Joker
POSTED BY: SHINYGOODGUY
UPDATED: Monday, March 30, 2026 18:33
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6IX - good vid. Nailed it spot on. Save for the part where individuals bear no blame for their own actions, ( I think we put too much emphasis on what " society " made them do ) , I fully agree. And yes, it's never just ONE thing that makes up why we react and act on stuff. Anyone who posts on a message board will attest to the cumulative effect that comments by others can have on what is said. The whole story can't be told in just one snap shot.
** Still need to finish the Toronto Film Fest vid. So far, so good though. Need to watch the ' after ' part now. 
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I did not watch the Shives video. Shives gives me hives.
I will not, from this point on, give this guy the time of day. His integrity, if he ever had any, is shot with me, after that lie about "Randall" giving Arthur the gun with no reason behind it.
He never saw the film, is what I think. He's done!
SGG
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I will give Ink a look-see. I will try to fit it into my schedule.
sgg
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Go with someone who hasn't seen it.
sgg
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Exactly Rappy.
One could admire a work of art without giving up their first born. But yeah, Joker is a masterpiece, make no mistake, but it doesn't have to become your "fav" unless you go for that type of film.
I hold lots of films in high esteem, but don't have them in my Top Ten. Those films are "favs" that happen to be masterstrokes in film making. These are films I don't mind watching over and over again (well, duh!).
But you've hit the nail on the head.
I still haven't watched it a second time. I probably won't until it's out of theaters, unless my other brother has some free time before then and we can catch a cheap matinee somewhere.
But now that the experience has worn off, I still think my favorite flick is Ink, from 2009.
I'd love to know what you thought of Ink if you saw it. Pretty amazing to see what they were able to do with only $250,000.
I get chills just watching the trailer again. Going to have to watch it again myself soon.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Just watched the "Media needs the Joker to fail" video. He touches upon a lot of key points, but I need to see it again (he really went so fast, I almost couldn't keep up), but generally I liked his criticism. Very well done backing his points with solid examples.
SGG
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
It cost $55M to make, I think it's well past 20 times.
It's got to make $1.1 Billion worldwide to get the 20 times. It's close, and I have little doubt that it will, but we're only at $857 Million right now.
At $283 Million, it's now the 6th highest grossing movie domestically in the US. It's got to pull in another $43 million domestically to take number 5 from Deadpool 2, but if it can manage that, it shouldn't be a problem to get number 4 from It as well. I don't think it's going to get any higher than that though, looking at the numbers. It would take some sort of major resurgence of interest, or a very long time in the theaters to break $350 Million domestically and take the third spot. It would need another $20 million beyond that to take number 1.
I did not watch the Shives video. Shives gives me hives.
I'll watch that Q & A though and let you know what I think.
Here's a video I saw last night that you guys need to watch. I think it says it all about why the critics (only) in the US are so negative against the Joker.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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It turns out the laugh track was all in his head...
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GEOKER video - " like "
Also... one last update -
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Joker is on the doorstep to making 1 billion dollars.
AND THAT IS WITH OUT ANY DOLLARS COMING FROM CHINA !
Joker was denied being shown in the Chinese market. Truly amazing.
With the soft performances of other current movies, ( Terminator, and poor screening reports for Star Wars ) I wonder if Hollywood is having any second thoughts on this whole woke nonsense.
My guess they're too damn arrogant to admit failure.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
After tallying the 4th weekend numbers, Joker is officially the number 1 R rated movie worldwide as well as internationally.
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Joker-(2019)#tab=summary
It is number 7 domestically, as of the Monday night take, but it's almost a sure thing to beat out the terrible Matrix Reloaded and take the number 6 spot after tonight... if not, it will have by Wednesday night.
1. The Passion of the Christ $370,782,930
2. Deadpool $363,070,709
3. American Sniper $350,126,372
4. It $327,481,748
5. Deadpool 2 $324,591,735
6. The Matrix Reloaded $281,553,689
7. Joker $279,701,557
https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-records/worldwide/all-movies/mp
aa-ratings/r-(us)
25 million and 28 million to overtake "Deadpool 2" and "It" shouldn't be a problem. Likely to happen two weeks from now when the weekend numbers are in then.
It should still have another two months in the theaters domestically, at least. It probably won't get the full four months that Captain Marvel did before it left theaters, but Alita Battle Angel only made $85 million domestically and got a three month domestic run.
Is it possible for Joker to make another $89 million in two months to take number one?
It would be quite funny if it did and it triggers Mel Gibson to go on a drunken rampage again.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Just looking at the numbers tonight and it's in 4th place for R Rated Domestic take now, with $331 Million.
That looks like as good as it's going to get. Judging by what I'm seeing it's probably not going to make much more than another $1.25 Million by the end of this week, and it would have to hold that number for about another 15 or 16 weeks to make it, which isn't going to happen.
But of the three that have beaten it, it has still brought in quite a bit more money worldwide than all of them. American Sniper ($547 Million + 80 Million in BluRay/DVD), Deadpool (801 Million + 107 Million in BluRay/DVD) and Passion of the Christ (622 Million). It also beats any of them even if you account for inflation, and you know that it's going to sell a lot of discs when it's out of the theaters.
What is also interesting to note here is that all 4 of the top R Rated movies have had surprisingly low and surprisingly similar production budgets.
Joker: $55 Million
Deadpool: $58 Million
American Sniper: $58 Million
Passion of the Christ: $25 Million
Inflation adjustments for Deadpool and Sniper would be pretty inconsequential add only 5 to 10 percent. Inflation for Christ, however, would be around 40%, and put that number closer to $40 Million for the production budget.
If you include inflation, all four of these movies combined cost around 30 Million more than Captain Marvel cost to make (175 Million), and far less than the $400 Million production budget of Avengers: End Game.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Joker snags Best Soundtrack and Best Actor in a Drama. Was also nominated for best Drama Motion Picture and Best Director.
Looks like Second was wrong again. Imagine that.
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