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Impeachment Investigation Is Underway, Judiciary Committee Says

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THG
Sunday, November 10, 2019 10:55 PM

Wrong sig. Everything you post is wrong comrade. Not to worry though, I'm sure you're Putin's favorite.

And its dedicated to whom not hom. And its own not onw. And you spelled whistleblower whistelblower once. And its content of the phone call not he phone call. And its phone call revealed not reveled. And our in our agreement should be capitalized. It starts a new sentence.

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Monday, November 11, 2019 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
You STILL can't answer the question THUGGER? You know, it's an important question. Everyone says the reason why what Trump did with Zelensky was bad was because it jeopardized US national security.

So here is my question again, in gold ... just so you don't miss it: - explain to me EXACTLY how US national security is threatened by anything that happens in Ukraine.

Quote:

Originally posted by THG:


Encouraged a foreign nation to interfere with U.S. elections.

Opened up the President of the United States to blackmail.

Helps Russia, a top adversary and national security threat to the United States.
Stopped substantial military aid the U.S. Congress determined to be in America’s national interest from reaching its intended recipient (restored only after the scandal became public).

Ukraine is a buffer between Putin’s aggressive Russia and four NATO allies the U.S. is sworn to defend if attacked. If Russia takes over Ukraine due to an inability to defend themselves as a result of U.S. military aid not reaching them, the U.S. is more likely to either go to war, or have to invest substantially more in proactive defense. Russian troops just over the border from four more NATO members is dangerous.

Makes other countries less likely to take American promises of military aid seriously. Ukraine is vulnerable, in part, because the U.S. convinced them to give up their nuclear weapons, in exchange for assurance that we would help them defend themselves from Russia.

Weakening a vulnerable nation under attack makes the world less stable and makes it more likely the U.S. will suffer negative reverberations.

If Ukraine’s anti-Russia, anti-corruption leader loses political power because the United States undermined him, his replacement may be more Putin-friendly and expand Putin’s influence against U.S. interests.

Improperly using the highest national security secrecy systems to hide political secrets and misconduct weakens them.

Discourages other potential whistleblowers from reporting problems, making future national security vulnerabilities more likely.

Discourages dedicated American patriots from going into, or remaining in, public service (intelligence, military, law enforcement, politics, civil service, etc.) when the president is undermining their efforts, corrupting systems, cheating in elections, putting personal interests ahead of national interests, etc.

Allowing two straight U.S. elections to be undermined by foreign powers shows the U.S. to be weak and encourages future attacks.


https://www.outsidethebeltway.com/the-less-americans-know-about-ukrain
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The Less Americans Know About Ukraine, The More They Support Intervening There

Here's a map of Europe and western Russia, with the countries labeled.



I know that most people couldn't find Ukraine without those labels, even more, they probably couldn't find Europe.

But looking at this map, which countries do YOU see are on Ukraine's border that might reasonably be 'threatened'? Because I strain to see the Ukrainian-US border anywhere. In fact, there's 4,864 mi between Washington DC, and Kiev.

Even more, I find no US allies on Ukraine's border. I see Moldova, Hungary, Romania, Slovakia, Poland, and Belarus. They're NATO members, but not US allies.

EVEN IF - and I see no reason to imagine that would happen - Russia were to take over Ukraine, I fail to see how that could pose a security risk TO THE US.

So, you STILL haven't answered the question! You know, it's an important question. Everyone says the reason why what Trump did with Zelensky was b

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THG
Monday, November 11, 2019 12:27 AM

Shoo comrade kiki. I answered your question proving the point and you respond with gibberish. Same as you always do.

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Monday, November 11, 2019 12:30 AM

No, you spouted some sort of gibberish about non-existent 'allies', about non-existent extortion threats (with everyone listening in no less !!!), about Russia something or other, and so on.

You failed to answer the question - HOW IS **US** NATIONAL SECURITY THREATENED?


The Less Americans Know About Ukraine, The More They Support Intervening There

Here's a map of Europe and western Russia, with the countries labeled.



I know that most people couldn't find Ukraine without those labels, even more, they probably couldn't find Europe.

But looking at this map, which countries do YOU see are on Ukraine's border that might reasonably be 'threatened'? Because I strain to see the Ukrainian-US border anywhere. In fact, there's 4,864 mi between Washington DC, and Kiev.

Even more, I find no US allies on Ukraine's border. I see Moldova, Hungary, Romania, Slovakia, Poland, and Belarus. They're NATO members, but not US allies.

EVEN IF - and I see no reason to imagine that would happen - Russia were to take over Ukraine, I fail to see how that could pose a security risk TO THE US.

So, you STILL haven't answered the question! You know, it's an important question. Everyone says the reason why what Trump did with Zelensky was bad was because it jeopardized US national security. They weren't talking about Belarus's national security, or Moldova's national security. They claimed to be talking about the US's national security. Yanno, MY country - a country whose interests I take seriously. (I don't know which country has YOUR loyalties, but it's clearly NOT the US. The US is a tool to you. You're hoping WE will sacrifice some part of ourselves for YOUR interests.)

So here is my question again, in gold ... just so you don't miss it: - explain to me EXACTLY how US national security is threatened by anything that happens in Ukraine.

IN DETAIL.


A billion flies eat shit.


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THG
Monday, November 11, 2019 12:39 AM

kiki I told you when you troll me in my own link I'll respond to you in the garden thread. So, that's where you can read my post.

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Monday, November 11, 2019 12:53 AM

I can't help it if you can't answer a simple question, THUGGER - and have to resort to trolling, propaganda, lies, libel, and threats.

It's a really simple question. It's a question you SHOULD be able to answer if you sincerely think US NATIONAL SECURITY is threatened by anything that happens in Ukraine.

Signy and I both have already exposed your propaganda talking points as being false.

So I need to ask the question - AGAIN - because you can't seem to answer it.

Everyone says the reason why what Trump did with Zelensky was bad was because it jeopardized US national security. They weren't talking about Belarus's national security, or Moldova's national security. They claimed to be talking about the US's national security.

Yanno, the US is MY country - a country whose interests I take seriously. (I don't know which country has YOUR loyalties, but it's clearly NOT the US. The US is a tool to you. You're hoping WE will sacrifice some part of ourselves for YOUR interests.)

So here is my question again, in gold ... just so you don't miss it: - explain to me EXACTLY how US national security is threatened by anything that happens in Ukraine.

IN DETAIL.


A billion flies eat shit.



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Monday, November 11, 2019 1:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I can't help it if you can't answer a simple question, THUGGER - and have to resort to trolling, propaganda, lies, libel, and threats.

It's a really simple question. It's a question you SHOULD be able to answer if you sincerely think US NATIONAL SECURITY is threatened by anything that happens in Ukraine.

Signy and I both have already exposed your propaganda talking points as being false.

So I need to ask the question - AGAIN - because you can't seem to answer it.

Everyone says the reason why what Trump did with Zelensky was bad was because it jeopardized US national security. They weren't talking about Belarus's national security, or Moldova's national security. They claimed to be talking about the US's national security.

Yanno, the US is MY country - a country whose interests I take seriously. (I don't know which country has YOUR loyalties, but it's clearly NOT the US. The US is a tool to you. You're hoping WE will sacrifice some part of ourselves for YOUR interests.)

So here is my question again, in gold ... just so you don't miss it: - explain to me EXACTLY how US national security is threatened by anything that happens in Ukraine.

IN DETAIL.
A billion flies eat shit.





It proves our president will sell US “treasure” (javelins) for his personal gain (dirt on a political rival) - duh.
Amuse us with your weak reply.

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Monday, November 11, 2019 1:27 AM

"It proves our president will sell US “treasure” (javelins) for his personal gain (dirt on a political rival) - duh."

Only in your craziest dreams. Because nothing that Trump (supposedly) said (according to second-hand gossip) actually came true.

Meanwhile, all this flap is claimed to be about Trump jeopardizing US national security.

Since THUGGER can't seem to cough up an answer involving US national security in Ukraine, maybe YOU can.

A billion flies eat shit.

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THG
Monday, November 11, 2019 1:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I can't help it if you can't answer a simple question, THUGGER - and have to resort to trolling, propaganda, lies, libel, and threats.

It's a really simple question. It's a question you SHOULD be able to answer if you sincerely think US NATIONAL SECURITY is threatened by anything that happens in Ukraine.

Signy and I both have already exposed your propaganda talking points as being false.

So I need to ask the question - AGAIN - because you can't seem to answer it.

Everyone says the reason why what Trump did with Zelensky was bad was because it jeopardized US national security. They weren't talking about Belarus's national security, or Moldova's national security. They claimed to be talking about the US's national security.

Yanno, the US is MY country - a country whose interests I take seriously. (I don't know which country has YOUR loyalties, but it's clearly NOT the US. The US is a tool to you. You're hoping WE will sacrifice some part of ourselves for YOUR interests.)

So here is my question again, in gold ... just so you don't miss it: - explain to me EXACTLY how US national security is threatened by anything that happens in Ukraine.

IN DETAIL.
A billion flies eat shit.





It proves our president will sell US “treasure” (javelins) for his personal gain (dirt on a political rival) - duh.
Amuse us with your weak reply.


I post what’s being reported on in the news and kiki calls it propaganda. She still doesn’t realize it’s different in America than it is in Russia. Our mainstream media isn't propaganda. And it shouldn't be seen as such. Unless of course you're nuts.


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Monday, November 11, 2019 2:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
"It proves our president will sell US “treasure” (javelins) for his personal gain (dirt on a political rival) - duh."

Only in your craziest dreams. Because nothing that Trump (supposedly) said (according to second-hand gossip) actually came true.

Meanwhile, all this flap is claimed to be about Trump jeopardizing US national security.

Since THUGGER can't seem to cough up an answer involving US national security in Ukraine, maybe YOU can.

“We have enough evidence from the depositions that we’ve done to warrant bringing this forward. Evidence of an extortion scheme, using taxpayer dollars to ask a foreign government to investigate the president’s opponent.

“But it’s important that these witnesses raise their right hands and take questions from both Republicans and Democrats. The president is going to get that.”

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-impeachmen
t-inquiry-ukraine-extortion-eric-swalwell-latest-a9197506.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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