Dr. Fiona Hill

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SIGNYM

Saturday, November 30, 2019 2:22 AM

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Signym, I see that Senator Dianne Feinstein, on the Intelligence Committee, became aware that Bush had been lying about everything on Iraq.

If she was so "in the loop" why was she so clueless BEFORE we invaded Iraq?

Was she so flattered by her exalted position that gave her access to "intelligence community secrets" that she didn't realize they were feeding her piles of hot shit?

I don't trust most of the politicians in Congress to be (a) ethically responsible or even (b) normally intelligent, so if you use Congress as a measure of what's true or not, you lost me. And I trust the unelected, unaccountable "intelligence community" hivemind even less than I trust Congress, PARTICULARLY as they have a history of lying their asses off.

And Fiona Hill, in just that short opening statement, revealed what a liar she is too. Why should I credit anything she says?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY

SECOND

Saturday, November 30, 2019 6:34 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Signym, I see that Senator Dianne Feinstein, on the Intelligence Committee, became aware that Bush had been lying about everything on Iraq.
If she was so "in the loop" why was she so clueless BEFORE we invaded Iraq?

Was she so flattered by her exalted position that gave her access to "intelligence community secrets" that she didn't realize they were feeding her piles of hot shit?

I don't trust most of the politicians in Congress to be (a) ethically responsible or even (b) normally intelligent, so if you use Congress as a measure of what's true or not, you lost me. And I trust the unelected, unaccountable "intelligence community" hivemind even less than I trust Congress, PARTICULARLY as they have a history of lying their asses off.

And Fiona Hill, in just that short opening statement, revealed what a liar she is too. Why should I credit anything she says?

Very seldom does a Senator act like they have any responsibilities. If things go wrong with policy it is too easy to shift the responsibility to somebody else. The voters, the majority with very short and ridiculously inaccurate memories, let Senators act irresponsibly: "Feinstein supported the Iraq war resolution in the vote of October 11, 2002; she has since claimed that she was misled by President Bush on the reasons for going to war. However, former UN Weapons Inspector in Iraq Scott Ritter has stated that Feinstein in summer 2002 acknowledged to him that she knew the Bush administration had not provided any convincing intelligence to back up its claims about the Iraqi weapons of mass destruction."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Dianne_Feinstein#
Iraq

You won't hear this from Senator Dianne Feinstein, but she did not oppose the second Iraq War because it was going to happen even without her vote. She did not want to be singled out for opposing the "glorious" victory the US Army would achieve. She remembered the first Iraq War. The first war had a plan for the aftermath. Feinstein didn't calculate that the second war did not have a plan: "State Department experts warned CENTCOM before Iraq war about lack of plans for post-war Iraq security"

Feinstein did not know how idiotic was Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense. She found out that despite the nice suits Donald Rumsfeld wears that he was an empty suit. Apparently it took George Bush about 6 years and a lost midterm election to realize what was wrong with Rumsfeld. Feinstein was much quicker than Bush but still too late.

https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB163/index.htm

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SIGNYM

Saturday, November 30, 2019 7:00 PM

SECOND, you're making my case for me.

So given this fine explanation of Feinstein's (a) gullibility or (b) cowardice or (c) duplicity, why should I look to Congress to tell me what's real and what isn't? Do I really give a rat's ass what the Senate "Intelligence" Committee said about Russia and the 2016 election? Because they seem to be either spectacularly misinformed by our "intelligence community" hivemind or spectacularly willing to bend over and promulgate a falsehood. That wouldn't be the first, second, or even the dozenth time they did that. I don't know what world they live in, but it isn't the real one.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

I'd nuke a BILLION PEOPLE if it would save the other 7 billion from living under Putin. Hell, I might go all the way to the last 100 people on Earth to keep this planet from being under fascist rule.- WISHIMAY

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Saturday, November 30, 2019 7:07 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, you're making my case for me.

So given this fine explanation of Feinstein's (a) gullibility or (b) cowardice or (c) duplicity, why should I look to Congress to tell me what's real and what isn't? Do I really give a rat's ass what the Senate "Intelligence" Committee said about Russia and the 2016 election? Because they seem to be either spectacularly misinformed by our "intelligence community" hivemind or spectacularly willing to bend over and promulgate a falsehood. That wouldn't be the first, second, or even the dozenth time they did that. I don't know what world they live in, but it isn't the reak one.

Gee, lemme guess: it was Ukraine!

lol

SECOND

Saturday, November 30, 2019 7:24 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, you're making my case for me.

So given this fine explanation of Feinstein's (a) gullibility or (b) cowardice or (c) duplicity, why should I look to Congress to tell me what's real and what isn't? Do I really give a rat's ass what the Senate "Intelligence" Committee said about Russia and the 2016 election? Because they seem to be either spectacularly misinformed by our "intelligence community" hivemind or spectacularly willing to bend over and promulgate a falsehood. That wouldn't be the first, second, or even the dozenth time they did that. I don't know what world they live in, but it isn't the real one.

I'm making a slightly different one: Senators act irresponsibly because voters, at least the majority, can't remember accurately what the Senator did. A Senator can always talk their way around those voters who can't remember. Dr. Fiona Hill is a little different. She is responsible for the words that come out of her mouth, which is very unlike the typical Senator who has smoothly hoodwinked the majority of dimwitted voters for years. If the majority of voters weren't dimwits who never vote in primary elections, we'd have a very different kind of Senator.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SIGNYM

Sunday, December 1, 2019 12:03 AM

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SECOND, you're making my case for me.

So given this fine explanation of Feinstein's (a) gullibility or (b) cowardice or (c) duplicity, why should I look to Congress to tell me what's real and what isn't? Do I really give a rat's ass what the Senate "Intelligence" Committee said about Russia and the 2016 election? Because they seem to be either spectacularly misinformed by our "intelligence community" hivemind or spectacularly willing to bend over and promulgate a falsehood. That wouldn't be the first, second, or even the dozenth time they did that. I don't know what world they live in, but it isn't the real one. - SIGNY

I'm making a slightly different one: Senators act irresponsibly because voters, at least the majority, can't remember accurately what the Senator did. - SECOND

Well, I remember what Feinstein did which is why I refused to ever vote for her again. I also remember what Kamala Harris did, which is why I refuse to vote for HER again. Between the two of them they sure took the shine off female "liberal" Democratic Senators as a category!

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A Senator can always talk their way around those voters who can't remember. Dr. Fiona Hill is a little different. She is responsible for the words that come out of her mouth, which is very unlike the typical Senator who has smoothly hoodwinked the majority of dimwitted voters for years. If the majority of voters weren't dimwits who never vote in primary elections, we'd have a very different kind of Senator.- SECOND

How is Fiona Hill different? She bamboozled the liberals who listened to her and she's got the media covering her backside. For example, her dad was a union coal miner, and in those days the unions were pretty pro-socialist. And nobody will point out that her family fought on the same side as Russia in WWII. This aocryphal dad of hers, who is safely dead and can't be questioned, may have had a greater emotional connection to Russia than the USA. But all we know is what she said, and the media fawned all over her instead of challenging her testimony and pointing out that she saw nothing, heard nothing, and did nothing related to Ukraingate, and all she transmitted was heresay. And look at what happened as a result of the M%M putting her on a pedestal: SHINY thinks she's Einstein and Joan d'Arc all rolled into one.

On top of that, even if she lied her ass off, where is the accountability for her perfidy? Is she going to get voted out of office? NOPE! She'll just go merrily along her career, from government to think tank back to goverment, spewing bullshit as she goes. She would be a great example of a Junior Member of the Deep State: an unelected, unaccountable, media-protected part of "the intelligence community".

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

I'd nuke a BILLION PEOPLE if it would save the other 7 billion from living under Putin. Hell, I might go all the way to the last 100 people on Earth to keep this planet from being under fascist rule.- WISHIMAY

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Sunday, December 1, 2019 2:15 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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SECOND, you're making my case for me.

So given this fine explanation of Feinstein's (a) gullibility or (b) cowardice or (c) duplicity, why should I look to Congress to tell me what's real and what isn't? Do I really give a rat's ass what the Senate "Intelligence" Committee said about Russia and the 2016 election? Because they seem to be either spectacularly misinformed by our "intelligence community" hivemind or spectacularly willing to bend over and promulgate a falsehood. That wouldn't be the first, second, or even the dozenth time they did that. I don't know what world they live in, but it isn't the real one. - SIGNY

I'm making a slightly different one: Senators act irresponsibly because voters, at least the majority, can't remember accurately what the Senator did. - SECOND
Well, I remember what Feinstein did which is why I refused to ever vote for her again. I also remember what Kamala Harris did, which is why I refuse to vote for HER again. Between the two of them they sure took the shine off female "liberal" Democratic Senators as a category!

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A Senator can always talk their way around those voters who can't remember. Dr. Fiona Hill is a little different. She is responsible for the words that come out of her mouth, which is very unlike the typical Senator who has smoothly hoodwinked the majority of dimwitted voters for years. If the majority of voters weren't dimwits who never vote in primary elections, we'd have a very different kind of Senator.- SECOND
How is Fiona Hill different? She bamboozled the liberals who listened to her and she's got the media covering her backside. For example, her dad was a union coal miner, and in those days the unions were pretty pro-socialist. And nobody will point out that her family fought on the same side as Russia in WWII. This aocryphal dad of hers, who is safely dead and can't be questioned, may have had a greater emotional connection to Russia than the USA. But all we know is what she said, and the media fawned all over her instead of challenging her testimony and pointing out that she saw nothing, heard nothing, and did nothing related to Ukraingate, and all she transmitted was heresay. And look at what happened as a result of the M%M putting her on a pedestal: SHINY thinks she's Einstein and Joan d'Arc all rolled into one.

On top of that, even if she lied her ass off, where is the accountability for her perfidy? Is she going to get voted out of office? NOPE! She'll just go merrily along her career, from government to think tank back to goverment, spewing bullshit as she goes. She would be a great example of a Junior Member of the Deep State: an unelected, unaccountable, media-protected part of "the intelligence community".

"safely dead" - seriously, are you dreamtrove's sock puppet?

Let's do some basic Logic:

1. SIGGY hates anyone who slags on Russia
2. SIGGY hates anyone who is smarter than her
3. SIGGY especially hates any woman who gets more attention than her

and so in summation...

SIGGY really, really, REALLY hates Dr. Fiona Hill because she slagged on Russia, is observably smarter than SIGGY, and is getting more attention than SIGGY ever will.

And don't you think for a second that your "friends" on this board don't know these things about you as well.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, December 1, 2019 3:12 AM

Meh...

Why bother arguing about any of this. Trump isn't going to be removed from office and he's going to be re-elected in 2020.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SIGNYM

Sunday, December 1, 2019 3:55 AM

GSTRING can always be counted on to speak "for" me and put words to me that I never posted and

TWITCHY can always be counted on to accuse people of what she's doing in that very same post (like accusing people of being "racist" or "fascist" while being racist or fascist) and threatening to kill people

It's nice to know there are some things you can always count on

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

I'd nuke a BILLION PEOPLE if it would save the other 7 billion from living under Putin. Hell, I might go all the way to the last 100 people on Earth to keep this planet from being under fascist rule.- WISHIMAY

SECOND

Sunday, December 1, 2019 4:27 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

SECOND, you're making my case for me.

So given this fine explanation of Feinstein's (a) gullibility or (b) cowardice or (c) duplicity, why should I look to Congress to tell me what's real and what isn't? Do I really give a rat's ass what the Senate "Intelligence" Committee said about Russia and the 2016 election? Because they seem to be either spectacularly misinformed by our "intelligence community" hivemind or spectacularly willing to bend over and promulgate a falsehood. That wouldn't be the first, second, or even the dozenth time they did that. I don't know what world they live in, but it isn't the real one. - SIGNY

I'm making a slightly different one: Senators act irresponsibly because voters, at least the majority, can't remember accurately what the Senator did. - SECOND
Well, I remember what Feinstein did which is why I refused to ever vote for her again. I also remember what Kamala Harris did, which is why I refuse to vote for HER again. Between the two of them they sure took the shine off female "liberal" Democratic Senators as a category!

Quote:
A Senator can always talk their way around those voters who can't remember. Dr. Fiona Hill is a little different. She is responsible for the words that come out of her mouth, which is very unlike the typical Senator who has smoothly hoodwinked the majority of dimwitted voters for years. If the majority of voters weren't dimwits who never vote in primary elections, we'd have a very different kind of Senator.- SECOND
How is Fiona Hill different? She bamboozled the liberals who listened to her and she's got the media covering her backside. For example, her dad was a union coal miner, and in those days the unions were pretty pro-socialist. And nobody will point out that her family fought on the same side as Russia in WWII. This aocryphal dad of hers, who is safely dead and can't be questioned, may have had a greater emotional connection to Russia than the USA. But all we know is what she said, and the media fawned all over her instead of challenging her testimony and pointing out that she saw nothing, heard nothing, and did nothing related to Ukraingate, and all she transmitted was heresay. And look at what happened as a result of the M%M putting her on a pedestal: SHINY thinks she's Einstein and Joan d'Arc all rolled into one.

On top of that, even if she lied her ass off, where is the accountability for her perfidy? Is she going to get voted out of office? NOPE! She'll just go merrily along her career, from government to think tank back to goverment, spewing bullshit as she goes. She would be a great example of a Junior Member of the Deep State: an unelected, unaccountable, media-protected part of "the intelligence community".

Signym, you called Dr. Fiona Hill a great example of a Junior Member of the Deep State: an unelected, unaccountable, media-protected part of "the intelligence community". Lets look at what happens to an elected, accountable, media-unprotected Senator. I've got two examples that will shine a light on why Senator Dianne Feinstein voted as she did on the Iraq War.

Example 1: Senator George McGovern ran on a platform that advocated withdrawal from the Vietnam War in exchange for the return of American prisoners of war and amnesty for draft evaders who had left the country. McGovern's platform also included an across-the-board 37-percent reduction in defense spending over three years. Whatever happened to George? This:

In the general election on November 7, 1972, the McGovern–Shriver ticket suffered a 61 percent to 37 percent defeat to Nixon – at the time, the second biggest landslide in American history, with an Electoral College total of 520 to 17. Over the nation as a whole he carried a mere 135 counties. At just over four percent of the nation's counties, McGovern's county wins remain the fewest by almost a factor

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