STAR WARS Episode 9: The Final Abortion
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Quote:Classics need to be remade. I expect Disney will remake Star Wars -- A New Hope sometime in the next 20 years with a new actor to play Luke Skywalker, but Darth Vader will be . . . "Obi-Wan never told you. Luke, I am your Mother."
Originally posted by AURaptor:
These shows should be required viewing in HS.
I was surprised that my 20 something yr old nephews had never even seen the original Die Hard.
Classics need to be appreciated
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Second is attempting to troll everyone, if you haven't all figured it out yet.
Whether it was his idea or some pink haired weirdo at Salon.com, it doesn't matter.
Now that SW was a failure that we've said it would be, the new tactic is to just deride anyone who liked the originals by calling them man babies without actually saying the words. I mean, Star Wars is for kids, yanno.
It would actually be kind of smart if their historic behavior and tactics aren't already enshrined on the internet. I mean to say that they're a breed that prefers loud noise and theatrics rather than covert ops.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Hollywood may be totally screwed up, but Burbank has never let anyone down.
(btw, I met Lisa Loring at a Megacon Sci Fi Convention a few years ago and she was wonderful. She still looks great and was very friendly.)
And then there's the best tv ever had.....
Most of the people in these videos are dead, just thought I'd throw that in.
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Quote:I liked Star Wars 4, 5, & 6. George Lucas worked extra hard on the script for #4, revising it over and over, and it had appeal to adults. #5 had two scriptwriters, Leigh Brackett & Lawrence Kasdan, both had written for adults. They abandoned a script for #5 that wasn't working. The director was NOT George Lucas. Then Star Wars #1, 2, 3 had crap written and directed by George Lucas. Truly juvenile work that Lucas did not bother to rewrite. First draft was the final draft of the screenplay, but with flashy fights and the same old John Williams' pop orchestra music the children couldn't tell the difference.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Second is attempting to troll everyone, if you haven't all figured it out yet.
Whether it was his idea or some pink haired weirdo at Salon.com, it doesn't matter.
Now that SW was a failure that we've said it would be, the new tactic is to just deride anyone who liked the originals by calling them man babies without actually saying the words. I mean, Star Wars is for kids, yanno.
It would actually be kind of smart if their historic behavior and tactics aren't already enshrined on the internet. I mean to say that they're a breed that prefers loud noise and theatrics rather than covert ops.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
You can actual measure how much Executive Producer George Lucas' taste in script-writing was soured as he got rich and fat by looking at Indiana Jones IV. Lucas had a perfectly good script which he tossed in the trash for an inferior one because Lucas wanted to add Indy's son, "Mutt". If Lucas adds "Mutt" then something had to be deleted to keep the run-time unchanged. Too much was deleted and reconfigured. But would children notice? Nah, they have no concept. They can't tell the difference, but Lucas wanted a younger actor to takeover from Harrison Ford, so "Mutt" had to be added.
1) 50 Strengths of Darabont’s Draft
http://mysterymanonfilm.blogspot.com/2008/06/50-strengths-of-darabonts
-draft.html
2) Indiana Jones and the City of the Gods by Frank Darabont
https://file.wikileaks.org/file/indiana-jones-4.pdf
3) Fifty Flaws of Indy IV
http://mysterymanonfilm.blogspot.com/2008/05/50-flaws-of-indy-iv.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Did you see Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (2016)? That is NOT a kid's movie, mostly because it had an adult purpose: show how hard it was to make it easy for Luke to destroy the Death Star. The designer of the Death Star died to make it convenient for Luke to simply hit one spot and destroy that machine. The designer's daughter died to get the plans her father left for her. The whole crew of the Rogue One died to get those plans. Definitely for a more mature audience than Star Wars 4. And it took a very long time to put together, unlike the juvenile Star Wars being made now by Disney.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogue_One#Development
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:I liked Star Wars 4, 5, & 6. George Lucas worked extra hard on the script for #4, revising it over and over, and it had appeal to adults. #5 had two scriptwriters, Leigh Brackett & Lawrence Kasdan, both had written for adults. They abandoned a script for #5 that wasn't working. The director was NOT George Lucas. Then Star Wars #1, 2, 3 had crap written and directed by George Lucas. Truly juvenile work that Lucas did not bother to rewrite. First draft was the final draft of the screenplay, but with flashy fights and the same old John Williams' pop orchestra music the children couldn't tell the difference.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Second is attempting to troll everyone, if you haven't all figured it out yet.
Whether it was his idea or some pink haired weirdo at Salon.com, it doesn't matter.
Now that SW was a failure that we've said it would be, the new tactic is to just deride anyone who liked the originals by calling them man babies without actually saying the words. I mean, Star Wars is for kids, yanno.
It would actually be kind of smart if their historic behavior and tactics aren't already enshrined on the internet. I mean to say that they're a breed that prefers loud noise and theatrics rather than covert ops.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
You can actual measure how much Executive Producer George Lucas' taste in script-writing was soured as he got rich and fat by looking at Indiana Jones IV. Lucas had a perfectly good script which he tossed in the trash for an inferior one because Lucas wanted to add Indy's son, "Mutt". If Lucas adds "Mutt" then something had to be deleted to keep the run-time unchanged. Too much was deleted and reconfigured. But would children notice? Nah, they have no concept. They can't tell the difference, but Lucas wanted a younger actor to takeover from Harrison Ford, so "Mutt" had to be added.
1) 50 Strengths of Darabont’s Draft
http://mysterymanonfilm.blogspot.com/2008/06/50-strengths-of-darabonts
-draft.html
2) Indiana Jones and the City of the Gods by Frank Darabont
https://file.wikileaks.org/file/indiana-jones-4.pdf
3) Fifty Flaws of Indy IV
http://mysterymanonfilm.blogspot.com/2008/05/50-flaws-of-indy-iv.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
I didn't see Indiana Jones IV, or any Star Wars movie after Episode II.
At the end of the day, I kind of wish the only ones I saw were the original trilogy, but my memories of I and II are virtually gone by now, so they didn't ruin it like the sequels to the Matrix ruined the first movie for me.
I think the lesson here is that Hollywood isn't ever going to learn its lesson and we're going to keep getting half-baked reboot shit shoved in our face constantly, so it's incumbent upon us to tell them no and just not go and see any of it anymore.
For instance, I'm glad that they recognized they made a mistake with Ghostbusters 2016, but that being said, I have no real desire to see the new movie coming out at the same time.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Disney makes most of its income from the theme parks and media networks it owns. Movie income is small, comparatively, which explains why movies are made from recycled plastic. Why bother to make those from sturdier adult material when weak and juvenile sells, yet is so much quicker and easier to make?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I didn't see Indiana Jones IV, or any Star Wars movie after Episode II.
At the end of the day, I kind of wish the only ones I saw were the original trilogy, but my memories of I and II are virtually gone by now, so they didn't ruin it like the sequels to the Matrix ruined the first movie for me.
I think the lesson here is that Hollywood isn't ever going to learn its lesson and we're going to keep getting half-baked reboot shit shoved in our face constantly, so it's incumbent upon us to tell them no and just not go and see any of it anymore.
For instance, I'm glad that they recognized they made a mistake with Ghostbusters 2016, but that being said, I have no real desire to see the new movie coming out at the same time.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
"Revenue of the Walt Disney Company in the fiscal year 2019, by operating segment"
www.statista.com/statistics/193140/revenue-of-the-walt-disney-company-
by-operating-segment/
Even Star Wars toys and Halloween costumes for Princesses make almost as much money as Disney movies. And those toys and clothes aren't made by highly paid American movie technicians and crafts.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:
Classics need to be remade. I expect Disney will remake Star Wars -- A New Hope sometime in the next 20 years with a new actor to play Luke Skywalker, but Darth Vader will be . . . "Obi-Wan never told you. Luke, I am your Mother."y
I pray to the old gods and the new that we'll be done w/ this crap before that ever happens.
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Damn... those retro dancing vids are atomic.
A young Daivd McCallum ( not dead yet ) playing the base is awesome. And wowza… Patty Duke. 
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Wow. It really doesn't seem to be doing well outside of the US compared to the last two...
The Force Awakens (Final Numbers):
Domestic Box Office $936,662,225
International Box Office $1,131,561,399
The Last Jedi (Final Numbers):
Domestic Box Office $620,181,382
International Box Office $712,358,507
After two weekends, here's the numbers for Episode 9:
Domestic Box Office $390,602,536
International Box Office $383,300,000
Two things could account for this though. The opening night here in the states was actually on a Thursday, even though the-numbers.com chooses to lump that date in with the first Friday. So the $89+ Million opening night was actually spread over two nights here, and I've heard it was around $44 Million of the total.
It can be assumed the two previous entries were also aired on a Thursday and it took some time for the international box office to catch up and surpass that additional money. Who knows how long that took though, since the-numbers doesn't provide a week by week breakdown for any country outside of the US.
Also, I heard that South Korea had not begun showing it either. I believe that it opened either this past weekend or will open next weekend in SK. We probably won't know the answer to that one either if it doesn't generate enough revenue to rise out of "Rest of World" status.
It will be interesting to see what the final numbers are.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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