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Wednesday, January 15, 2020 2:43 AM

Rockets target Taji military base north of Baghdad

BAGHDAD, Jan 14 (Reuters) - Iraqi camp Taji north of Baghdad was targeted by Katyusha rockets on Tuesday, with no casualties reported, an Iraqi military statement said.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/rockets-target-taji-military-base
-north-of-baghdad-statement/ar-BBYWR8s?ocid=spartandhp


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Wednesday, January 15, 2020 2:48 AM

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
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Originally posted by second:
I've been reading ordinary Newsweek, and it says Trump wants the option to drop a nuke to shock and awe Iran.



He wanted to use nukes on hurricanes, why not this?




Do you have a video that he said that? I've never seen a video where he says that.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, January 15, 2020 3:45 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
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Originally posted by second:
I've been reading ordinary Newsweek, and it says Trump wants the option to drop a nuke to shock and awe Iran.



He wanted to use nukes on hurricanes, why not this?




Do you have a video that he said that? I've never seen a video where he says that.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Trump has floated the idea of thwarting hurricanes (ayatollahs?) headed for the US by bombing them, including by dropping nuclear bombs on hurricanes (ayatollahs?) to disrupt their course, Axios reported, citing conversations with sources who heard Trump's comments and were briefed on a National Security Council memo that recorded the comments.



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, January 15, 2020 3:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
I've been reading ordinary Newsweek, and it says Trump wants the option to drop a nuke to shock and awe Iran.



He wanted to use nukes on hurricanes, why not this?




Do you have a video that he said that? I've never seen a video where he says that.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Trump has floated the idea of thwarting hurricanes (ayatollahs?) headed for the US by bombing them, including by dropping nuclear bombs on hurricanes (ayatollahs?) to disrupt their course, Axios reported, citing conversations with sources who heard Trump's comments and were briefed on a National Security Council memo that recorded the comments.



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



I know Axios reported on it. I'm asking you if you have video of Trump actually saying it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, January 15, 2020 4:36 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I know Axios reported on it. I'm asking you if you have video of Trump actually saying it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I don't have a video of Trump taking a dump, but I'm sure he has and will again. Same is true about him talking about nuking an ayatollah.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, January 15, 2020 4:44 AM

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I don't have a video of Trump taking a dump, but I'm sure he has and will again. Same is true about him talking about nuking an ayatollah.
You believed a lot of things without evidence. RUSSIA COLLUSION!! is one shining example.

So why should anybody believe your beliefs?


Belief is for wimps and mental midgets!

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THG
Wednesday, January 15, 2020 4:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I know Axios reported on it. I'm asking you if you have video of Trump actually saying it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I don't have a video of Trump taking a dump, but I'm sure he has and will again. Same is true about him talking about nuking an ayatollah.






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Wednesday, January 15, 2020 5:48 AM

The W76-2 warhead did NOT happen because ... TRUMP! It appears there is a minimum 5 year R&D / testing / retooling, and scale-up delay built in. That would put the W76-2 back in the Obama presidency.

And indeed, the W76 was first conceptualized in 1973, and had been in production since 1979. While the W76 life-extension / revamp as the W76-1 was slated for 207.

Quote:

https://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Usa/Weapons/W76.html

The W76 Warhead

May 1973 Development engineering begun at LANL
June 1978 First production units completed

The first W76 warheads are approaching the end of their originally planned 30 year service life in 2008. This led to the initiation of the W76-1/Mk-4A life extension program in 2000 to refurbish the warheads for decades of further service. The first W76-1 is planned for delivery in September 2007 with completion in 2017.


2000 Planning begun for the W76-1/Mk-4A life extension modification.
9/2007 Delivery of first W76-1 planned.

What brings the timeline up to the Obama presidency where work continued apace.
Quote:

https://www.armscontrol.org/taxonomy/term/44/0?page=24
May 13, 2009
The first two of these LEPs, Life Extension Programs, were done for the ICBM warhead, the W87 and for the Trident warhead, the W76. There are more coming.

Quote:


https://nukewatch.org/pressreleases/Obama-6-19-13.pdf
Obama pledged to reduce nuclear arsenal, then came this weapon

The U.S. is currently conducting a Life Extension Program for the sub-­-launched W76 warhead. This is extending its service life by three decades or more, and giving it a new fuze that is likely capable of more precise heights of burst. As far back as 1997 the head of the Navy’s Strategic Systems pointed out that the combination of increased accuracy and a changed fuze could transform the 100 kiloton W76 from a weapon of deterrence targeting soft targets such as cities into a hard target killer of missile silos and command centers.

https://www.airuniversity.af.edu/Portals/10/CSDS/Books/strategicchalle
nge2.pdf

August 2014
... the President can use a low-yield nuclear weapon instead of being constrained by the large yields of ICBMs or SLBMs.






And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?

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Wednesday, January 15, 2020 5:50 AM

The W76-2 warhead did NOT happen because ... TRUMP! It appears there is a minimum 5 year R&D / testing / retooling, and scale-up delay built in. That would put the W76-2 back in the Obama presidency.

And indeed, the W76 was first conceptualized in 1973, and had been in production since 1979. While the W76 life-extension / revamp as the W76-1 was slated for 2007.

Quote:

https://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Usa/Weapons/W76.html

The W76 Warhead

May 1973 Development engineering begun at LANL
June 1978 First production units completed

The first W76 warheads are approaching the end of their originally planned 30 year service life in 2008. This led to the initiation of the W76-1/Mk-4A life extension program in 2000 to refurbish the warheads for decades of further service. The first W76-1 is planned for delivery in September 2007 with completion in 2017.


2000 Planning begun for the W76-1/Mk-4A life extension modification.
9/2007 Delivery of first W76-1 planned.

So the W76 had a history and ongoing investment that goes back 50 years.

The quote brings the timeline up to the Obama presidency where work continued apace.
Quote:

https://www.armscontrol.org/taxonomy/term/44/0?page=24
May 13, 2009
The first two of these LEPs, Life Extension Programs, were done for the ICBM warhead, the W87 and for the Trident warhead, the W76. There are more coming.

Quote:


https://nukewatch.org/pressreleases/Obama-6-19-13.pdf
Obama pledged to reduce nuclear arsenal, then came this weapon

The U.S. is currently conducting a Life Extension Program for the sub-­-launched W76 warhead. This is extending its service life by three decades or more, and giving it a new fuze that is likely capable of more precise heights of burst. As far back as 1997 the head of the Navy’s Strategic Systems pointed out that the combination of increased accuracy and a changed fuze could transform the 100 kiloton W76 from a weapon of deterrence targeting soft targets such as cities into a hard target killer of missile silos and command centers.

https://www.airuniversity.af.edu/Portals/10/CSDS/Books/strategicchalle
nge2.pdf

August 2014
... the President can use a low-yield nuclear weapon instead of being constrained by the large yields of ICBMs or SLBMs.






And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?

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Wednesday, January 15, 2020 5:51 AM

The W76-2 warhead did NOT happen because ... TRUMP! It appears there is a minimum 5 year R&D / testing / retooling, and scale-up delay built in. That would put the W76-2 back in the Obama presidency.

And indeed, the W76 was first conceptualized in 1973, and had been in production since 1979. While the W76 life-extension / revamp as the W76-1 was slated for 2007.

Quote:

https://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Usa/Weapons/W76.html

The W76 Warhead

May 1973 Development engineering begun at LANL
June 1978 First production units completed

The first W76 warheads are approaching the end of their originally planned 30 year service life in 2008. This led to the initiation of the W76-1/Mk-4A life extension program in 2000 to refurbish the warheads for decades of further service. The first W76-1 is planned for delivery in September 2007 with completion in 2017.


2000 Planning begun for the W76-1/Mk-4A life extension modification.
9/2007 Delivery of first W76-1 planned.

So the W76 had a history and ongoing investment that goes back 50 years.

The quote below brings the timeline up to the Obama presidency where work continued apace.
Quote:

https://www.armscontrol.org/taxonomy/term/44/0?page=24
May 13, 2009
The first two of these LEPs, Life Extension Programs, were done for the ICBM warhead, the W87 and for the Trident warhead, the W76. There are more coming.

Quote:


https://nukewatch.org/pressreleases/Obama-6-19-13.pdf
Obama pledged to reduce nuclear arsenal, then came this weapon

The U.S. is currently conducting a Life Extension Program for the sub-­-launched W76 warhead. This is extending its service life by three decades or more, and giving it a new fuze that is likely capable of more precise heights of burst. As far back as 1997 the head of the Navy’s Strategic Systems pointed out that the combination of increased accuracy and a changed fuze could transform the 100 kiloton W76 from a weapon of deterrence targeting soft targets such as cities into a hard target killer of missile silos and command centers.

Quote:

https://www.airuniversity.af.edu/Portals/10/CSDS/Books/strategicchalle
nge2.pdf

August 2014
... the President can use a low-yield nuclear weapon instead of being constrained by the large yields of ICBMs or SLBMs.

One could try and blame it all on Trump, but given the 50 year history, it would look stupid.





And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?

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