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Tuesday, November 12, 2019 9:54 PM

Bush signs $1.3 trillion tax cut bill / $300-$600 rebate checks start going out next month
June 8, 2001

President Bush fulfilled a major promise of his campaign for president yesterday, signing into law the most sweeping tax cut in two decades, which he called "the first major achievement of a new era."

Bush signed the $1.35 trillion tax cut -- which includes soon-to-be-mailed rebate checks of up to $600 -- amid the kind of presidential pomp he usually disdains: a formal ceremony in the East Room, with a Marine band playing "Hail to the Chief."
www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Bush-signs-1-3-trillion-tax-cut-bill-3
00-600-2913184.php


Federal Surplus or Deficit [-] as Percent of Gross Domestic Product
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=pugG


Donald Trump Promised to Eliminate the Deficit in 8 Years. So Far, He Has Increased it by 68%
www.newsweek.com/trump-deficit-debt-cbo-data-obama-1463802

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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THG
Tuesday, November 12, 2019 10:35 PM

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Tuesday, November 12, 2019 11:12 PM

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Trump has been down this road before with China: Did the US Just Abandon Tibet? A brief history of U.S. Tibet policy — and how Trump just turned everything upside down.
https://thediplomat.com/2017/06/did-the-us-just-abandon-tibet/

Tibet? Or Hong Kong? None of 'em mean a thing to Trump.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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THG
Wednesday, November 13, 2019 12:06 AM

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Trump has been down this road before with China: Did the US Just Abandon Tibet? A brief history of U.S. Tibet policy — and how Trump just turned everything upside down.
https://thediplomat.com/2017/06/did-the-us-just-abandon-tibet/

Tibet? Or Hong Kong? None of 'em mean a thing to Trump.




Bolton is beginning to tease what's going to be in his book. It's about Trump being completely over his head when it comes to foreign policy.
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Wednesday, November 13, 2019 1:01 AM

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Trump has been down this road before with China: Did the US Just Abandon Tibet? A brief history of U.S. Tibet policy — and how Trump just turned everything upside down.
https://thediplomat.com/2017/06/did-the-us-just-abandon-tibet/

Tibet? Or Hong Kong? None of 'em mean a thing to Trump.




Bolton is beginning to tease what's going to be in his book. It's about Trump being completely over his head when it comes to foreign policy.
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Deep state describes dedicated, educated professionals.





hmmmmmmmmmmmm...

Wondering what's going to be in that book. Could it be what makes you guys all turn into huge Bolton fans like I predicted would happen?

Time will tell...

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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THG
Wednesday, November 13, 2019 1:19 AM

Time already told. It's about the facts and only the facts. Bolton is about as Republican as it gets.

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Wednesday, November 13, 2019 3:47 AM

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Time will tell...

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Bolton is already talking:

Former national security adviser John Bolton derided President Donald Trump’s daughter and son-in-law during a private speech last week and suggested his former boss’ approach to U.S. policy on Turkey is motivated by personal or financial interests, several people who were present for the remarks told NBC News.

According to six people who were there, Bolton also questioned the merits of Trump applying his business acumen to foreign policy, saying such issues can’t be approached like the win-or-lose edict that drives real estate deals: When one deal doesn’t work, you move on to the next.

The description was part of a broader portrait Bolton outlined of a president who lacks an understanding of the interconnected nature of relationships in foreign policy and the need for consistency, these people said.
www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/private-speech-bolton-suggests-s
ome-trump-s-foreign-policy-decisions-n1080651


Bolton used his appearance last Wednesday at Morgan Stanley’s global investment event in Miami to mock Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner and suggest Trump’s approach to Turkey is “motivated by personal or financial interests,” according to a number of people who were present for the remarks. While the details were scant, one assumes that Bolton has a low opinion of Trump’s son-in-law inserting himself in matters of foreign policy despite having literally no relevant experience whatsoever. When it comes to Ivanka, perhaps he shared his take on the first daughter’s endorsement of former national security council adviser turned felon Mike Flynn, or the manner in which she and her husband obtained their top security security clearances. As for Trump, who has property in Turkey, putting his own interests above those of national security, well, it’s not that hard to believe a guy whose only principle in life is “how does this benefit me?” would bring such an outlook to the Oval Office.
www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/11/john-bolton-gives-trump-a-taste-of-the
-impeachment-pain-to-come


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, November 13, 2019 3:51 AM

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Time already told. It's about the facts and only the facts. Bolton is about as Republican NEO-CON as it gets.



A billion flies eat shit.

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Wednesday, November 13, 2019 5:43 PM

Economists’ instinctive view on trade, that it should be good for everyone, is not correct

Economists, on the whole, favor open immigration and free trade policies, which they regard as catalysts for economic growth. But as polling shows, many people in the U.S. and Europe disagree. They are wary of losing jobs and earning power where there is immigration, and they believe free trade pushes industry abroad. So who’s right, the economists, or the people?

Well, according to MIT’s newest Nobel Prize laureates, economists Esther Duflo and Abhijit Banerjee, each side gets one count right and one wrong.

“If you look at the best evidence, it tells us that economists’ view of migration is more correct,” Duflo says. “It is not a big problem to let more migrants in.” Study after study shows that increased immigration does not affect wages, for instance. And the presence of migrants tends to let more women who are longtime residents enter the work force.

Okay, what about trade?

“On trade it is the opposite,” Duflo says. “The evidence shows that people’s instinctive view of trade, that it does hurt them, has a lot that is true about it, and economists’ instinctive view on trade, that it should be good for everyone, is not correct.”

Although free trade boosts overall growth, it also produces concentrated pockets of job losses. And while economic theory has long held that displaced workers will move to new job opportunities, this rarely happens. In countries that started trading with China during the last two decades, for example, the working-age population has not decreased in the areas most hard-hit by imports from China.

What the mistaken ideas about both immigration and trade ignore, Banerjee says, is the “stickiness” of real life. Most people do not want to uproot themselves.

“One thing that ties those two issues together is the idea of stickiness,” Banerjee says. “Ordinary people like to stay in place. Economists think trade should be fine because, yes, it could hurt some people, but people are going to move to other jobs in other places. But people are very reluctant to do that. They don’t want to go to a different sector and a different place and a different life.”

More at http://news.mit.edu/2019/good-economics-hard-times-1112

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, November 13, 2019 11:49 PM

Economists who view people as 'rational actors', who ONLY act in the economic sphere, are so quaint.

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