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Exclusive: Ukraine to fire prosecutor who discussed Bidens with Giuliani - source
KIEV (Reuters) - Ukraine plans to fire the prosecutor who led investigations into the firm where Joe Biden's son served on the board, a central figure in the activity at the heart of impeachment proceedings against U.S. President Donald Trump, a source told Reuters.
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New Poll Shows Democratic Presidential Candidates Have Been Living in a Fantasy World
In 2018, Democratic candidates waded into hostile territory and flipped 40 House districts by avoiding controversial positions, and focusing obsessively on Republican weaknesses.
The Democratic presidential field has largely abandoned that model.
Working from the premise that the country largely agrees with them on everything, or that agreeing with the majority of voters on issues is not necessary to win, the campaign has proceeded in blissful unawareness of the extremely high chance that Trump will win again.
More at www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2019/11/the-2020-election-is-still-wide
-open/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Ya don't say, huh?
Don't believe it every time I've said it, but Mother Jones tells you that it's true so I guess it's true now.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:There is a huge difference between Trump having approximately 50/50 chance of winning, which I always believed, and Trump being approximately 100% certain to win, which seems to be the default belief/position of Trump lovers.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Ya don't say, huh?
Don't believe it every time I've said it, but Mother Jones tells you that it's true so I guess it's true now.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Why does Trump have a 50/50 chance? Because 50% of voters are stupider than average. If you are salesman, as Trump is, you don't need to persuade everybody since defrauding the dumbest 50% will make you fabulously wealthy.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:There is a huge difference between Trump having approximately 50/50 chance of winning, which I always believed, and Trump being approximately 100% certain to win, which seems to be the default belief/position of Trump lovers.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Ya don't say, huh?
Don't believe it every time I've said it, but Mother Jones tells you that it's true so I guess it's true now.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Why does Trump have a 50/50 chance? Because 50% of voters are stupider than average. If you are salesman, as Trump is, you don't need to persuade everybody since defrauding the dumbest 50% will make you fabulously wealthy.
I believe you're paraphrasing PT Barnum Second. There's a sucker born every minute.
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Quote:I will give you another: Only suckers believe Medicare 4 All could possibly become law.
Originally posted by THG:
I believe you're paraphrasing PT Barnum Second. There's a sucker born every minute.
Elizabeth Warren announced her Medicare for All plan last week but it doesn’t matter. For starters, to put the plan in place she’d need to win the presidency and the Senate, and that’s a tough task. Then we’d need to eliminate the filibuster, which is very, very unlikely since a few Democrats have already said they wouldn’t join in.
But suppose we miraculously do all that. Actual legislation depends mostly on the Senate, not on President Warren or Speaker Pelosi. This means that health care legislation can’t be more progressive than the 50th most liberal senator, which is likely to be someone like Joe Manchin of W Virginia or Doug Jones of Alabama. So even in the best case we won’t get the M4A plan that Warren is campaigning on. Not even close.
What this means is that these M4A plans shouldn’t be treated like real legislation to be scored by the Congressional Budget Office. Rather, they should be treated like Republican tax cut proposals. Nobody bothers to analyze them (except for liberal think tanks, natch) because no one takes them seriously. They are meant merely as markers to show where your heart is. A weak plan shows that you’re a RINO. A big tax cut shows you’re a strong conservative. And a ridiculous plan shows that you’re a lunatic—which might or might not be a good thing depending on the mood of the electorate.
So forget the details. Warren and Sanders are deliberately selling themselves as lunatics. Their plans mean nothing except that they are true blue liberals. Don’t try to read any more than that into them. Biden and Buttigieg and Booker are demonstrating that they’re part of the mainstream Obama wing of the party. And Amy Klobuchar is demonstrating her DINO credentials as a member of the Minnesota Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party, Minnesota's loose affiliate of the Democratic Party.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Democratic%E2%80%93Farmer%E2%8
0%93Labor_Party
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Donald Trump lost Kentucky for the Republicans – the 2020 presidential election is now the Democrats' to lose
If past experience is anything to go by, Donald Trump will shortly be tweeting from the comfort of his bathroom to the effect that the soon-to-be-former Governor Matt Bevin of Kentucky is a stone cold loser that Trump has never actually met – and who, even if he had met him, would not have been impressed. This, of course, despite the fact that Trump himself turned up in Kentucky on the eve of a rally for his Republican colleague and declared to the audience that seeing Bevin lose to the Democrats “sends a really bad message”, pleading with his supporters, “you can’t let that happen to me!”
Well, they did.
www.independent.co.uk/voices/trump-kentucky-virginia-democrats-win-rep
ublicans-2020-a9187161.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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If you think Trump has few real accomplishments, mostly fake or overblown ones, you forgot Judgeship appointments:
As of Nov 6th, President Donald J. Trump has appointed—and gotten confirmed—158 life-tenured federal judges:
President Trump’s nominees alone fill one-quarter of the seats on our nation’s Circuit Courts of Appeals.
His nominees fill two of the nine powerful seats on America’s Supreme Court.
He has seen more Circuit Court judges confirmed by this point in his presidency than any past president in United States history.
The average age of these new circuit judges is less than 50 years old—a full 10 years younger than the average age of former President Obama’s circuit nominees. That fact is important. President Trump understands that appointing good, fair judges is one of the most important legacies a President can leave. And thanks to the extraordinary number of young, talented judges he’s selected, that legacy is likely to last for decades to come.
www.whitehouse.gov/1600daily/
www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trump-appoi
nting-historic-number-federal-judges-uphold-constitution-written/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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lol
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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I will give you another: Only suckers believe Medicare 4 All could possibly become law.
Elizabeth Warren announced her Medicare for All plan last week but it doesn’t matter. For starters, to put the plan in place she’d need to win the presidency and the Senate, and that’s a tough task. Then we’d need to eliminate the filibuster, which is very, very unlikely since a few Democrats have already said they wouldn’t join in.
But suppose we miraculously do all that. Actual legislation depends mostly on the Senate, not on President Warren or Speaker Pelosi. This means that health care legislation can’t be more progressive than the 50th most liberal senator, which is likely to be someone like Joe Manchin of W Virginia or Doug Jones of Alabama. So even in the best case we won’t get the M4A plan that Warren is campaigning on. Not even close.
What this means is that these M4A plans shouldn’t be treated like real legislation to be scored by the Congressional Budget Office. Rather, they should be treated like Republican tax cut proposals. Nobody bothers to analyze them (except for liberal think tanks, natch) because no one takes them seriously. They are meant merely as markers to show where your heart is. A weak plan shows that you’re a RINO. A big tax cut shows you’re a strong conservative. And a ridiculous plan shows that you’re a lunatic—which might or might not be a good thing depending on the mood of the electorate.
So forget the details. Warren and Sanders are deliberately selling themselves as lunatics. Their plans mean nothing except that they are true blue liberals. Don’t try to read any more than that into them. Biden and Buttigieg and Booker are demonstrating that they’re part of the mainstream Obama wing of the party. And Amy Klobuchar is demonstrating her DINO credentials as a member of the Minnesota Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party, Minnesota's loose affiliate of the Democratic Party.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Democratic%E2%80%93Farmer%E2%8
0%93Labor_Party
For once, I agree.
This is exactly why I wasn't too frightened of Trump's domestic proposals ... three branches of government, two legislative houses, all counterbalancing each other as designed by the Framers of the Constitution. Sometimes that leads to gridlock, even when urgent action is needed. But we've been here before and survived as a nation... just consider the War of Independence and how hard it was to raise money to provision the troops!
The idea of Medicare for All has to be won by Senatorial and House candidates, NOT the President of the USA. It needs to be on THEIR platforms and in THEIR campaigns, and it needs to be won state by state, simply by making sense to a lot of people. A President can jawbone the issue but can never push it to the finish line.
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY
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Donald Trump lost Kentucky for the Republicans – the 2020 presidential election is now the Democrats' to lose
If past experience is anything to go by, Donald Trump will shortly be tweeting from the comfort of his bathroom to the effect that the soon-to-be-former Governor Matt Bevin of Kentucky is a stone cold loser that Trump has never actually met – and who, even if he had met him, would not have been impressed. This, of course, despite the fact that Trump himself turned up in Kentucky on the eve of a rally for his Republican colleague and declared to the audience that seeing Bevin lose to the Democrats “sends a really bad message”, pleading with his supporters, “you can’t let that happen to me!”
Well, they did.
www.independent.co.uk/voices/trump-kentucky-virginia-democrats-win-rep
ublicans-2020-a9187161.html
Yep, all true.
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