Serenity Screener - spoilers
POSTED BY: KevinIanBeaumont
UPDATED: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 22:13
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I wondered if anyone else noticed that Joss's shows just get dark and serious after a while and that he gets rid of the really fun characters. I also wondered if anyone else is as turned off by Joss's shows when they make that turn as I am. I didn't buy the fourth season of Angel or the seventh season of Buffy because they were too dark and serious and now Mal is dark and Wash is dead in Serenity. Inara is gone and Book is dead. That only leaves Kaylee around to lighten things up. Does anyone else find a problem with that situation cropping up in a Joss show again?
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This thread and the turn it has taken is exactly the reason that Joss hates spoilers.
I saw the screening the other night and a portion of you are taking a few tidbits (THAT NO ONE SHOULD HAVE LEAKED) and completely jumping to erroneous conclusions.
Everything in the movie worked and it was for a damn good reason. Joss stuck to his vision for once and a studio supported it.
Geez I am glad all you softies weren't overseeing production. Seems like you all would have watered down Joss' vision the same way those assholes at Fox did.
Suck it up. This movie is one hell of a ride and it runs you through every possible emotion. I left it happy, sad, elated, angry and exhausted.
Sounds like good fiction to me.
Maybe a Disney flick would be more up your alley next time.
sheesh!
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One reason I'm a spoiler junkie is that I need time to absorb the shock. I hadn't read the spoilers for Angel 5x22 and it ripped my heart out. If I know ahead of time, I can process it like a normal viewer. (Just for the record, the 2nd and 3rd time I watched, it only hurt like h*ll.)
So, let those of us who need to vent, vent. Taking it too seriously is just as bad as those who take focus groups seriously. We'll still plunk down our $$ for the movie and dvd.
And if Joss wants to play with our heads, then how can he complain if we need some psychological defenses?
terry
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Originally posted by tlacook:
This thread and the turn it has taken is exactly the reason that Joss hates spoilers.
I saw the screening the other night and a portion of you are taking a few tidbits (THAT NO ONE SHOULD HAVE LEAKED) and completely jumping to erroneous conclusions.
Everything in the movie worked and it was for a damn good reason. Joss stuck to his vision for once and a studio supported it.
Geez I am glad all you softies weren't overseeing production. Seems like you all would have watered down Joss' vision the same way those assholes at Fox did.
Suck it up. This movie is one hell of a ride and it runs you through every possible emotion. I left it happy, sad, elated, angry and exhausted.
Sounds like good fiction to me.
Maybe a Disney flick would be more up your alley next time.
sheesh!
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Terry,
I have no issue with those of you who feel a need to prepare or protect yourself.
My concern is the bile spewing forth from those who choose to make erroneous assumptions about the movie and about Joss.
Others may read it and get the wrong idea. To say that Joss does things like typical Hollywood is so wrong, it is laughable.
My point is that those who want picture perfect happy endings should go see a Lindsay Lohan flick and leave the tough stuff to the grown-ups.
I know this sounds cranky but, someone has to stand up for the integrity of what Joss is doing. It is his story and I have yet to see very many neatly wrapped up happy endings come from Joss.
What exactly are people expecting?
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Um, guys....this is Sci-Fi. Anything can, will, and does happen. So we lose a character, or two, or more .... What is to keep the big blue hand guys from say cloning them?
Really?
try to keep an open mind and look at where it could go.
As for everything else, This is closer to what Firefly was supposed to be, Ron Glass was not signed up for a full season anyhow, his was an added character from the beginning. If by chance he signs on for more, Joss will find a way to include him...end of discussion.
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I too had worried about this possible reaction when I first heard about the movie. We (slightly rabid) fans have taken this show and allowed it to enter and change our lives. We love the characters, we can quote them at will, write fanfics about them, and feel like we KNOW them. Our dreams for the future of Serenity involved all 10 characters (Serenity herself included).
But this isn't our show, it's Joss' show. Anything he does with his creation is because it follows his vision for the show, whether we like it or not, understand it or not, or approve or not. We'll have to accept the changes being made to our personal views of the Firefly 'verse. Or we can stop being fans.
Will SERENITY be the best movie ever? No. But from all accounts it will be chock full of thrilling heroics, great dialogue, action, adventure, comedy, mortal peril, and tugs on our heartstrings. And I am still looking forward to seeing it whenever it is finally released.
EDIT: Wow! That didn't sound so pompous in my head....
MAL "You only gotta scare him."
JAYNE "Pain is scary..."
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Quote:I know what you mean, but I don't think we need to worry about its affect on the success of the movie. The trash-talking fans will still go to the movie and the new audience will be blissfully ignorant of the trash-talking. The carping sounds loud to us, but we have our heads in a very small bucket
Originally posted by DarkJester:
I too had worried about this possible reaction when I first heard about the movie.
... when did this become not funny?
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as i said earlier i am a spoiler whore,and i am still very sad to see walsh and book die BUT i still believe that this movie will be amazing.this is exactly the reason why i love joss because each death has affected HIS characters they have grown,if buffy was till in high school by season 7 guess who would have not been watching it?--me incase some of you dont know.angel was still affected by doyles death in season 5.in my own life i have lost loved ones,and those losses have shaped me into who i am,who i still am becoming.we evolve every day, every second because that is what living is whether we believe it or not.so for those who have already said they arent going to see this or dont think it's gonna be good----ease off. the wheel never stops turning.
"Hamsters is nice."
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I just read the posts after my post and am not persuaded to change my views.
I understand that Joss is driving the Firefly/Serenity bus but I'm not going to follow Joss down any road that he wants to take. I'll get off after my first viewing of the movie, if I don't like it and that's not a threat. It's a simple fact. I'm not one of those fans who will watch the movie 10 times just to see that another one is made. If I don't like Serenity, I will not care much if they make the rest of the trilogy because it's not a trilogy that I will want to see.
From what I've heard and seen of the movie so far, I'm going to be disappointed because of the ways in which it has changed the characters and the story line from what I came to love in the series.
Keep in mind, it was gorram F*X that shaped the series that a lot of us have come to love. I think that most fans are just upset with F*X for not promoting the show and for not sticking with it more. I didn't even know that it existed until I heard the commentary on an Angel DVD and I would have at least watched the pilot had I known that Joss had a another series on the air, since I liked Buffy and Angel.
I'll reserve final judgement for when I see the movie but right now, it's looking like I will end up sticking to my DVDs and some good fan fiction to supply my imagination about these characters and how their stories continue after Objects in Space.
So, do Kaylee and Simon get it on? 
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Quote:I don't know but JiltedToo answers this in the other spoiler thread.
Originally posted by BruisersMom:
So, do Kaylee and Simon get it on?
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