll just have to wait and see.

Edited to add: WB BASTARDS!

--- Joe

JONWES

Saturday, June 1, 2002 12:21 AM

The Alias/Angel thing does suck. I'll be watching Alias, though. Haven't really gotten into Angel, though I watched the first 5 episodes.

SHOE

Saturday, June 1, 2002 5:01 AM

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Originally posted by Swatter:
I was hoping Firefly would have a chance but it seems to have everything going against it with another re-shoot of the pilot. I like sci-fi shows like Firefly but why did Fox give it the timeslot of death? I used to watch sliders and tons of good sci-fi shows on friday nights on Fox only to have them all cancelled. Is the second pilot so bad that they won't move it back to Sunday night?

I love Gina Torres and she's gonna be the best actresses on the show...I just wished they re-cast the rest of the parts. They seem..lacking.

These are just my opinons and not a slight against Firefly. I just wish they gave the show a real shot is all.

I hope Joss doesn't burnout doing all these shows. I'll be angry if Buffy and Angel start to stink cause he spent too much time on firefly.

FOX never gives shows a shot. There'll be few promotions (like Dark Angel) and they'll let it slip.

The people at FOX are lazy and just expect pop culture hits to happen.

HAKEN

Saturday, June 1, 2002 5:12 AM

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Originally posted by Shoe:
The people at FOX are lazy and just expect pop culture hits to happen.

You know what I find ironic, both Buffy and Angel are produced by FOX, and both are successful because they're not on FOX.

FOX is probably more successful at being a studio than they are at being a network.

SHOE

Saturday, June 1, 2002 5:18 AM

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Originally posted by Haken:
Quote:
Originally posted by Shoe:
The people at FOX are lazy and just expect pop culture hits to happen.

You know what I find ironic, both Buffy and Angel are produced by FOX, and both are successful because they're not on FOX.

FOX is probably more successful at being a studio than they are at being a network.

Most successful shows are produced in Vancouver (Lion's Gate Studios) so not exactly at the FOX lot...

SWATTER

Saturday, June 1, 2002 9:07 PM

I say the actors are lacking because I've seen their other body of work and judged it on that. No, I've read it and read the reviews by others who saw it. Even Fox said the first one stunk.

Never said the second one was bad, Just wondered. Why else would Fox leave it on such a bad timeslot. I want the show to have a chance is all.
Read the latest Dreamwatch article and if you look around other news sites you will find mostly the same comments about the first one being bad. I think it is a big deal. Fox scheduled Firefly for mid-season originally and then moved it tot he fall only after a rewrite of the pilot. Please don't sugarcoat it.

I hope you are right. I really like Angel and Buffy.

JONWES

Saturday, June 1, 2002 10:27 PM

Oh, what have the other actors been in? All I've ever seen is Adam Baldwin in the X-files. Hmmmmm...

BACCHUS68

Saturday, June 1, 2002 10:54 PM

You Know I do think that FRiday timeslot is really really hard timeslot to conquer. Oh and I think all things Joss rock but he does have a problem a bit with set-up. First Buffy and Then Angel both well.. started slow. It is widely thought that the second seasons of both shows are way better than the first season. The first season is usually a set-up season. On WB and UPN that is cool but Fox I think wanted to slam out of the gate with the show so the extra later episode I think is a good idea to start the show to show the character dynamics earlier in the show and the set-up episodes can be shown after we are hooked on the cool characterizations.

All in all I hope they give it the time it needs to grow. They Gave DA a long time so there is a good chance they can give Joss the time to do it well also. The cross promotion deals with Sci-Fi channel also makes it a good chance to succeed as well. It worked for 24. I know if they let it get to a second season people will be screaming at how good the show is then.

By the way great site. glad to have found it.

Bac.

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