Ford vs. Ferrari

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UPDATED: Friday, November 29, 2019 13:56
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SHINYGOODGUY

Friday, November 22, 2019 3:21 PM

Exactly Six. Exactly my point, but I, for some inexplicable reason, overreacted. I lost sight of my principles regarding the cinema, and for that I apologize to the both of you. Rappy, that goes for you too.

I'm a staunch believer that each person has a right to do as they please and not fall prey to bullies and malcontents when it comes to movie going and the like. But yes...

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Don't let anybody tell you what you can or cannot or should or should not see.

SGG

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Man... you go right on with your bad self.

Don't let anybody tell you what you can or cannot or should or should not see.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

AURAPTOR

Friday, November 22, 2019 5:55 PM

I've come to the point where I view people's opinions and even trailers are unreliable in what is shown on the big screen. My general approach to seeing a movie is simple.

Here's a story, and this is how we've chosen to tell it to you.

Now, you can say stuff like " But I don't like movies about car racing, or running drugs across the border, or 350 ft tall CG monsters fighting in the middle of major cities. "

It's almost never JUST about those things, but how those stories are told, and what goes on in between the ' good ' parts.

For me, buying a ticket is essentially me giving the movie a chance to impress me. I've liked movies I didn't think I would want to see and I've hated movies I eagerly looked forward to watching.

For example, I like the group Queen, well enough. Even saw them in concert once. And I like the actor who plays Freddie Mercury, Rami Malek. But to pay $ and sit in a theatre to watch a 2 hour movie about him or the group? Not gonna do it. I'll watch when it comes on the small screen, but that's not what I pay for when I go to watch a movie.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, November 22, 2019 6:06 PM

No worries, bud.

I've always said that I like ya, despite our differences, and your post here is another example why. I might give you the shit here or there, but that's just the way I roll. I know you do too, so I don't let it get to me when we're doing it.

I'm glad we can have these "come together" moments every once in a while to right the ship.

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Exactly Six. Exactly my point, but I, for some inexplicable reason, overreacted. I lost sight of my principles regarding the cinema, and for that I apologize to the both of you. Rappy, that goes for you too.

I'm a staunch believer that each person has a right to do as they please and not fall prey to bullies and malcontents when it comes to movie going and the like. But yes...

Quote:
Don't let anybody tell you what you can or cannot or should or should not see.

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Man... you go right on with your bad self.

Don't let anybody tell you what you can or cannot or should or should not see.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, November 22, 2019 6:19 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

I've come to the point where I view people's opinions and even trailers are unreliable in what is shown on the big screen. My general approach to seeing a movie is simple.

Here's a story, and this is how we've chosen to tell it to you.

Now, you can say stuff like " But I don't like movies about car racing, or running drugs across the border, or 350 ft tall CG monsters fighting in the middle of major cities. "

It's almost never JUST about those things, but how those stories are told, and what goes on in between the ' good ' parts.

For me, buying a ticket is essentially me giving the movie a chance to impress me. I've liked movies I didn't think I would want to see and I've hated movies I eagerly looked forward to watching.

For example, I like the group Queen, well enough. Even saw them in concert once. And I like the actor who plays Freddie Mercury, Rami Malek. But to pay $ and sit in a theatre to watch a 2 hour movie about him or the group? Not gonna do it. I'll watch when it comes on the small screen, but that's not what I pay for when I go to watch a movie.

Yup. It's kind of my take on this movie. Apparenly I was wrong about it being about race car driving (although there is plenty of sequences that will appeal to the F&F crowd), but so what? It's going to be a fantasy movie that is so loosely based on real life events that it could be called a True Story only if it were a season of Fargo, about something that just doesn't interest me much. Damon's never done anything for me, and Bale himself isn't enough to get me to go see a movie. (I joked before about Days of Thunder, but it is possible that Cruise could have gotten me to see it... But even then, I haven't seen any of the last four Mission Impossible movies, so I doubt that very much).

But at the same time it's ludicrous to equate that to me being against progress.

I actually do find working on a car interesting, if it's my piece of shit car. I find a 10 or 20 minute video regarding fixing something on my specific car that was made by a youtuber with a cheap camera 1000 times more interesting than I do the ads for this flick.

If anybody really wants to learn some cool stuff about cars and engines, I'd recommend Project Farm on YouTube.

Have you ever wondered if an engine will run on Monster Energy or if you can lubricate it with bananas? Have you ever asked yourself if putting sugar in a gas tank really ruins an engine? He'll let you know.

And even though he's got 3/4 of a Million subscribers, he's replied to every single comment I've ever put on his videos. I have no idea where he finds the time.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

AURAPTOR

Saturday, November 23, 2019 1:55 AM

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Yeah, I guess I overstated my point. Truce!?

SGG

Truce works for me. Especially here on matters of cinema and sci-fi stuff.

As I've said a time or two before... I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, November 24, 2019 5:59 AM

LOL

Online cringe mafia is complaining that this movie is too white and too male and not gay enough.

This shit writes itself these days.

At this point, it wouldn't surprise me if the people who made the flick were paying people to write negative articles about it because it's not woke just to sell tickets because they've finally figured out that woke doesn't sell. Hate to break it to them, if that's the case, but just putting a bunch of white dudes in a movie isn't going to get me to see it either. Contrary to the shit the cringe mafia's been spewing for years, the reason people like me gave up on Hollywood isn't because movies weren't white enough and male enough and straight enough.

I can't wait until the ad revenue dries up and all of these pseudo-journalists are out of jobs and have to work overnights at retail jobs with me. I'll show them "muh patriarchy".

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SHINYGOODGUY

Sunday, November 24, 2019 10:43 AM

Shiny!

I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way
Roger Rabbit, I picked up on that...cool reference.

SGG

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Yeah, I guess I overstated my point. Truce!?

SGG

Truce works for me. Especially here on matters of cinema and sci-fi stuff.

As I've said a time or two before... I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way

SHINYGOODGUY

Sunday, November 24, 2019 11:20 AM

For the most part, I agree with your comment. My friend and I argued once about the quality of the trailers in recent years, they usually give away the best parts and have nothing left to show in the movie itself.

To me, trailers is an art form in and of itself. It takes a certain amount of skill to advertise a flick and NOT show all the best parts. But my friend and I came to a conclusion, or compromise, show a piece of the premise of the movie/film or a prologue of sorts. A good example is what Nolan did with the Dark Knight trailer, or at least, a part of their marketing strategy.

In theaters they showed a six minute clip of the opening sequence when the Joker was robbing the bank. I thought that was brilliant. He gave you a taste of what was in it, plus showed the character Joker without revealing too much,
and a bit of the theme of TDK. This is what my friend and I discussed and came to an understanding. A trailer doesn't, or better put, shouldn't give you all the best parts. But it should give you a taste. I gotta admit, I was excited to see the "Bat Cycle."

But, I agree, most trailers these days SUCKS ASS!

Choosing a movie/film, well, I too take the simple approach: the story, always the story. I sometimes follow a director, or a genre (like sci-fi, swashbuckling adventure, fantasy, sword and sorcery, etc.) although not always. Sometimes I wait until they come out on streaming or TV, and few times regret it (Cloud Atlas), but mainly I say to myself "self, do you want to see this on the big screen?" If I answer "yes" then I go see it.

It works for me. But I despise when an online critic, as such, badmouth a movie on hearsay and not on personal knowledge or viewing. That's not cool.
And, like I said, I've heard-tell of critics being paid by Disney to sabotage
the pre-release of a movie (for example: Alita Battle Angel). Plus Joker.
No need to say more on that subject, you guys know what I mean. I hate that.
But I've learned to go with my gut. Both proved to be better than the badmouth
previews.

Okay, so we all have our little picadillos. We all have our favs. This is what I'm saying, we all have our particular "cup 'o tea."

SGG

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

I've come to the point where I view people's opinions and even trailers are unreliable in what is shown on the big screen. My general approach to seeing a movie is simple.

Here's a story, and this is how we've chosen to tell it to you.

Now, you can say stuff like " But I don't like movies about car racing, or running drugs across the border, or 350 ft tall CG monsters fighting in the middle of major cities. "

It's almost never JUST about those things, but how those stories are told, and what goes on in between the ' good ' parts.

For me, buying a ticket is essentially me giving the movie a chance to impress me. I've liked movies I didn't think I would want to see and I've hated movies I eagerly looked forward to watching.

For example, I like the group Queen, well enough. Even saw them in concert once. And I like the actor who plays Freddie Mercury, Rami Malek. But to pay $ and sit in a theatre to watch a 2 hour movie about him or the group? Not gonna do it. I'll watch when it comes on the small screen, but that's not what I pay for when I go to watch a movie.

AURAPTOR

Sunday, November 24, 2019 8:18 PM

the trailer business can be tricky. I remember when Serenity trailer dropped, there was a song in it that doesn't appear in the movie. The fight scene at the Maidenhead. It really fit the scene, but didn't appear anywhere in the movie or the soundtrack.

Same thing w/ the movie Jarhead, which came out at the same time. Song in the trailer didn't make it to the soundtrack. Never saw the movie though.

Then there's Jurassic Park. A trailer scene had botanist Ellie Sadler, riding in a jeep and sticking her hand out while it was moving to grab a large leaf. Later on, she's telling Alan that this plant shouldn't be there, it's an extinct type of plant. That cut scene was removed from the trailer, because they didn't want kids pretending to be Ellie and sticking their arms out of moving cars to grab stuff. Probably a wise thing, given how some kids can be.

Now, Godzilla KOTM is a fine example. That first trailer came out in July, the previous year ? Showed fans far too much of the fight scenes, too many WOW moments, and unfortunately, the movie didn't do as well as projected. Still OK, but some say too much was revealed. So with Godzilla vs Kong, we've yet to see a trailer or even a teaser. A dated movie poster from over a year ago is all we've seen. ( I think Dec. 8th is the date many expect to see their first glimpse, in Brazil's Comicon )

There's also rumors it may be pushed back, from March to later 2020, but that's not been confirmed as of yet.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, November 25, 2019 12:35 AM

My first and still best example of a trailer being different from the movie was Spaced Invaders.

"Whoa! Who ordered the quarter-tonner? Does she come with fries?"

That was the early 90's, so I find it hard to believe that they removed it from the actual movie because of outrage. It's more likely that they realized that the movie wasn't funny and they needed to put something funny in the trailer to get people to watch it.

I guess second to that would be adding in the shot of the helicopter exploding in the iconic scene of the WH blowing up in Independence Day to the movie when too many people freaked out about it after seeing the original trailer.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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