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Dr. Fiona Hill

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Friday, November 29, 2019 8:28 PM

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Originally posted by THG:
Is Jack quoting CNBC and suggesting what they've written is factual?



There's nuance in everything.

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How exactly does that work?


I've explained in great detail how it worked.

You can read all about it here: http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63401

I'm sure you already have, and do not have any legitimate response, and that's why you or CC have not replied to it and the only replies have been Wishy's personal attacks.

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Either all mainstream media is fake news, or only when they write stories that challenge his perceptions?


lol dude. They "reported" that Democrats are broke. That's the "truth" of the article and it ends there.

The framing is that they intend that you walk away not believing that this is a problem for Democrats. It is. It's a huge problem for Democrats.

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For the record. Jack posts mostly opinions because he can't site the media. This is due to the fact they, and the facts they report, exist in an alternate reality from Jacks. Still, he does quote the media when it suits him.


Sure thing, buddy. That's why time after time after time I'm proven right about things and you're proven wrong.

I've told you before, I'm a very patient man. But I can't wait until November of 2020 comes and goes and you get to watch a whole bunch of things I've been telling you come true with zero ability on the Legacy Media's part to spin your mind all around.

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Question, does Jack realize if his perceptions are based on lies or denials of the facts, that his perceptions are incorrect?


They're not incorrect when I'm right. All the time.


Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, November 29, 2019 8:55 PM

Oh...

Speaking about being right all the time.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2019/11/25/impeachment_tria
l_timing_puts_democrats_in_a_bind.html?utm_campaign=ora_player&utm_medium=ora-video-widget&utm_source=polls


Wasn't it like three weeks ago that I said the Impeachment reaching the senate would be a horrible thing for some of the Democratic front runners? Particularly Warren and Sanders?

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It would put Trump’s impeachment process squarely in the media spotlight in the run-up to the early voting states but also would ground several key 2020 contenders in Washington even though their presence as jurors will have little to no impact on the outcome. All signs right now point to the GOP-dominant Senate acquitting President Trump.

Republican Sen. John Cornyn, who faces his own reelection fight this year, is practically licking his chops at the thought of Elizabeth Warren, Amy Klobuchar, Cory Booker and Kamala Harris, along with independent Bernie Sanders, sidelined from the campaign trail in the weeks leading up to the Iowa caucuses on Feb. 3 and the New Hampshire primary on Feb. 11.

South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg is already leading the pack in Iowa, and he and Joe Biden and are nipping at Warren’s heels in New Hampshire.

Democrats, Cornyn told reporters late last week, are already “squandering” their opportunity to focus on the issues voters care about most with their march toward impeachment.






What the article fails to capitalize on here, however, is the Buttigieg effect. In fact, other than what I quoted above, they fail to even make another mention of him in the entire article.

I'm assuming that is because this was written by a somewhat right-leaning "news" source, and they don't want to draw any more attention to another FACT that I brought up around 6 months or so ago.

Buttigieg was then, and still is, the only person on those debate stages that has a legitimate shot against Trump in the General.

If Warren and Sanders are sidelined and lose a month or two of being on the campaign trail all the way up to and during the beginning of the Primary voting beginning, and a Senate trial will surely be putting current leader Biden's name all over the news throughout, this impeachment farce may very well end up being the best thing to happen to Democrats and their chances against Trump as a happy little accident by inadvertently making Buttigieg the one who comes out on top.





Meanwhile... without the impeachment even yet having an effect, Buttigieg has become a viable contender on his own merits for the first time since the debates have started. You'll rarely find a nationwide or a state poll that doesn't now have him in the double digits. Some of them quite comfortably in the double digits now and an even rarer few state polls that show he's actually the leader now.


Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, November 29, 2019 10:28 PM


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Do you mean the video that you posted?

THAT WASN'T TESTIMONY. It was an opening statement.
Yes, I watched it. Ten minutes of her telling us what an "expert"she is and then spewing bullshit. That was the part I couldn't stomache.- SIGNY

Careful there sweetheart, you'll bust a gasket. Did you take your meds?
I wouldn't want you to have to call 911 and rush you off to the ER. -SGG

Here's a sampling of "Dr" Fiona Hill's bullshit.

After having spent too much time creating a heartwarming but apocryphal familial "connection" to the USA and spending some time sucking up the Congress (I've read a lot of CVs and interviewed hundreds of people and I recognize bs when I hear it) she then goes on to tell us what an "expert" she is.

How do we know whether her "expertise" is worth anything? Has she made predictions that came true? Guided policy in a wise way that forwarded American interests? Made any foreign policy breakthroughs?

All I know of her statement is that she thinks she's an expert, she went to the Soviet Union once, and that she's fully embedded in the deep state (which btw is non-partisan).

But her statements contradict her so-called expertise. She's fully on-board with the idea that Russia "successfully" interfered in the 2016 election - for which there is little evidence - and that calls into question her objectivity. OF COURSE she backs what the "intelligence agencies" say because she's part of it.

But what really showed her manipulativeness was this statement

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"Russian goals are to ... neutralize a perceived US threat to Russian interests"


A "perceived" threat? Is she trying to insinuate that the USA has NOT been actively trying to destroy Russia since 2000? That sanctions and currency warfare and proxy battles and fifth-column support are just ... what? An imaginary campaign? That the USA is just an innocent bystander to Russian paranoia?

Jimminy-crimminy. As a so-called Russian policy "expert", if she truly believes that then she's a lunatic and not fit to advise anyone on anything. And if she doesn't believe that then she just told a big fat juicy whopper, and isn't fit to testify. After that, I just shit-canned everything she had to say.

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And don't be such a cunt, you know perfectly well I meant her on-air testimony- SGG
No, I didn't. YOU tend to use words loosely and inaccurately, so I sometimes need to confirm what you're saying.

No, I didn't watch her testimony, I scanned thru a transcript. Everything that she had to say about the matter at-hand ... and eliminating all the bloviating ... was that someone told her something. Like all of the other witnesses, she didn't see or hear or do anything directly. It's called heresay and she would never be allowed to testify in a court of law. But she can blab all she wants in front of Congress.

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I waited nine hours for "anyone" to respond, and several posts had gone by without "anyone" responding.- SIGNY

Really!? did you time it with an official Guinness World Record Holder watch?
Of course, if you never respond, does that count? - SGG

Jeezus, "SHINY", did you not notice there is a "timestamp" on everyone's posts? It's set by the database behind this website, can't be manipulated by the users. All you have to do is subtract the time of my second post from the time of my first, and notice that there are posts in between the two to check what I said. Seems you're not skilled in separating fact from feeling, are ya?

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You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY

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Friday, November 29, 2019 11:16 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

But her statements contradict her so-called expertise. She's fully on-board with the idea that Russia "successfully" interfered in the 2016 election - for which there is little evidence - and that calls into question her objectivity. OF COURSE she backs what the "intelligence agencies" say because she's part of it.

She backs the Senate Intelligence Report On Russian Interference In The 2016 Election. It is the Senate reminding everybody at fff.net that Signym is lying/misleading/fooling them.
www.npr.org/2019/07/25/745351734/read-senate-intelligence-report-on-ru
ssian-interference-in-the-2016-election



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, November 29, 2019 11:36 PM

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But her statements contradict her so-called expertise. She's fully on-board with the idea that Russia "successfully" interfered in the 2016 election - for which there is little evidence - and that calls into question her objectivity. OF COURSE she backs what the "intelligence agencies" say because she's part of it. - SIGY

She backs the Senate Intelligence Report On Russian Interference In The 2016 Election. It is the Senate reminding everybody at fff.net that Signym is lying/misleading/fooling them.
www.npr.org/2019/07/25/745351734/read-senate-intelligence-report-on-ru
ssian-interference-in-the-2016-election

Oh yeah, the same Senate "Intelligence" Committee that told us that Saddam had WMD.
Right.

And then there was her statement about the "perceived" US threat to Russia. That was really the coup de grace that showed me how far she should be trusted.

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Saturday, November 30, 2019 12:05 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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But her statements contradict her so-called expertise. She's fully on-board with the idea that Russia "successfully" interfered in the 2016 election - for which there is little evidence - and that calls into question her objectivity. OF COURSE she backs what the "intelligence agencies" say because she's part of it. - SIGY

She backs the Senate Intelligence Report On Russian Interference In The 2016 Election. It is the Senate reminding everybody at fff.net that Signym is lying/misleading/fooling them.
www.npr.org/2019/07/25/745351734/read-senate-intelligence-report-on-ru
ssian-interference-in-the-2016-election

Oh yeah, the same Senate "Intelligence" Committee that told us that Saddam had WMD.
Right.

Wrong. Signym, you are misleading. Stop fooling us. Here is the Senate Intelligence Committee Report:

"Two Bipartisan Reports Detail Bush Administration Misstatements on Prewar Iraq Intelligence, and Inappropriate Intelligence Activities by Pentagon Policy Office"
www.intelligence.senate.gov/press/senate-intelligence-committee-unveil
s-final-phase-ii-reports-prewar-iraq-intelligence


“Before taking the country to war, this Administration owed it to the American people to give them a 100 percent accurate picture of the threat we faced. Unfortunately, our Committee has concluded that the Administration made significant claims that were not supported by the intelligence. In making the case for war, the Administration repeatedly presented intelligence as fact when in reality it was unsubstantiated, contradicted, or even non-existent. As a result, the American people were led to believe that the threat from Iraq was much greater than actually existed.”

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, November 30, 2019 1:04 AM

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I wrote to Diane Feinstein before authorization of use of force (Iraq), urging her to vote "no". I got back a smarmy form email saying that, well, as a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, she had information that I didn't have, and therefore her decisions were just way more intelligent than mine. What an ass. Feinstein, IMHO, has NEVER been a "liberal", "progressive", "lefist" or whatever you want to call it, in terms of "national security". Neither has Reid. And Pelosi is pretty 50-50.


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Saturday, November 30, 2019 1:25 AM

Signym, I see that Senator Dianne Feinstein, on the Intelligence Committee, became aware that Bush had been lying about everything on Iraq. She was furious in the polite way of Senators: "We are going to be paying the costs of this war for decades. Yet this President has asked for more time. Waiting another 2 months will not change anything. It will be more of the same. As has been said on this floor tonight a myriad of times, but I must echo it: The President shows no inclination to listen to a majority of the Senate, to the American people or to the House of Representatives. He has provided no exit strategy, no plan to begin redeploying our troops. Come September, there is no reason to believe anything will have changed. Why wait to act?"

If I was Senator Feinstein, I'd have clearly stated that Bush is a lying sack of shit and demanded he be impeached for misleading the Senate about WMDs in Iraq. That's why I could not be in politics. Feinstein knows Bush is a liar, but she was far more restrained, not mentioning Bush had fooled her.

More at www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/speeches?ID=D9E24BBC-FA51-4E
99-B869-21FDBA433445


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, November 30, 2019 1:40 AM

Meh...

Whatever.

Impeachment isn't going to happen.

What else have you got?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, November 30, 2019 2:07 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Meh...

Whatever.

Impeachment isn't going to happen.

What else have you got?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

In the Iraq War, once it had degenerated into a flaming fiasco, there wasn't enough votes from GOP Senators to end the damn thing. Nothing Trump has done is as stupid as Bush's Iraq, so there is not enough GOP votes to end him, either: "There doesn't appear to be the 60 votes needed to bring the debate to a close, and there still are not the 67 votes needed to overcome a Presidential veto." -- Senator Feinstein on Iraq
www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/speeches?ID=D9E24BBC-FA51-4E
99-B869-21FDBA433445


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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