Impeachment Investigation Is Underway, Judiciary Committee Says
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Impeachment witness provides firsthand account of hearing Trump demand ‘investigation’ of Bidens by Ukraine
David Holmes, an embassy staffer in Kyiv, testified that he overheard a July 26 phone call in which Trump pressed U.S. Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland about whether Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky would “do the investigation,” according to three people who have read his opening statement and spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe its contents.
“Ambassador Sondland replied that ‘he’s gonna do it,’ adding that President Zelensky will do ‘anything you ask him to,’?” Holmes said, according to these people.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/impeachment-witness-provides-f
irsthand-account-of-hearing-trump-demand-investigation-of-bidens-by-ukraine/ar-BBWOJ1m?ocid=spartanntp
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Awwwwwwwww. Too bad.
Try not to get Epstiened while you're in there buddy.
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Trump’s core impeachment defense suffers a double blow — including a self-inflicted one
The idea that President Trump truly cared about corruption in Ukraine was always far-fetched. The only two investigations he has pushed for were ones in which he had a clear personal interest, and Trump hasn’t shown a similar interest in corruption in many other countries that received U.S. aid — including even more corrupt ones. Yet it’s an argument that Trump’s defenders keep trotting out for his impeachment defense.
Instead, though, the call undermined one of Trump’s chief defenses. It was quickly noted that the transcript didn’t match a public readout of the call provided by the White House, which said Trump told Zelensky that he was committed to working together to “strengthen democracy, increase prosperity, and root out corruption.” There is no mention of any of that on the call.
I then took the opportunity to ask Ambassador Sondland for his candid impression of the President’s views on Ukraine. In particular, I asked Ambassador Sondland if it was true that the President did not “give a s — t about Ukraine.” Ambassador Sondland agreed that the President did not “give a s — t about Ukraine.” I asked why not, and Ambassador Sondland stated that the President only cares about “big stuff.” I noted that there was “big stuff” going on in Ukraine, like a war with Russia, and Ambassador Sondland replied that he meant “big stuff” that benefits the President, like the “Biden investigation” that Mr. Giuliani was pushing. The conversation then moved on to other topics
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nt-defense-suffers-a-double-blow-—-including-a-self-inflicted-one/ar-BBWRyBa?ocid=spartandhp
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Pence aide testified that Trump’s efforts to pressure Ukraine were 'inappropriate'
A top national security aide to Vice President Mike Pence told House impeachment investigators that President Donald Trump’s efforts to pressure Ukraine to investigate his political opponents were “unusual and inappropriate,” and “shed some light on possible other motivations” for the president’s order to freeze military aid to the U.S. ally.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/pence-aide-testified-that-trum
ps-efforts-to-pressure-ukraine-were-inappropriate/ar-BBWRWIA?ocid=spartandhp
There is no defense for Trump. Only the continued destruction of our Democratic institutions. This time it's the constitution.
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Pence aide testified that Trump’s efforts to pressure Ukraine were 'inappropriate'
A top national security aide to Vice President Mike Pence told House impeachment investigators that President Donald Trump’s efforts to pressure Ukraine to investigate his political opponents were “unusual and inappropriate,” and “shed some light on possible other motivations” for the president’s order to freeze military aid to the U.S. ally.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/pence-aide-testified-that-trum
ps-efforts-to-pressure-ukraine-were-inappropriate/ar-BBWRWIA?ocid=spartandhp
There is no defense for Trump. Only the continued destruction of our Democratic institutions. This time it's the constitution.
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This ought to be good. Explain how it's the constitution this time.
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The Constitution Says ‘Bribery’ Is Impeachable. What Does That Mean?
The Founders had a broader conception of bribery than what’s in the criminal code. Their understanding was derived from English law, under which bribery was understood as an officeholder’s abuse of the power of an office to obtain a private benefit rather than for the public interest. This definition not only encompasses Trump’s conduct—it practically defines it.
The memorandum released by the White House describing that call—which is consistent with the accounts of the whistleblower complaint that first brought this scandal to light—reads like a classic shakedown.
https://www.lawfareblog.com/constitution-says-bribery-impeachable-what
-does-mean
If in the face of overwhelming evidence the senate fails to convict, then not only have they denied the constitution its due, but changed our concept of fair play in this country forever.
We would now have to allow for all future presidents to bribe, blackmail and extort the rest of the world leaders for personal gain further damaging our national security.
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Abuse of power, not criminality, key to Trump impeachment
(Reuters) - Democratic lawmakers have a strong case for impeaching U.S. President Donald Trump if they can prove he abused his power when he asked Ukraine’s president to “look into” an American political rival, several legal experts said.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-whistleblower-legal-idUSK
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Article 11-Section 4
The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleii
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Originally posted by THG:
The Constitution Says ‘Bribery’ Is Impeachable. What Does That Mean?
The Founders had a broader conception of bribery than what’s in the criminal code. Their understanding was derived from English law, under which bribery was understood as an officeholder’s abuse of the power of an office to obtain a private benefit rather than for the public interest. This definition not only encompasses Trump’s conduct—it practically defines it.
The memorandum released by the White House describing that call—which is consistent with the accounts of the whistleblower complaint that first brought this scandal to light—reads like a classic shakedown.
https://www.lawfareblog.com/constitution-says-bribery-impeachable-what
-does-mean
If in the face of overwhelming evidence the senate fails to convict, then not only have they denied the constitution its due, but changed our concept of fair play in this country forever.
We would now have to allow for all future presidents to bribe, blackmail and extort the rest of the world leaders for personal gain further damaging our national security.
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LOL, you can do better than that brother.
If they can impeach and remove a sitting president for a transcript of a phone call with a foreign nation that was taken wildly out of context, then expect absolutely zero meddling in foreign affairs for perpetuity. (I'm actually fully on board with that, personally, but this is exactly why this particular issue isn't going to get you anywhere).
We bribe foreign leaders with money from our printing presses every single day.
So much so, that Joe Biden very candidly was bragging about it very candidly in the open. That Biden footage wasn't from a closed door meeting.
Let's not even begin to discuss how you're taking a single sentence of the Constitution out of context in your desperate reach here.
They're talking about bribing the rich, bribing public officials, and other such national forms of bribery there, kiddo.
If we were going to be real, most presidents could be impeached and removed by bribing voters with freebies.
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