Dr. Fiona Hill
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
SIGNYM: So basically in your opinion it's people like SHINY and TWITCHY and CC and THUGR and JO and you ... and all of the other deep-state supporters ... who are to blame for our endless, pointless wars?
Me: Is it exciting to you to lie so casually?
SIGNYM: WTF are you going on about? I wasn't asking you about your opinion
Maybe if you learned to read with comprehension ... or maybe just read ... you would have noticed that SECOND posted this:
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If things go wrong with policy it is too easy to shift the responsibility to somebody else. The voters, the majority with very short and ridiculously inaccurate memories, let Senators act irresponsibly:
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Senators act irresponsibly because voters, at least the majority, can't remember accurately what the Senator did. A Senator can always talk their way around those voters who can't remember.
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I've got two examples that will shine a light on why Senator Dianne Feinstein voted as she did [pro-war] on the Iraq War.
Example 1: Senator George McGovern ran on a platform that advocated withdrawal from the Vietnam War in exchange for the return of American prisoners of war and amnesty for draft evaders who had left the country. McGovern's platform also included an across-the-board 37-percent reduction in defense spending over three years. Whatever happened to George? This:
In the general election on November 7, 1972, the McGovern–Shriver ticket suffered a 61 percent to 37 percent defeat to Nixon ...
Example 2: During his bid to be elected president in 2004, Senator John Kerry frequently criticized President George W. Bush for starting the Iraq War...
And finally this
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Personally, I blame the average American for wanting to win wars but neither wanting to fight them nor even understand the simple concepts used to calculate how many deaths it takes to win. The average American voter has completely ridiculous ideas they "learned" about military strategy and causalities from movies, comic books, or shows such as Firefly, but the average voter still wants to go to war and win. The average American does not want to understand you can't win if you won't sacrifice your Army with huge casualty numbers. They think you can nuke and smart bomb your way to victory with few American casualties. A magic bullet to kill Hitler or Saddam Hussein is all you need to win is how average Americans think, if you want to call that thinking.
When SECOND can no longer blame Texas Republicans, or the GOP, or Trump, or Trump voters, or all of the above, for all of our ills (especially war) he shifts ground, and instead of blaming the deep state, its compliant media. and its bought-and-paid for political shills (of both parties) he shifts ground and blames THE AVERAGE AMERICAN WHO IS STUPID ABOUT WAR.
Well, around these parts, who would that be?
WISHY, who (among her other emotional disturbances) has turned the mention of "war" into a drinking game?
THUGR, who can't bear to be parted from the deep state?
SHINY, who is so angry that Trump is President that he doesn't realize that Trump actually has some positive foreign policy impulses that should be supported?
JO, who's been driven so bathshit paranoid by Rachel Madcow that he sees dangerous evil Russians everywhere?
YOU, like the other "Democratic" "liberals" here who attack anyone who is against endless pointless wars, and calls antiwar people (including Tulsi Gabbard) "Russian trolls" and other defamatory names?
I wonder WTF is wrong with you all.
Anyway, I was asking SECOND to clarify his several posts, which all seem to be heading in the direction of blaming YOU, my friend, for the clusterfuck that we are in today.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
I'd nuke a BILLION PEOPLE if it woul
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Quote:Issued in ... 2008. When was the Iraq War, again?
Wrong. Signym, you are misleading. Stop fooling us. Here is the Senate Intelligence Committee Report:
"Two Bipartisan Reports Detail Bush Administration Misstatements on Prewar Iraq Intelligence, and Inappropriate Intelligence Activities by Pentagon Policy Office"
www.intelligence.senate.gov/press/senate-intelligence-committee-unveil
s-final-phase-ii-reports-prewar-iraq-intelligence
Quote:Speech given in 2007. When was the Iraq War, again?
Signym, I see that Senator Dianne Feinstein, on the Intelligence Committee, became aware that Bush had been lying about everything on Iraq.
More at www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/speeches?ID=D9E24BBC-FA51-4E
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Quote:Apparently she learned after the fact that being on the Senate Intelligence Committee didn't make her 'all that'.
https://www.salon.com/2005/12/16/intel_11/ "When the Senate voted to authorize the use of force in Iraq in 2002, it was based on a more limited scope of prewar intelligence than was available to the administration," Feinstein said.
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The latest interview with Zelenskiy. I think it's worth reading the whole thing thru. He comes across as a very interesting guy. This is what he said about "quid pro quo":
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Look, I never talked to the President from the position of a quid pro quo. That’s not my thing. … I don’t want us to look like beggars. But you have to understand. We’re at war. If you’re our strategic partner, then you can’t go blocking anything for us. I think that’s just about fairness. It’s not about a quid pro quo. It just goes without saying.
About Ukraine's position in the world of geopolitics
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First off, I would never want Ukraine to be a piece on the map, on the chess board of big global players, so that someone could toss us around, use us as cover, as part of some bargain… As for the United States, I would really want – and we feel this, it’s true – for them to help us, to understand us, to see that we are a player in our own right, that they cannot make deals about us with anyone behind our backs. Of course they help us, and I’m not just talking about technical help, military aid, financial aid. These are important things, very important things, especially right now, when we are in such a difficult position.
About the most urgent issue coming up for Ukraine, which is the loss of $3 billion dollars per year as their "cut" for transiting gas thru to Europe
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I want European leaders to settle on a different result when it comes to Nord Stream, and take different steps. I don’t know what else I can say about North Stream 2. We don’t have influence over the Europeans’ decision. We don’t have it, and that’s it. I don’t have any leverage. I can only count on the strong support that I see on this question from the United States of America.
https://time.com/5742108/ukraine-zelensky-interview-trump-putin-europe/
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Now, I think that his statement that Ukraine is "at war" with Russia is overblown, since they are fighting their own countrymen in the east. But Ukraine DOES need help ... not military help, but economic assistance. They had help before: a total of $45 billion from the IMF/USA/EU, some of which was apparently siphoned off into various oligarchs' pockets; and then they apparently paid Biden (thru his son Hunter) and former Polish President Aleksander Kwazniewski (I said I would dig up that name, it just took me a while!) for protection. And that is why Biden called for Procurator General Shokin (who was investigating Burisma) to be fired.
It's hard for anyone to claim that Ukraine is NOT a corrupt country. President Zelenskiy can hardly claim to have cleaned up the country, so I imagine things have been going on pretty much as before. The only difference now is that (a) the oligarchs, who have been fighting over control of the gas transit and all of the revenues derived from it, are facing a hard deadline when the contract with Gazprom expires and (b) the flood of foreign aid money/ loans which crossed many palms and filled many pockets has slowed to a trickle.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
I'd nuke a BILLION PEOPLE if it would save the other 7 billion from living under Putin. Hell, I might go all the way to the last 100 people on Earth to keep this planet from being under fascist rule.- WISHIMAY
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BILL TAYLOR
Like the (many) State Department/ CIA/FBI/NSA employees who wanted to get rid of Trump so they could continue t make foreign policy, Bill Taylor had his own take on what he thought Ukraine "should" do and how he thought the USA "should" act. According to the Saker
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Bill Taylor’s Private War
According to the NY Times Taylor said “So during my meeting with Secretary Pompeo on May 28, I made clear to him and the others present that if U.S. policy toward Ukraine changed, he would not want me posted there and I could not stay.”
Taylor was so disturbed by the direction the new Ukrainian president was taking by honoring the troop pullback Ukraine just signed in Minsk, he went to the frontline after it started and demanded it stop.
Bill Taylor tried to cause Ukraine to break its agreement with LNR, DNR, and Russia and resume the conflict. Ambassador Taylor demanded nationalist volunteers patrol the areas they were supposed to leave according to the agreement signed by all parties.
So, here’s an ambassador to Ukraine worried about changing the policy toward Ukraine and at the same time trying to intensify the conflict because he doesn’t like US policy.
Ambassador Bill Taylor told the Ukrainian president how he needed to handle internal policy because the Ukrainian president didn’t align with his view of policy.
It’s no wonder when one looks at Taylor’s testimony, he lies about a Russian invasion that Ukraine clearly says never happened and he knows as little about current events there as Alexander Vindman did.
Vindman is also “deeply troubled by what he interpreted as an attempt by the president to subvert U.S. foreign policy.”This is the same proof Taylor offered in his testimony.
https://thesaker.is/bill-taylors-private-war-with-donald-trump-ukraine
-and-russia/
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
I'd nuke a BILLION PEOPLE if it would save the other 7 billion from living under Putin. Hell, I might go all the way to the last 100 people on Earth to keep this planet from being under fascist rule.- WISHIMAY
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Apparently SECOND doesn't want to explicitly name WISHY, CC, THUGR, SHINY, and JO as part of the [stupid average voter] problem but that would be the gist of what he posred about, as far as I can tell.
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Oh, one more thing SECOND: I voted for Obama because, altho he didn't have much of a political record, as Senator he DID vote against the war in Iraq (unlike Hillary, who voted for it and you may recall was also running for President at the time). Once I realized what a clusterfuck he made of our foreign policy I did what YOU said we should do:
I didn't forget what he had done and I didn't let him bamboozle me with lies, I jusr didn't vote for him a second time. (Didn't vote Republican either, voted third party.)
Taking into consideration YOUR advice about holding Senators (and Scys State) accountable, I ALSO didn't forget that not only did Hillary vote for war as Senator, she (along with Obama) helped turn the Mideast and N Africa into failed states: smoking ruins crawling with jihadists that we (directly and indirectly) enabled. Holding her accountable, I didn't vote for her, either.
So, taking YOUR advice, all I get from you is chaff? Seems like the person who fails to remember YOUR advice is ... you!
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
I'd nuke a BILLION PEOPLE if it would save the other 7 billion from living under Putin. Hell, I might go all the way to the last 100 people on Earth to keep this planet from being under fascist rule.- WISHIMAY
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Hill also stated that she believes that World War III is in progress and that the invasion of Ukraine exemplifies that
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/02/28/world-war-iii-alread
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Chancellor of Durham University Britbongistan England Royal Knighthood Sisterhood Lodges, analyst under Presidents little micro Bush and Barack Obama Hill, she is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, she developed a close working relationship with National Security Advisor John Bolton but gossip says and not at Bolton's Zionist Globalist moustachio sexual request, Hill has also been described as a "George Soros mole infiltrating the national-security apparatus".
The Soros Heir Who Is Everywhere This Election
https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/alexander-soros-democratic-dono
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when the jihads Moslem type and Jewy go to marry, Muslim Sisterhood link?
the Weiner flashed his privates and now
Huma Abedin marrying billionaire Alex Soros
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Trump 'indicates Ukraine can conduct long-range strikes into Russia' - as Russia warns US
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15144997/Trump-indicates-Ukra
ine-conduct-long-range-strikes-Russia-Russia-warns-US-giving-Zelensky-Tomahawk-missiles.html
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