STAR WARS Episode 9: The Final Abortion
POSTED BY: whozit
UPDATED: Wednesday, February 26, 2025 15:30
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Originally posted by whozit:
Dam it! I just noticed something! Check for your self, you can spot a "access critic" so E-Z. They all say the same thing about ep 9, they write or say "well...it had some good scenes" or, "There were some good parts". This flick is going to tank next weekend, I bet a 50% or more drop.
lol next weekend?
Oh, did you mean that it will do well opening weekend and then die?
I thought you were so disinterested that you didn't realize that it was premiering tonight.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:
Dam it! I just noticed something! Check for your self, you can spot a "access critic" so E-Z. They all say the same thing about ep 9, they write or say "well...it had some good scenes" or, "There were some good parts". This flick is going to tank next weekend, I bet a 50% or more drop.
lol next weekend?
Oh, did you mean that it will do well opening weekend and then die?
I thought you were so disinterested that you didn't realize that it was premiering tonight.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Sorry but the dark side of me is enjoying this...get it? The "dark side". AHHAHAHAHAHA!! It must suck to be the people who make STAR WARS toys at Hasbro, do they know all the toys they've made are going into a grinder? All those Rose Tico's are going to become car parts and I phone cases.
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lol. Yeah. I'm pretty sure they're still backed up shredding toys from The Force Awakens and they haven't even gotten to Last Jedi yet.
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Hmmmm...
It may have done much better than expected on the first night, despite hearing that every single spoiler that came out about it was true and a lot of people knew what was going to happen going into it.
Can't say for sure without the details, but the-numbers.com was predicting only a 40 Million dollar opening night last night, but now they've changed that number to 90 Million, even though the actual totals aren't in. No word on their site why they made that change, or how they would get information that would make them change that number.
If the new prediction is right, that's more than twice what was initially predicted it would pull in, but still 30 Million less than The Force Awakens and 15 Million less than The Last Jedi.
It probably didn't stand a chance cracking 1 Billion if it had a 40 Million opening night domestically, but it might eek out a win if it's showing well internationally and it has legs.
They're predicting that it made around 60 Million internationally right now.
I can't seem to find any comparable data for what The Last Jedi made opening night internationally. Any website that I look at only shows individual totals by country for the entire opening weekend, and the entire total worldwide which stated that it made $450 million. Minus the $220 million it made in the states, that's $230 million internationally for the whole weekend.
If the numbers internationally go the same way they do here in the states, generally speaking, Saturday night will be less by as much as 40% than Friday night (as was the case with The Last Jedi).
If the $90 Million US projection and the $60 Million international projections are correct, I'm going to guess that Episode 9 pulls in $320 Million internationally in the first weekend, which is about $120 Million less than Episode 8.
That number may be larger if they throw in Thursday's early showings.
Come to think of it... I wonder if that's where the additional money came from? I'm looking at TLJ right now on the-numbers.com and they don't show any data for December 14th, 2017, which would have been the early Thursday showings.
That would also explain why there was a 40% drop from Friday to Saturday which seemed a little steep to me.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Hmmmm...
It may have done much better than expected on the first night, despite hearing that every single spoiler that came out about it was true and a lot of people knew what was going to happen going into it.
Can't say for sure without the details, but the-numbers.com was predicting only a 40 Million dollar opening night last night, but now they've changed that number to 90 Million, even though the actual totals aren't in. No word on their site why they made that change, or how they would get information that would make them change that number.
If the new prediction is right, that's more than twice what was initially predicted it would pull in, but still 30 Million less than The Force Awakens and 15 Million less than The Last Jedi.
It probably didn't stand a chance cracking 1 Billion if it had a 40 Million opening night domestically, but it might eek out a win if it's showing well internationally and it has legs.
They're predicting that it made around 60 Million internationally right now.
I can't seem to find any comparable data for what The Last Jedi made opening night internationally. Any website that I look at only shows individual totals by country for the entire opening weekend, and the entire total worldwide which stated that it made $450 million. Minus the $220 million it made in the states, that's $230 million internationally for the whole weekend.
If the numbers internationally go the same way they do here in the states, generally speaking, Saturday night will be less by as much as 40% than Friday night (as was the case with The Last Jedi).
If the $90 Million US projection and the $60 Million international projections are correct, I'm going to guess that Episode 9 pulls in $320 Million internationally in the first weekend, which is about $120 Million less than Episode 8.
That number may be larger if they throw in Thursday's early showings.
Come to think of it... I wonder if that's where the additional money came from? I'm looking at TLJ right now on the-numbers.com and they don't show any data for December 14th, 2017, which would have been the early Thursday showings.
That would also explain why there was a 40% drop from Friday to Saturday which seemed a little steep to me.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
I wouldn't get too deep into this, if Disney cared about this ep 9 would have been over 3 hours, they just want this mess over, after New Years this will be all forgotten. Ep 7-9 will go down with, Godfather 3, Jaws 2 and Blues Brothers 2000, the Fandom will forget this ugly mess ever happened.
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Yeah, but nobody WANTS to lose money.
Despite the surprisingly decent showing here, it didn't do very well internationally, with the UK by far being the largest contributor with just over 8 million dollars.
It couldn't even crack 4 million in China last night, and they're predicting that in China it will only make a total of 18 million dollars. Not good when you compare that to the 40 million TLJ made in China and the 120 million TFA made there.
Guess Disney's game of "Hide the Black Guy" didn't work as well for the Chinese audience as they had hoped it would.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Oh...
And although I still don't have any direct links to prove it, I have heard that the 90 Million for "opening night" does indeed include Thursday night showings which may have totaled 44 Million dollars.
This would account the change overnight at the-numbers.com from 40 million to 90 million without having said anything about it.
I think that's a great website, but they really should differentiate between the money earned on two separate "opening" days since they seem to be positioning themselves to be the authority on box office numbers.
I feel it quite disingenuous to lump the two of those numbers together, although I'm not accusing the-numbers of having any bias or reason to do so.
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The international numbers summarized.
Star Wars Ep. VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Domestic Box Office $936,662,225
International Box Office $1,131,561,399
Worldwide Box Office $2,068,223,624
Star Wars Ep. VIII: The Last Jedi (2017)
Domestic Box Office $620,181,382
International Box Office $712,358,507
Worldwide Box Office $1,332,539,889
Both of these movies grossed a bit more internationally than in the US, at what looks to be about the same ratio without doing the math.
This is why I don't like lumping Thursday's numbers with Friday's. On first glance, it would appear that TROS is in huge trouble when the US box office blew it out of the water on the first night. But if the only place where there were Thursday showings was here in the states, that's probably not true.
Will know more after a few weekends have passed how it's doing internationally.
And, though I might get some hate for saying it, anybody who's listening to that Nerdrotic guy should really unsub from that channel. His edited video's aren't the worst thing in the world, but the live streams he does are cringy AF. Had youtube auto playing stuff in the background while I was doing other things yesterday and he got on my nerves so bad with his whining and bitching that I've got to spend a few days actively telling youtube to stop recommending his stuff to me.
That alone probably wouldn't bother me, but it's the fact that he sits there reading posts from people who paid to get their post read. Even people who don't seem to like him are paying money to get their posts read.
I realize that with streaming services like Twitch, this has become a more common practice over the years, but people really need to stop giving money to whiny cringy nerds whining and girls who wear push up bras and do jumping jacks.
This whole practice started with porn, and seems to have bled into the mainstream and it's gross.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Okay... and after two nights, the numbers at the-numbers gets stranger.
I have both today's page up as well as the page from yesterday that has the old numbers, but because I didn't archive the page it will be gone as soon as I refresh the page or restart the computer. :(
So... if anybody knows how I could possibly save that before it's gone, let me know. Otherwise, all I have is an archival from the morning of the 22nd I just made that I'll link here: https://archive.is/bDtAG
It's identical to what's up on the site right now, but come Monday it can be compared against new numbers.
Anyway... to what it says currently...
US Box office for the weekend.
Dec 20, 2019 $90,000,000
Dec 21, 2019 $47,500,000
Dec 22, 2019 $38,000,000
All of these are projections right now still, given the nice round numbers and that Sunday night hasn't even occurred yet. No fault of anyone there. I'm sure those will be cleared up in the coming days to paint an exact picture of the weekend.
I'm still going to go forward based off of the assumption that Friday's numbers include the alleged $44 Million it made on Thursday as well until I hear otherwise. It just doesn't make any sense that it would drop 47% from Friday to Saturday night.
No problems there... yet.
But the international numbers on day two are perplexing.
International Box Office $198,000,000
198 Million? How is that possible? Just yesterday with actual reported real numbers they only had $59.5 Million internationally, with 8 million from the UK, 7 million from Germany and 4 million from China among the top 10 countries, and 17 million from "rest of world".
The only country that seems to have given them an update out of the "top 10" so far was China. Their number after two nights is $6,090,000. China's number after one night was $3,630,000. That's a drop of 33% viewership from Friday to Saturday night in China.
If anything, that would suggest to me that the numbers for Saturday and Sunday night everywhere else would be lower than Opening Night, yet we've gone from under 60 Million actual reported dollars internationally in one day to 198 Million internationally in 3? Even if there were zero loss of interest and they sold the exact same amount of tickets all three nights that would only amount to 180 Million.
Another odd thing, is the "Total Box Office" for the "rest of the world" total has actually decreased since the first day. It was at $17,361,057 yesterday. Today it is at $14,901,057.
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Well...
MS Paint and my limited digital artistic ability to the rescue...
https://ibb.co/M766FrJ
Without having the foresight to archive any pages until today, the archive I made from this morning and this image of yesterday morning are probably the only historic data saved on this movie to compare to new data.
Even with both of these pages preserved, the initial prediction of only $40 Million USD from the page on Friday is probably lost forever.
Before a little print-screen and cut-and-paste action in Paint, I did try to "Save Page" in Firefox, thinking that even if it didn't save anything that would really look like the page that was on my screen that it would at least save all the data that was on that old page, but it didn't. It actually saved the new page as it was from the source, rather than save the data currently on my screen.
That's a cool little oddity and a bit of trivia that I didn't know before.
So, feel free to compare the numbers for yourself and tell me if you don't feel like you're going to blow a gasket trying to make any sense of them. 
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Weird...
Two other site's I've tried to use to archive the-numbers don't work. One of them doesn't work at all, and the most well-known archive.org saves the page with zero financial results.
https://web.archive.org/web/20191103112504/https://www.the-numbers.com
/movie/Star-Wars-The-Rise-of-Skywalker-(2019)#tab=summary
The reason that I tried now is because just within a few hours of the last post I made, everything has changed wildly from before. The numbers look seriously inflated compared to what we were seeing. I think Disney is up to something.
I was going to archive it again on the one site that worked so far, but it says "that page was already archived. Archive again if the data looks obsolete.", and I'm afraid if I did that there it would remove the old one.
I'm going to make images in paint for the new one and the one I archived first and put them all in a single post to compare.
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