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Saturday, November 9, 2019 11:52 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
What's funny about it?

He's not a whistleblower, no matter what the Legacy Media wants you to think.

This was all premeditated partisan hackery, and the details of it all are starting to unravel.



Meanwhile, true whistleblowers and heroes like Assange and Snowden get Democrats trying their damnedest to ruin their lives for their service.


Democrats are absolute shit.

Quote:

Originally posted by THG:


Trump, our government and the media disagree with you. They all describe this person as a whistleblower. Oops...


Here's what the office of legal council has to say about that.
https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/ukraine-cleari
nghouse-olc-letter-to-icig-and-cigie-.2019.10.25.pdf




A billion flies eat shit.

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THG
Sunday, November 10, 2019 1:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:Another rube, country bumpkin expressing quaint perceptions even though the facts say otherwise.

tick tock rube





All the name calling and insults won't save you or make your case for you.

The facts are on my side.

I understand it makes you angry, because the obvious implication is that Trump ( in this case ) continues to be President and all that entails, but that's simply too bad.

Hillary lost.

Get over it.

Trump is your President now.

Accept it. Acknowledge it. Move on.



You are a rube because you’re stuck on Hillary. Nothing I’m posting myself or the others here that take issue with Trump are posting has anything to do with Hillary. It’s been that way for a long time now. That’s because she has nothing to do with what’s going on with Trump. Nothing at all. This tells me you are incapable of understanding anything that isn’t pro what you want. It also makes you a rube.

tick tock

T


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THG
Sunday, November 10, 2019 1:51 AM

Kiki, all flies eat shit. I was waiting for you to figure that out yourself. Apparently you are incapable of doing so.

T


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Sunday, November 10, 2019 1:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Kiki, all flies eat shit. I was waiting for you to figure that out yourself. Apparently you are incapable of doing so.



HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ...


Thanks for the laugh!!! It's so funny when you're/your so pompously wrong! That's especially true because a really short trip to google could have told you what you needed to know. But you 'figured' you knew something. And like a lot of your 'knowledge', it was only a false belief. Pompously asserted.



So, no, ALL flies do NOT eat shit!


But since your/you're thinking seems to be very limited, let me explain the phrase to you. A billion flies eat shit. It means that something isn't true JUST BECAUSE a lot of people say-so.

It's a shorter way of illustrating the logical fallacy argumentum ad populum.

Argumentum ad populum. ... In argumentation theory, an argumentum ad populum (Latin for "argument to the people") is a fallacious argument that concludes that a proposition must be true because many or most people believe it, often concisely encapsulated as: "If many believe so, it is so."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

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Tuesday, November 12, 2019 5:04 AM



Assange in Court 841
22 Oct, 2019 in Uncategorized by craig

UPDATE I have received scores of requests to republish and/or translate this article. It is absolutely free to use and reproduce and I should be delighted if everybody does; the world should know what is being done to Julian. So far, over 200,000 people have read it on this blogsite alone and it has already been reproduced on myriad other sites, some with much bigger readerships than my own. I have seen translations into German, Spanish and French and at least extracts in Catalan and Turkish. I only ask that you reproduce it complete or, if edits are made, plainly indicate them. Many thanks.

BEGINS

I was deeply shaken while witnessing yesterday’s events in Westminster Magistrates Court. Every decision was railroaded through over the scarcely heard arguments and objections of Assange’s legal team, by a magistrate who barely pretended to be listening.

Before I get on to the blatant lack of fair process, the first thing I must note was Julian’s condition. I was badly shocked by just how much weight my friend has lost, by the speed his hair has receded and by the appearance of premature and vastly accelerated ageing. He has a pronounced limp I have never seen before. Since his arrest he has lost over 15 kg in weight.

But his physical appearance was not as shocking as his mental deterioration. When asked to give his name and date of birth, he struggled visibly over several seconds to recall both. I will come to the important content of his statement at the end of proceedings in due course, but his difficulty in making it was very evident; it was a real struggle for him to articulate the words and focus his train of thought.

Until yesterday I had always been quietly sceptical of those who claimed that Julian’s treatment amounted to torture – even of Nils Melzer, the UN Special Rapporteur on Torture – and sceptical of those who suggested he may be subject to debilitating drug treatments. But having attended the trials in Uzbekistan of several victims of extreme torture, and having worked with survivors from Sierra Leone and elsewhere, I can tell you that yesterday changed my mind entirely and Julian exhibited exactly the symptoms of a torture victim brought blinking into the light, particularly in terms of disorientation, confusion, and the real struggle to assert free will through the fog of learned helplessness.

I had been even more sceptical of those who claimed, as a senior member of his legal team did to me on Sunday night, that they were worried that Julian might not live to the end of the extradition process. I now find myself not only believing it, but haunted by the thought. Everybody in that court yesterday saw that one of the greatest journalists and most important dissidents of our times is being tortured to death by the state, before our eyes. To see my friend, the most articulate man, the fastest thinker, I have ever known, reduced to that shambling and incoherent wreck, was unbearable. Yet the agents of the state, particularly the callous magistrate Vanessa Baraitser, were not just prepared but eager to be a part of this bloodsport. She actually told him that if he were incapable of following proceedings, then his lawyers could explain what had happened to him later. The question of why a man who, by the very charges against him, was acknowledged to be highly intelligent and competent, had been reduced by the state to somebody incapable of following court proceedings, gave her not a millisecond of concern.

The charge against Julian is very specific; conspiring with Chelsea Manning to publish the Iraq War logs, the Afghanistan war logs and the State Department cables. The charges are nothing to do with Sweden, nothing to do with sex, and nothing to do with the 2016 US election; a simple clarification the mainstream media appears incapable of understanding.

The purpose of yesterday’s hearing was case management; to determine the timetable for the extradition proceedings. T

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THG
Tuesday, November 12, 2019 5:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Kiki, all flies eat shit. I was waiting for you to figure that out yourself. Apparently you are incapable of doing so.



HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ...


Thanks for the laugh!!! It's so funny when you're/your so pompously wrong! That's especially true because a really short trip to google could have told you what you needed to know. But you 'figured' you knew something. And like a lot of your 'knowledge', it was only a false belief. Pompously asserted.



So, no, ALL flies do NOT eat shit!


But since your/you're thinking seems to be very limited, let me explain the phrase to you. A billion flies eat shit. It means that something isn't true JUST BECAUSE a lot of people say-so.

It's a shorter way of illustrating the logical fallacy argumentum ad populum.

Argumentum ad populum. ... In argumentation theory, an argumentum ad populum (Latin for "argument to the people") is a fallacious argument that concludes that a proposition must be true because many or most people believe it, often concisely encapsulated as: "If many believe so, it is so."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum]



Watch out, kiki learned a new word. As usual she thinks it justifies her aversion to the facts; it doesn't. Facts are facts kiki and there's no way around it.

Most people think the mainstream media is a good source of information. They are correct. I believe Trump is a parasite. I am correct as well.

As for some flies existing that don’t eat shit, prove it. As usual you post stuff in lieu of the facts. Links please...

There are elements in urine that drive flies and other pests away but nothing in shit.

T


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Tuesday, November 12, 2019 5:46 AM

OK - you want me to prove you wrong. And, you are. Not all flies eat shit. And here are the facts:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coprophagia
Two feces-eating insects are certain species of fly and the dung beetle.

https://www.terminix.com/blog/education/what-do-flies-eat-faqs/
Tachnid flies also feed on plant nectar as adults, but in their larval stage, they dine on other insects. Hessian flies eat grass, while bot flies eat animal tissue. Contrary to popular belief, fruit flies don't actually eat fruit. Instead, they eat the yeast cells that grow on fruit, particularly rotting fruit.

https://www.jcehrlich.com/flies/what-do-flies-eat/
What do fruit flies eat?

Fruit Flies are attracted to fermented food and liquid sources, which is why they are so common in homes and the food industry. Fruit flies search for foods such as:

Liquids: beer, wine, cider, vinegar
Fruits such as bananas, grapes, peaches, pineapples, tomatoes, mustard pickles, potatoes, onions, etc.
Sugary substances, like candy

What do blow flies eat?

Blow/bottle flies are fairly large flies with metallic blue, green, bronze or black sheen. They are infamously known for burrowing themselves into their food, which is where they develop. They are usually the first insects to arrive after an animal dies. These flies prefer:

Fresh or decaying meat
Animal carcasses



A billion flies eat shit.

But not ALL flies eat shit.

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Tuesday, November 12, 2019 5:47 AM

In the meantime, while I appreciate the bump, I hope to keep the thread ON TOPIC.


Assange in Court 841
22 Oct, 2019 in Uncategorized by craig

UPDATE I have received scores of requests to republish and/or translate this article. It is absolutely free to use and reproduce and I should be delighted if everybody does; the world should know what is being done to Julian. So far, over 200,000 people have read it on this blogsite alone and it has already been reproduced on myriad other sites, some with much bigger readerships than my own. I have seen translations into German, Spanish and French and at least extracts in Catalan and Turkish. I only ask that you reproduce it complete or, if edits are made, plainly indicate them. Many thanks.

BEGINS

I was deeply shaken while witnessing yesterday’s events in Westminster Magistrates Court. Every decision was railroaded through over the scarcely heard arguments and objections of Assange’s legal team, by a magistrate who barely pretended to be listening.

Before I get on to the blatant lack of fair process, the first thing I must note was Julian’s condition. I was badly shocked by just how much weight my friend has lost, by the speed his hair has receded and by the appearance of premature and vastly accelerated ageing. He has a pronounced limp I have never seen before. Since his arrest he has lost over 15 kg in weight.

But his physical appearance was not as shocking as his mental deterioration. When asked to give his name and date of birth, he struggled visibly over several seconds to recall both. I will come to the important content of his statement at the end of proceedings in due course, but his difficulty in making it was very evident; it was a real struggle for him to articulate the words and focus his train of thought.

Until yesterday I had always been quietly sceptical of those who claimed that Julian’s treatment amounted to torture – even of Nils Melzer, the UN Special Rapporteur on Torture – and sceptical of those who suggested he may be subject to debilitating drug treatments. But having attended the trials in Uzbekistan of several victims of extreme torture, and having worked with survivors from Sierra Leone and elsewhere, I can tell you that yesterday changed my mind entirely and Julian exhibited exactly the symptoms of a torture victim brought blinking into the light, particularly in terms of disorientation, confusion, and the real struggle to assert free will through the fog of learned helplessness.

I had been even more sceptical of those who claimed, as a senior member of his legal team did to me on Sunday night, that they were worried that Julian might not live to the end of the extradition process. I now find myself not only believing it, but haunted by the thought. Everybody in that court yesterday saw that one of the greatest journalists and most important dissidents of our times is being tortured to death by the state, before our eyes. To see my friend, the most articulate man, the fastest thinker, I have ever known, reduced to that shambling and incoherent wreck, was unbearable. Yet the agents of the state, particularly the callous magistrate Vanessa Baraitser, were not just prepared but eager to be a part of this bloodsport. She actually told him that if he were incapable of following proceedings, then his lawyers could explain what had happened to him later. The question of why a man who, by the very charges against him, was acknowledged to be highly intelligent and competent, had been reduced by the state to somebody incapable of following court proceedings, gave her not a millisecond of concern.

The charge against Julian is very specific; conspiring with Chelsea Manning to publish the Iraq War logs, the Afghanistan war logs and the State Department cables. The charges are nothing to do with Sweden, nothing to do with sex, and nothing to do with the 2016 US election; a simple clarification the mainstream media appears incapable of understanding.

The purpose of yesterday’s hearing

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THG
Tuesday, November 12, 2019 5:57 AM

Kiki, none of your links suggests anything other than, based on what the flies you've listed eat, shit would be on the menu.

T


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Tuesday, November 12, 2019 6:21 AM



Did you not post that ALL flies eat shit? It says it right here, in your post ...

Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Kiki, all flies eat shit. I was waiting for you to figure that out yourself. Apparently you are incapable of doing so.



Do you not know what that means? It means that there are no exceptions. And yet, there ARE exceptions! Only CERTAIN flies eat shit!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coprophagia
Two feces-eating insects are certain species of fly and the dung beetle.




Or do you not understand what SHIT is? SHIT is not plant nectar. SHIT is not 'insects'. SHIT is not meat. SHIT is not grass. SHIT is not 'animal tissue'. SHIT is not yeast. SHIT is not beer, wine, cider, vinegar, fruits such as bananas, grapes, peaches, pineapples, tomatoes, mustard pickles, potatoes, onions, etc. or sugary substances, like candy. SHIT is also not fresh or decaying meat, or animal carcasses.

https://www.terminix.com/blog/education/what-do-flies-eat-faqs/
Tachnid flies also feed on plant nectar as adults, but in their larval stage, they dine on other insects. Hessian flies eat grass, while bot flies eat animal tissue. Contrary to popular belief, fruit flies don't actually eat fruit. Instead, they eat the yeast cells that grow on fruit, particularly rotting fruit.

https://www.jcehrlich.com/flies/what-do-flies-eat/
What do fruit flies eat?

Fruit Flies are attracted to fermented food and liquid sources, which is why they are so common in homes and the food industry. Fruit flies search for foods such as:

Liquids: beer, wine, cider, vinegar
Fruits such as bananas, grapes, peaches, pineapples, tomatoes, mustard pickles, potatoes, onions, etc.
Sugary substances, like candy


What do blow flies eat?

Blow/bottle flies are fairly large flies with metallic blue, green, bronze or black sheen. They are infamously known for burrowing themselves into their food, which is where they develop. They are usually the first insects to arrive after an animal dies. These flies prefer:

Fresh or decaying meat
Animal carcasses




A billion flies eat shit.

But not ALL flies eat shit.

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